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    Quote Originally Posted by Scandinavian Bob View Post
    I just added up my NY Jet's debacle last year. This was four guys meeting in NYC for other reasons than just football, so I will strip out the cost of airfare and hotels:

    Ticket: $160
    Cost of Car to take us to the game: My portion $50
    Two Rounds of Beers for 4 guys: $64
    Cost of Car to take us from the game: My portion $50
    Other guys bought food and more beers
    Misery Index $1,000

    So my actual cost out of pocket was $324. Factor in my misery index @ $250 a hour for 4 hours you are looking at $1,324. It was a fucking terrible experience, I hated every minute of it. We were back at the hotel bar that evening and we were trying to convince ourselves what a great time we had, but it sucked at we all knew it. Factor in we all had 6am flights the next morning from Laguardia, we just went to our rooms like at 8pm totally defeated.

    I'll never go to n NFL game again, even if someone gave me Superbowl tickets. I hate the NFL. For the record, I went to several MLB games and had a great time relaxing in the upper deck with nobody around me, so its not like I have some stadium anxiety issues.
    Is $250/hour your going rate?

    Or that's just the rate you're assigning for hours spent doing something terrible?

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    Yeah. Football is by far my favorite sport to watch on TV and the one I would least want to go to in person. Like you said, too much hassle and too expensive.

    Interestingly, the sport I enjoy going to the most, but would never watch a second of on TV, is MLS soccer. Been to a few Galaxy games in Carson. Compared to all the hassle of getting in and out of the Rose Bowl (UCLA), Coliseum (USC, old Raiders, Rams now) and Staple Center (Lakers, Clippers) it is so much easier.

    Also, concessions are cheaper, lines are shorter, seats better, just everything is better. Plus most of the games are at night. Another thing that sucks about NFL games in Los Angeles is most of them are at 1 pm so you are always sitting in the blistering sun. Even in December there is a good chance you are sitting directly in the Sun at 70 deg F, which is better than 95 deg in September, but still can wear on you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by verminaard View Post
    Plus most of the games are at night. Another thing that sucks about NFL games in Los Angeles is most of them are at 1 pm so you are always sitting in the blistering sun. Even in December there is a good chance you are sitting directly in the Sun at 70 deg F, which is better than 95 deg in September, but still can wear on you.
    I went to a NFL game in Tampa in September a few years ago. In addition to 90 degree heat, we had the bonus of 90% humidity and getting rained on. I noticed the next day my legs were covered with mosquito bites, so I also was at risk of a Hepatitis infection.

    The only way I would ever go to an NFL game again is if I was in a temperature controlled suite with limo service to and from the game. Otherwise, I am busy and can't make it.

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    I'm a middle aged upper middle class Patriots fan living in South Florida who just so happens made a mortgage payment and still has $1000 burning a hole in my pocket from this past weekends slate. I was a 10 year season ticket holder before I moved. Buddy of mine called me with a deal of a lifetime 4 15th row seats for Monday nights dolphins/patriots game on the 20 .... for the unbelievable price of only $650. I turned him down flat on the spot.

    I'd rather go pick up my dad and get some beer and wings down the street for $50 and be home at halftime after the blowout.

    If they can't get my ass to this game then I'm not sure who is going.

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    I'm still laughing at misery index

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    If the going misery rate is $250 an hour, considering what you've laid on these forums for the last 10+ years, it's time for us to cash in.


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    Quote Originally Posted by verminaard View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SetofKs View Post

    The players are just stupid and don't give a fuck because they already have huge contracts. For example, they are insulting rednecks by kneeling during the anthem, when like 80% of nfl fans are rednecks.
    Football players? This couldn't be further from the truth except for quarterbacks IMO. Most players don't get payed until their second contract, and most of them wash out before they even get there. That is why the owners have so much leverage in negotiating terms. Because the way salaries are structured most of the players in the league can't afford to strike. There careers are too short and they don't make enough.

    I think most of the players are so blatantly racist against white people when they comment on social issues because they are told from a very young age that is what they are supposed to say, and if they don't they are Oreos and selling out. I don't even really think it is sincere. A lot of it is just giving in to peer pressure.

    And yeah, I personally can't get enough NFL football. I love the Thursday games, I love the London games, I love the December Saturday games, etc. etc., but it is all tied to gambling. If there was just a random Sunday night game I had no action on (which is pretty much impossible for me) unless it was actually a good game (how often does that happen) I probably wouldn't be too interested.
    Dude?

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    Pro sports in general are in trouble because $9/month ESPN fees are disappearing as people cut ties with their cable/satellite providers which drastically limits how much they can bid on tv contracts.

    NFL just happens to be in the worst shape for all the reasons listed above and more.

    Football is actually already dead. The HS my wife graduated from has 2,000 kids and couldn’t field a football team this year. They had something like 17 kids go out, in a school with 700 black kids.

    Pro Sports are dying in the traditional sense, players will be paid less over the next decade not more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post
    I'm a middle aged upper middle class Patriots fan living in South Florida who just so happens made a mortgage payment and still has $1000 burning a hole in my pocket from this past weekends slate. I was a 10 year season ticket holder before I moved. Buddy of mine called me with a deal of a lifetime 4 15th row seats for Monday nights dolphins/patriots game on the 20 .... for the unbelievable price of only $650. I turned him down flat on the spot.

    I'd rather go pick up my dad and get some beer and wings down the street for $50 and be home at halftime after the blowout.

    If they can't get my ass to this game then I'm not sure who is going.
    Yah I used to play a home game with some of the vikings. Every Monday night during the season they'd play a 5-10 plo8 game, and just loved to go all in. My buddy from college was on the practice squad for 2 years so he got me in. Those guys offered me free tickets all the time and I had to turn them down. Much more fun to watch the game at yer own house, with beers in the fridge that you don't have pay $10 for. Much better view of the game on tv too. The Metrodome was especially terrible though. I would like to go to a game at their new stadium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SetofKs View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post
    I'm a middle aged upper middle class Patriots fan living in South Florida who just so happens made a mortgage payment and still has $1000 burning a hole in my pocket from this past weekends slate. I was a 10 year season ticket holder before I moved. Buddy of mine called me with a deal of a lifetime 4 15th row seats for Monday nights dolphins/patriots game on the 20 .... for the unbelievable price of only $650. I turned him down flat on the spot.

    I'd rather go pick up my dad and get some beer and wings down the street for $50 and be home at halftime after the blowout.

    If they can't get my ass to this game then I'm not sure who is going.
    Yah I used to play a home game with some of the vikings. Every Monday night during the season they'd play a 5-10 plo8 game, and just loved to go all in. My buddy from college was on the practice squad for 2 years so he got me in. Those guys offered me free tickets all the time and I had to turn them down. Much more fun to watch the game at yer own house, with beers in the fridge that you don't have pay $10 for. Much better view of the game on tv too. The Metrodome was especially terrible though. I would like to go to a game at their new stadium.


    holy fuck ive never heard of anybody voluntarily choosing PLO8 as a game to play...how the hell did they land on that one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by simpdog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Scandinavian Bob View Post
    I just added up my NY Jet's debacle last year. This was four guys meeting in NYC for other reasons than just football, so I will strip out the cost of airfare and hotels:

    Ticket: $160
    Cost of Car to take us to the game: My portion $50
    Two Rounds of Beers for 4 guys: $64
    Cost of Car to take us from the game: My portion $50
    Other guys bought food and more beers
    Misery Index $1,000

    So my actual cost out of pocket was $324. Factor in my misery index @ $250 a hour for 4 hours you are looking at $1,324. It was a fucking terrible experience, I hated every minute of it. We were back at the hotel bar that evening and we were trying to convince ourselves what a great time we had, but it sucked at we all knew it. Factor in we all had 6am flights the next morning from Laguardia, we just went to our rooms like at 8pm totally defeated.

    I'll never go to n NFL game again, even if someone gave me Superbowl tickets. I hate the NFL. For the record, I went to several MLB games and had a great time relaxing in the upper deck with nobody around me, so its not like I have some stadium anxiety issues.
    Is $250/hour your going rate?

    Or that's just the rate you're assigning for hours spent doing something terrible?
    Either way, if enduring faggotry is worth money, he owes this forum more than his fake $300K liquid could cover.

     
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    You made a great post Bob.

    Apologies and warning for the TLDR. This whole subject just lights my fuse.

    The Supreme Court will begin listening to oral arguments today on PASPA. Christie vs NCAA

    God bless the fat fuck.

    This issue dovetails with 2 of my favorite topics on this board.

    1. Las Vegas will fail to be unique in the coming years. Corollary: big casinos are stupid. Witness Caesars & chafedpenid
    2. Druff’s “Light Regulation” is a childlike dream that ends in legislative greed and mismanagement. Witness Pennsylvania Poker

    Most important is my core belief that we are living in the golden age of wagering. Be careful what you wish for.

    The status quo is incredibly lucrative for the NFL and its team owners. The league is first among non-equals. First in revenues. First in television ratings. First in team valuations. First in the underlying value of its broadcast agreements. Illegal wagering on sides works. Fantasy was a bolt on with nice additional revenue.

    Yes, the NFL is fail. The rules changes that increased scoring for short term entertainment resulted in a ridiculous mismatch amongst QB’s and receivers from team to team. An unintended consequence were the endless flags, replays and awfulness.

    If you haven’t been betting NFL favorites you need to re-evaluate your life skills. The mismatch of these awful games is your friend. Admittedly being compelled to watch this shit after placing a bet is a hard price to pay. How you reconcile squandering your short ass life watching the NFL versus the monetary reward is a personal matter.

    Can Congress dictate to states what their own laws must be? The Supreme Court’s decision will have wide-ranging implications for federalism.

    For example:
    The federal Brady Act required local law-enforcement officers to perform background checks for prospective gun sales.

    Similarly, PASPA was a federal statute that required state enforcement and affirmatively enact policies set by Congress.

    PASPA is a unique statute in two significant respects: It regulates states as states (and discriminates among them - Nevada is exempt), and it gives states no option to cede the issue of sports betting to federal enforcement.

    The grounds on which Christie v. NCAA made its way to the highest court in the land are of particular note, and the way the court rules could affect everything from legalized marijuana, to firearm laws, to immigration issues and more.

    This is why 4 Supreme Court justices agreed to hear the case despite EVERY lower court decision deciding against the states.

    If the Supreme Court rules in favor of the NCAA, the status quo will remain. But the fact the court is hearing the case despite no split in the lower courts and against the Solicitor General’s recommendation makes that seem unlikely. Additionally, the Court reversed 83 percent of the time when reviewing federal court of appeals decisions last year. That points to at least some measure of reversal.

    So yeah, I expect a reversal. However, you should be prepared to see your offshore book get blocked or voluntarily leave your state. You can also kiss your dime lines goodbye as states and the leagues monetize & tax the living shit outta your wager.

    This already is TLDR so I won’t get into the fucking NCAA striving to protect the sanctity and purity of amateur athletics. NCAA hypocrisy is low hanging lulz.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by GambleBotsChafedPenis View Post
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    Yah I used to play a home game with some of the vikings. Every Monday night during the season they'd play a 5-10 plo8 game, and just loved to go all in. My buddy from college was on the practice squad for 2 years so he got me in. Those guys offered me free tickets all the time and I had to turn them down. Much more fun to watch the game at yer own house, with beers in the fridge that you don't have pay $10 for. Much better view of the game on tv too. The Metrodome was especially terrible though. I would like to go to a game at their new stadium.


    holy fuck ive never heard of anybody voluntarily choosing PLO8 as a game to play...how the hell did they land on that one?
    no idea. that was in like 2005 2006. nobody was playing plo8 then so we were all awful. They loved to get em in with just the nut high though without the redraw. Interesting game though. No huge names played, but some starters did. Twan Winfield was the biggest name. He was a poker junky tho who played at canterbury all the time in the offseason. They couldn't play there during the season. Interesting mix of starters, reserves, practice squad, and once even the PA announcer showed up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SetofKs View Post
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    holy fuck ive never heard of anybody voluntarily choosing PLO8 as a game to play...how the hell did they land on that one?
    no idea. that was in like 2005 2006. nobody was playing plo8 then so we were all awful. They loved to get em in with just the nut high though without the redraw. Interesting game though. No huge names played, but some starters did. Twan Winfield was the biggest name. He was a poker junky tho who played at canterbury all the time in the offseason. They couldn't play there during the season. Interesting mix of starters, reserves, practice squad, and once even the PA announcer showed up.
    its 2017 and people still don't know how to play PLO8...been doing this for 10+ years and people are still shit at it...

    that's pretty awesome to be able to get into a game like that...love to hear those stories that I'm sure were told around the table...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GambleBotsChafedPenis View Post
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    no idea. that was in like 2005 2006. nobody was playing plo8 then so we were all awful. They loved to get em in with just the nut high though without the redraw. Interesting game though. No huge names played, but some starters did. Twan Winfield was the biggest name. He was a poker junky tho who played at canterbury all the time in the offseason. They couldn't play there during the season. Interesting mix of starters, reserves, practice squad, and once even the PA announcer showed up.
    its 2017 and people still don't know how to play PLO8...been doing this for 10+ years and people are still shit at it...

    that's pretty awesome to be able to get into a game like that...love to hear those stories that I'm sure were told around the table...
    I remember that was when rumors were going around that Moss going to be traded. I asked if that rumor was true, they said "hell no. why would we do that? makes no sense to trade him"..... Guess they didn't factor in that Red McCombs was about to sell the team, and if he traded Moss, he wouldn't have to pay him a $10million dollar bonus that was about to be owed. So they traded the 2nd best WR of all time, who wasn't quite in his prime yet, for Napoleon Harris, and a draft pick that turned into Troy Williamson, one of the biggest busts in franchise history.

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    And yah, from what i hear PLO8 is where the money is at right now . I'm still bad at it though

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    This thread faggot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacosta24 View Post
    This thread faggot.
    its actually one of the best threads since Katie was ran off the forums. We need to find a way to get her back. This place has been god awful without her.

     
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    Are the stadiums really half empty though? Whenever the anti-kneel peple post their stadium half empty porn around the internet it always mysteriously appears to be way before the game starts or halftI'm as I never see any players on the field.

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