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    Arizona cop shoots unarmed man saying "Please don't shoot me"

    Mesa Arizona cop Phillip Braisford shot an unarmed Daniel Shaver in the hallway of a hotel.

    Police were called to the hotel after reports of a man pointing a gun outside the window of his hotel room.

    Police made multiple demands for the occupants of the room to come out, they did not respond...likely because they didn't hear.

    The occupants then come out on their own, it appears as if they were leaving. Ordered down on the ground.

    Officers then shout out multiple confusing instructions on what they want him to do. As he crawls towards them he moves his hand towards waistband and the cops light him up.

    Today the officer was found NOT guilty of murder or manslaughter.

    He apparently was fired after the incident because he was using his own (approved) AR-15, however he had the words "You're Fucked" inscribed on the weapon which was against department policy.

    Video footage was just released for the incident.

    Confrontation starts around 12:45 mark in the video.


     
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    Truly nauseating. Probably wouldn't have happened if he were black.

     
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    That's how I would expect they would act during a mass shooting. Just waiting for the prick to give them an excuse.

    But this was definitely overkill and no idea how he gets off with nothing.

    I hope they bankrupt him and his department through lawsuits. But it still won't bring the guy back.

     
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    nauseating, I saw this earlier. And the prick's voice makes me sick the way he talks to the dude on the ground. This is why we need to limit the overreach of the state and makes my libertarian leanings come out in full force. I want law and order, but not if I have to listen, let alone get shot, to some mother fucker like that cop.

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    This is what life has come to for white men today in Trump's America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devidee View Post
    This is what life has come to for white men today in Trump's America.

    We are North America's Palestinians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
    Truly nauseating. Probably wouldn't have happened if he were black.
    If he were black, there would be riots in the streets across the country and Mesa Arizona would be a war zone at this time.

    Cops would be getting shot across the country because of this cops' shooting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ_Chaps View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by devidee View Post
    This is what life has come to for white men today in Trump's America.

    We are North America's Palestinians.
    Exactly.

    Thanks Trump.

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    what a prick. Hope he gets what's coming to him.

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    Terrible on so many levels. Normally these incidents are not black and white but in this case it seems so obvious. Amazing the guy was able to follow as much as he did. I'm sure many people including myself would have fucked up too in that situation.

    anymore info on what precipitated it?

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Daniel_Shaver

    According to a police report, Daniel Shaver, a pest-control worker and resident of Granbury, Texas, had been staying at a Mesa La Quinta Inn on business. He invited two acquaintances to his room for drinks. There he showed them a scoped air rifle he was using to exterminate birds inside grocery stores. At one point the gun was pointed outside his hotel window, prompting a witness to notify the front desk; the police were immediately called. Upon arrival, police gave Shaver and his acquaintances detailed orders for various minutes, with frequent admonitions that failing to comply with them would get them shot. Eventually, Shaver was ordered to crawl on the floor towards them. While complying with their request, Shaver, who was intoxicated and could be heard sobbing, begging officers, "Please don't shoot," made a single hand motion, notably distant from his waist. Brailsford yelled at Shaver that if Shaver did anything whatsoever that deviated from his instructions he would shoot him and he probably wouldn’t survive. For unknown reasons Shaver then reached his right hand back towards his waistband again at which point Brailsford can be heard yelling "Don't-" before immediately opening fire with his AR-15 rifle, striking Shaver 5 times and killing him almost instantly. Shaver was unarmed.[1][2]

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    BTW if you read the report he actually inscribed "your fucked" instead of the correct you're fucked.

    Yes the guy was too stupid to put proper grammar...

    EDIt sounds like the grammar comment on wiki is wrong. Pictures seem to suggest it was spelled properly...
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    Listen up white, mex, asian and other peace loving people. Take your bleeding heart and put it in a safety deposit box. Did you do that, ok.

    The survival and quality of life for you and your children depends on not being manipulated.

    *Note- Soros's donations ousted Sherrif Joe. Soros has transferred $17 billion to bribe politicians around the country to accept non white refugees. Is this the new anti white police?

    You have to understand the Culture of Critique, it's a long and tedious read so here's part 1 of 4 of an accurate summary.

    I
    n The Culture of Critique, Kevin MacDonald advances a carefully researched but extremely controversial thesis: that certain 20th century intellectual movements – largely established and led by Jews – have changed European societies in fundamental ways and destroyed the confidence of Western man. He claims that these movements were designed, consciously or unconsciously, to advance Jewish interests even though they were presented to non-Jews as universalistic and even utopian. He concludes that the increasing dominance of these ideas has had profound political and social consequences that benefited Jews but caused great harm to gentile societies. This analysis, which he makes with considerable force, is an unusual indictment of a people generally thought to be more sinned against than sinning.

    The Culture of Critique is the final title in Prof. MacDonald’s massive, three-volume study of Jews and their role in history. The two previous volumes are A People That Shall Dwell Alone and Separation and its Discontents, published by Praeger in 1994 and 1998. The series is written from a sociobiological perspective that views Judaism as a unique survival strategy that helps Jews compete with other ethnic groups. Prof. MacDonald, who is a psychologist at the University of California at Long Beach, explains this perspective in the first volume, which describes Jews as having a very powerful sense of uniqueness that has kept them socially and genetically separate from other peoples. The second volume traces the history of Jewish-gentile relations, and finds the causes of anti-Semitism primarily in the almost invariable commercial and intellectual dominance of gentile societies by Jews and in their refusal to assimilate. The Culture of Critique brings his analysis into the present century, with an account of the Jewish role in the radical critique of traditional culture.

    The intellectual movements Prof. MacDonald discusses in this volume are Marxism, Freudian psychoanalysis, the Frankfurt school of sociology, and Boasian anthropology. Perhaps most relevant from a racial perspective, he also traces the role of Jews in promoting multi-culturalism and Third World immigration. Throughout his analysis Prof. MacDonald reiterates his view that Jews have promoted these movements as Jews and in the interests of Jews, though they have often tried to give the impression that they had no distinctive interests of their own. Therefore Prof. MacDonald’s most profound charge against Jews is not ethnocentrism but dishonesty – that while claiming to be working for the good of mankind they have often worked for their own good and to the detriment of others. While attempting to promote the brotherhood of man by dissolving the ethnic identification of gentiles, Jews have maintained precisely the kind of intense group solidarity they decry as immoral in others.
    Part 2
    Celebrating Diversity
    Prof. MacDonald claims that one of the most consistent ways in which Jews have advanced their interests has been to promote pluralism and diversity – but only for others. Ever since the 19th century, they have led movements that tried to discredit the traditional foundations of gentile society: patriotism, racial loyalty, the Christian basis for morality, social homogeneity, and sexual restraint. At the same time, within their own communities, and with regard to the state of Israel, they have often supported the very institutions they attack in gentile society.

    Why is this in the interests of Jews? Because the parochial group loyalty characteristic of Jews attracts far less attention in a society that does not have a cohesive racial and cultural core. The Jewish determination not to assimilate fully, which accounts for their survival as a people for thousands for years – even without a country – has invariably attracted unpleasant and even murderous scrutiny in nations with well -defined national identities. In Prof. MacDonald’s view it is therefore in the interest of Jews to dilute and weaken the identity of any people among whom they live. Jewish identity can flower in safety only when gentile identity is weak.

    Prof. MacDonald quotes a remarkable passage from Charles Silberman: “American Jews are committed to cultural tolerance because of their belief – one firmly rooted in history – that Jews are safe only in a society acceptant of a wide range of attitudes and behaviors, as well as a diversity of religious and ethnic groups. It is this belief, for example, not approval of homosexuality, that leads an overwhelming majority of American Jews to endorse ‘gay rights’ and to take a liberal stance on most other so-called ‘social’ issues.”

    He is saying, in effect, that when Jews make the diversity-is-our-strength argument it is in support of their real goal of diluting a society’s homogeneity so that Jews will feel safe. They are couching a Jewish agenda in terms they think gentiles will accept. Likewise, as the second part of the Silberman quotation suggests, Jews may support deviant movements, not because they think it is good for the country but because it is good for the Jews.

    coming soon - a few hours or tomorrow.

    Part 2 continued and part 3 Authoritarian Personalities

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    Quote Originally Posted by AhoosierA View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
    Truly nauseating. Probably wouldn't have happened if he were black.
    If he were black, there would be riots in the streets across the country and Mesa Arizona would be a war zone at this time.

    Cops would be getting shot across the country because of this cops' shooting.
    There should be protests (not riots) and real change regardless of the victim's race. The police acting like they are an occupying army rather than public servants is not acceptable.

     
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    Obviously sad to see...

    It is the old situation where police demand an action that cannot always be complied with given the situation.

    For example as a police offer is stunning you or spraying you they demand you to comply, hhhmmm human reaction is cover up. Impossible act to comply with.

    The guy is obviously some what tipsy and was just going to adjust his waist band as his crack was showing. The cop knew he was a blubbering mess so him not following acts to the teeth was to be some what expected and he let the act before it slide which was much worse. Which leads me to believe he acted out of anger when firing.

    Bottom line, avoid the police at all costs.

    Really sad situation because now a slightly drunk man is dead and a cop gets to kill another person and get away with it.

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    Did y'all see the one where the cop shot a dudes dog and then demanded the owner cut off the dogs head or go to jail?

    http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cop...r-be-arrested/

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brittney Griner's Clit View Post
    Did y'all see the one where the cop shot a dudes dog and then demanded the owner cut off the dogs head or go to jail?

    http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cop...r-be-arrested/


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    Arizona is a fucked up state which has always been way too pro-police, which allowed assholes like Joe Arpaio to flourish for so long.

    I am generally pro-police and am much more forgiving of them in so-called "excessive force" or "brutality" situations, especially when they're dealing with career violent criminals or street thugs (think Michael Brown).

    However, it sickens me when truly horrible/abusive cops are somehow acquitted in obvious abuse of power situations, and those acquitting them find every reason they can to explain completely reprehensible behavior.

    There needs to be a change in police culture to where the bad apples are rooted out before things like this happens. The old "take care of our own" model, common in so many police departments, does not work, and leads to countless abuses. We are only becoming aware of this now because of body cameras and people with cell phone cameras.

    If this occurred 10 years ago, the officer would have simply claimed, "Suspect would not listen to instructions, reached to waistband despite repeated warnings not to", and between that and the fact that there really was a gun in the room, the officer would have never even been charged. It would have been labeled a good shooting.

    When guys like this are not convicted, it gives ammunition to the irrationally anti-police crowd to continue to vilify police as a whole, and it becomes much difficult to argue back against them.

    After a 23-year-decline in violent crime between 1990 and 2013, we've seen it rise every year since, and I believe much of it comes from disrespect toward police and the general fear by most police to do their jobs effectively. They're constantly worried about false accusations of "racism" or "brutality".

    When we see actual cases of brutality go unpunished, it makes the situation get that much worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    There needs to be a change in police culture to where the bad apples are rooted out before things like this happens. The old "take care of our own" model, common in so many police departments, does not work, and leads to countless abuses. We are only becoming aware of this now because of body cameras and people with cell phone cameras.
    niggas been seeing it for a while

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlunderMaker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    There needs to be a change in police culture to where the bad apples are rooted out before things like this happens. The old "take care of our own" model, common in so many police departments, does not work, and leads to countless abuses. We are only becoming aware of this now because of body cameras and people with cell phone cameras.
    niggas been seeing it for a while
    Which demographic do cops kill the most of every single year?

    White men.

    How long will this blatant racism be allowed to continue?
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