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    Quote Originally Posted by verminaard View Post
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    Mix in a little fact with a load of crap, and arrive at all sorts of down the rabbit hole type assumptions.

    Truths like society needs an enemy, that's a half baked concept that can be both true and false... sure it can rally people.

    Anything that makes Trump stronger would be bandied about ad-nauseam... huge hole.

    Just conjecture and no real point. Other then to sound clever.

    How much do they pay you?
    Have you reported to your supervisors that you're not doing real well at creating a credible persona?
    Currently no one is paying me. But if anyone is interested just PM me and see if we can agree to something.
    Would you do it at cost?
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    Quote Originally Posted by verminaard View Post
    The MSM does not talk about military spending at all. I think they are worried talking about military spending would actually cause people to support Trump more. For good or bad, most people are actually reassured by knowing we spend a lot of $$ on our military, whether this is justified or not. It probably has to do with human psychology from evolutionary times, where we equate being better armed to safer, although that may not be the case in our modern society.

    For example, if the media actually talked bout these supersonic missiles, then Trump would respond we are spending even more on technology to protect us from these missiles, and his popularity would increase. So the media just won't talk about it at all. Nothing causes a society to support a current leader more than rallying around an external military threat, so the MSM has to be careful and doesn't really touch military issues at all, unless it is to report stuff that makes our military look incompetent, such as plane crashes or shootings.
    Without the obvious conjecture and half baked thought process, what you trying to say?

    No amount of lipstick makes Trump look good on this. Both parties were doing the same shit for years.

    Keep your battle fleets out of my waters motherfuckers. How do you put an entertaining spin on that?

    Could always blame Reagan, missile defense was his pet project.

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    you're more consumed with accumulating wealth than achieving spiritual enlightenment

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    Here's one of the more ridiculous rumors I've ran across, Bill Gates is Jewish.
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    Oh god dammit he is lol. He's almost as bad as Soros on immigration and always pushing for more H1B visas. He hired Jack Abramoff to lobby for more H1B's and he's always fucking around with some projects in Israel, ntm trying to save Africans and bring em here, so yea I thought that was amusing.
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    Another gas attack in Syria, and of course they are blaming the evil ruler.

    Happened in a region that was strongly held by terrorists and rebels.
    Thankfully many of the locals had recently been allowed to leave.
    Another gas attack on a region the rebels are about to lose, I see a pattern.

    The slant on Syria we're being fed is so far off the mark. Rebels have been repeatedly using gas against government forces and this isn't reported.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salty_Aus View Post
    Another gas attack in Syria, and of course they are blaming the evil ruler.

    Happened in a region that was strongly held by terrorists and rebels.
    Thankfully many of the locals had recently been allowed to leave.
    Another gas attack on a region the rebels are about to lose, I see a pattern.

    The slant on Syria we're being fed is so far off the mark. Rebels have been repeatedly using gas against government forces and this isn't reported.
    Yeah. When it comes to the Muslim world there really isn't any good guys. It is normally just bad guy versus bad guy. But we (the media mainly) loves good versus evil grand narratives so they/we choose a side that fits our geopolitical interests to support and pretends they are good guys.

    Also, when talking about conflicts involving the Muslim world I think it is important to realize they don't have the same concept of civilians as we do. Their mindset is just us versus them, and everyone is fair game including women, children, etc. It isn't that they don't have rules of warfare, their rules are just different then ours. That is why you see so many bombings of mosques/churches and attacks on women and children, and even Hamas using Palestinian women and children as human shields. It is just a different mindset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by verminaard View Post
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    Another gas attack in Syria, and of course they are blaming the evil ruler.

    Happened in a region that was strongly held by terrorists and rebels.
    Thankfully many of the locals had recently been allowed to leave.
    Another gas attack on a region the rebels are about to lose, I see a pattern.

    The slant on Syria we're being fed is so far off the mark. Rebels have been repeatedly using gas against government forces and this isn't reported.
    Yeah. When it comes to the Muslim world there really isn't any good guys. It is normally just bad guy versus bad guy. But we (the media mainly) loves good versus evil grand narratives so they/we choose a side that fits our geopolitical interests to support and pretends they are good guys.

    Also, when talking about conflicts involving the Muslim world I think it is important to realize they don't have the same concept of civilians as we do. Their mindset is just us versus them, and everyone is fair game including women, children, etc. It isn't that they don't have rules of warfare, their rules are just different then ours. That is why you see so many bombings of mosques/churches and attacks on women and children, and even Hamas using Palestinian women and children as human shields. It is just a different mindset.
    This conflict is being presented as a civil war, and this is not really true. Sure the rebels who are ex Syrian defense, but what about all the outside fighters. No terrorist group should ever be considered moderate... and assisted by your government.
    Sovereign country defending itself from mostly outside influences is much more accurate.
    I heard whispers Israel were giving medical aid to Al Qaeda terrorists who were injured fighting in Syria, and other forms of assistance. Wouldn't surprise me as you yanks surely are.

    Arabs are very passionate, and not so forgiving. They excite easily.

    Yup lots of bad shit on both sides.
    War sucks.

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    The joos are begging the US to attack Syria.

    No white person should die for Israel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devidee View Post
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    I agree with you guys. That being said it is interesting how you guys can recognize this nonsense but eat all the anti-Israel propaganda hook, line and sinker. Neither Syria or Israel is half as bad as they are portrayed by the media in bed with the other side.

    That being said, it might strategically be in our best interests to work against Assad because of his ties to Russia. But probably not. History seems to suggest that in the Middle East when we topple a government (no matter how bad it is) and create a power vacuum whatever takes their place is normally way worse.

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    The other day I asked whether the Palestinians were given decent resettlement opportunities. It's one thing if they're a bunch of hard headed idiots and it's another if they're trapped in Palestine.
    I really hope this isn't the whole story.
    https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/bl...h-rafah-border
     

    Now it appears it's time for America to borrow trillions more and send our sons and daughters to die over some made up bullshit that has nothing to do with us again, who knows we may even get in a nice nuclear exchange. It's one thing if the Jews were really just trying to live in peace and security but that's not what's happening. They are making up lies to start these catastrophic wars and there's plenty of evidence that their plans are much more sinister.

    Do they have that power now? If they do it seems a nuclear exchange w Russia would be ideal.

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    So apparently the Clintons killed JFK Jr.

    (((knew it)))

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    Quote Originally Posted by FPS_Russia View Post
    The other day I asked whether the Palestinians were given decent resettlement opportunities. It's one thing if they're a bunch of hard headed idiots and it's another if they're trapped in Palestine.
    I really hope this isn't the whole story.
    https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/bl...h-rafah-border
     

    Now it appears it's time for America to borrow trillions more and send our sons and daughters to die over some made up bullshit that has nothing to do with us again, who knows we may even get in a nice nuclear exchange. It's one thing if the Jews were really just trying to live in peace and security but that's not what's happening. They are making up lies to start these catastrophic wars and there's plenty of evidence that their plans are much more sinister.

    Do they have that power now? If they do it seems a nuclear exchange w Russia would be ideal.
    Of course they are trapped. Hard-headed narrative is complete nonsense. 99% people would jump at a chance to give their families a better life than what the Palestinians have now. Look at all the other Arab refugees. They aren't any hard headed idiots in Syria, Iraq, Lybia, Jordan, etc. They have emigrated en masse to Turkey and Europe and never looking back.

    The hard-headed freedom fighter narrative is just absurd. They are being kept their for a distinct purpose to destabilize Israel. It really is that simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by verminaard View Post
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    I agree with you guys. That being said it is interesting how you guys can recognize this nonsense but eat all the anti-Israel propaganda hook, line and sinker. Neither Syria or Israel is half as bad as they are portrayed by the media in bed with the other side.

    That being said, it might strategically be in our best interests to work against Assad because of his ties to Russia. But probably not. History seems to suggest that in the Middle East when we topple a government (no matter how bad it is) and create a power vacuum whatever takes their place is normally way worse.
    Truly staggering that the POTUS is already blaming the evil rulers of Syria for this. He knows damn well it's the rebels and terrorists.

    Not so staggering that Hasbara Boy is trying to turn this into another opportunity to praise Israel. And discredit those who refuse to buy pro Israel propaganda.

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    Nah dude it's pretty clear your people enjoy inflicting prolonged campaigns of terror and genocide on defenseless populations, what a bunch of cold blooded savages.

    Anyhow check out how fast this Russian mall fills w smoke wtf. 64 killed, mostly kids.

    Now Trump's Tower is on fire, that's where trumps mafia buddies lived.
    Did trump fuck over Putin? Just remember that mall probably has better wiring than the Russian missile silos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FPS_Russia View Post
    Nah dude it's pretty clear your people enjoy inflicting prolonged campaigns of terror and genocide on defenseless populations, what a bunch of cold blooded savages.

    Anyhow check out how fast this Russian mall fills w smoke wtf. 64 killed, mostly kids.

    Now Trump's Tower is on fire, that's where trumps mafia buddies lived.
    Did trump fuck over Putin? Just remember that mall probably has better wiring than the Russian missile silos.
    I think you might be right, they do seem to enjoy their brutality.

    Not sure what these fires have in common though? Or the relevance.

     
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    Here's another pic of Syria...

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    LULZZZ

    JK

    That's Germany.

     
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    Back to Salisbury.

    They found the smoking gun. *laughs*
    "British intelligence specialists intercepted a secret message bound for Russia on the day former spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter were poisoned.

    Royal Air Force analysts at a UK military base in Cyprus detected a message that read, “the package has been delivered”, on March 4 – the day former Russian spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia were attacked in England."
    https://www.9news.com.au/world/2018/...listening-post

    I dunno about you guys, but in this modern world it's not that hard to get a burner phone. Let alone having the resources of a well funded espionage network behind you... apparently.

    Seems like they're grasping at straws here. This is just "stupid mans news".

    What's the bet this guy says whatever the Brits want him to say now that he's survived. I wonder what he's been doing the last 8 years, doubt he's done anything on the intelligence front, but criminal activities appear much more likely. IMO

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    I don't actually laugh at these but this one is pretty good. I hear parts of phx are starting to look like Somalia, nice...

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