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    What Have We Learned from the Failure of British Socialism?

    Firing Line with William F. Buckley Jr

    Don't expect anyone could bear to watch the full interview but

    the first couple of minutes is worth it. Two ultra conservatives

    trying to one up each other in the most nauseating manner of

    speaking. Never mind the subject matter

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    Firing Line with William F. Buckley Jr. Vietnam

    Now this one you should watch from start to finish

    Noam Chomsky at his peak takes on and defeats the

    ugly right wing patsy Buckley

    go to 15:00 mark if you want to cut to the chase

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    Quote Originally Posted by limitles View Post
    Firing Line with William F. Buckley Jr. Vietnam

    Now this one you should watch from start to finish

    Noam Chomsky at his peak takes on and defeats the

    ugly right wing patsy Buckley

    go to 15:00 mark if you want to cut to the chase

    I've seen this video before and love it. The thing I love most about it is that it reminds me that there used to be a time when people with very different views could sit down and have an intelligent conversation on TV for 15, 30, even 60 minutes without name calling, insulting, threatening and tribal dehumanizing. I wish we could get back to that point.

     
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    Perhaps the most famous debate occurred at Oxford University

    at a time when Martin Luther King was still alive

    James Baldwin vs William Buckley

    sorry I thought I had Buckley and Baldwin

    not to worry just look it up. There's nothing

    Buckley could have said that would have made

    a difference

    it's not even close imo



    So when anyone, tonybagnuts included, tells you they have worked their ass off to get where

    they are today, just realize that many have a much lower starting point if any at all.

     
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    Les, you ever read any Ayn Rand novels? Fountainhead specifically? I think you prolly have, but...

    If you are interested in criticizing the art of your political enemy, Rand's bullshit is basically t-ball for people with brains and consciences. Just compeloing enough to make you finish the work, but hollow enough in spirit that you understand the emptiness of the values of the writer.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowe Diddly View Post
    Les, you ever read any Ayn Rand novels? Fountainhead specifically? I think you prolly have, but...

    If you are interested in criticizing the art of your political enemy, Rand's bullshit is basically t-ball for people with brains and consciences. Just compeloing enough to make you finish the work, but hollow enough in spirit that you understand the emptiness of the values of the writer.
    I know what you speak of but I am not a reader........ADD, dsylexia, I don't know.
    But I know exactly the point you make. It's truly ironic how fate dealt with Rand

    My dear old Dad always said, you get what you deserve in life. This from a boy aged
    14 who's dad died Christmas day

    Oh btw Dad turned out to be a huge succsess
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    In this year 2020 when we still have extreme yet subverted racism, as expressed
    on this forum, all we can do is call it out at each and every moment, call it out.

    Compare it to some miscreant bothering a child of yours. No one would stand for
    it. Most everyone would put their own life on the line to defend against it.

    This is how it should be as racism is the most blatant form of ignorance
    and the most harmful as it affects those not plagued by the ignorance.

    Splitthis hear me now
    You are an ignorant cow

     
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    The best thing we can do as white people to solve racism is to discuss race with other white people while trying really hard to sound smart

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zap_the_Fractions_Giraffe View Post
    The best thing we can do as white people to solve racism is to discuss race with other white people while trying really hard to sound smart
    I don't believe you're white. Maybe off-white, creamy white, but not white white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by limitles View Post
    In this year 2020 when we still have extreme yet subverted racism, as expressed
    on this forum, all we can do is call it out at each and every moment, call it out.

    Compare it to some miscreant bothering a child of yours. No one would stand for
    it. Most everyone would put their own life on the line to defend against it.

    This is how it should be as racism is the most blatant form of ignorance
    and the most harmful as it affects those not plagued by the ignorance.

    Splitthis hear me now
    You are an ignorant cow
    I love people who live in lily white neighborhoods. They watch their bubble vision televisions and think they know what the real world is like.

    Reverse racism is rampant and vicious n-word. Keep living in your bubble.

    Who’s on their high horse?
    Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.

    Ronald Reagan

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    Quote Originally Posted by splitthis View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by limitles View Post
    In this year 2020 when we still have extreme yet subverted racism, as expressed
    on this forum, all we can do is call it out at each and every moment, call it out.

    Compare it to some miscreant bothering a child of yours. No one would stand for
    it. Most everyone would put their own life on the line to defend against it.

    This is how it should be as racism is the most blatant form of ignorance
    and the most harmful as it affects those not plagued by the ignorance.

    Splitthis hear me now
    You are ignorant
    I love people who live in lily white neighborhoods. They watch their bubble vision televisions and think they know what the real world is like.

    Reverse racism is rampant and vicious n-word. Keep living in your bubble.

    Who’s on their high horse?
    I love people who know little of their own history.
    The troubles you encounter today are the makings
    of that history.

    The ones you blame for the decline of your community
    are impoverished first.

    That is seen worldwide.

    p.s. the high horse comment does not fit

    the horse has left the barn
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    Quote Originally Posted by limitles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by splitthis View Post

    I love people who live in lily white neighborhoods. They watch their bubble vision televisions and think they know what the real world is like.

    Reverse racism is rampant and vicious n-word. Keep living in your bubble.

    Who’s on their high horse?
    I love people who know little of their own history.
    The troubles you encounter today are the makings
    of that history.

    The ones you blame for the decline of your community
    are impoverished first.

    That is seen worldwide.

    p.s. the high horse comment does not fit

    the horse has left the barn
    The trouble we see today is not from that far back in history. My Great Grandfather was a high ranking general and when the war hit, he and his son were killed. From castle to homeless. Came here and ate bug soup through the depression and worked her ass off to have a little bit.

    She didn’t sit at home single, have a bunch of kids on the governments dime, raise them to be criminals and cry about how bad the white man is.

    Seriously fuck off, even upstanding hard working blacks hate n-words.
    Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.

    Ronald Reagan

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    Let’s give another example. The Jews were gassed like being stuck in you bathroom after your morning booze shits, and toasted like marshmallows on a campfire. Those that survived didn’t sit and cry about their past, they worked their asses off to own most of this country.

    Boohoo roots. Rooooooottttsssss
    Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.

    Ronald Reagan

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    Quote Originally Posted by splitthis View Post
    Let’s give another example. The Jews were gassed like being stuck in you bathroom after your morning booze shits, and toasted like marshmallows on a campfire. Those that survived didn’t sit and cry about their past, they worked their asses off to own most of this country.

    Boohoo roots. Rooooooottttsssss
    The two examples you gave lasted 4 or 5 years. The plight of blacks in America continues to this day.

    Slavery boo hoo? That's rich

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    Quote Originally Posted by limitles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by splitthis View Post
    Let’s give another example. The Jews were gassed like being stuck in you bathroom after your morning booze shits, and toasted like marshmallows on a campfire. Those that survived didn’t sit and cry about their past, they worked their asses off to own most of this country.

    Boohoo roots. Rooooooottttsssss
    The two examples you gave lasted 4 or 5 years. The plight of blacks in America continues to this day.

    Slavery boo hoo? That's rich
    No, you complaining about the plight of blacks in America is what’s rich. So just shut the fuck up for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by limitles View Post

    The two examples you gave lasted 4 or 5 years. The plight of blacks in America continues to this day.

    Slavery boo hoo? That's rich
    No, you complaining about the plight of blacks in America is what’s rich. So just shut the fuck up for a while.
    Shut up about racism? Wouldn’t racists just love it if that problem
    was never discussed?
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