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    Grammar debate. Very serious.

    Which is correct and why?

    (A) "These Gif things that everyone IS posting about are so much fun..."

    OR

    (B) "These GIF things that everyone ARE posting about are so much fun.

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    Ignoring the fact that you have multiple variables, A is correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnP View Post
    Which is correct and why?

    (A) "These Gif things that everyone IS posting about are so much fun..."

    OR

    (B) "These GIF things that everyone ARE posting about are so much fun.
    they're both wrong, you bastard. GIF needs to be all capitalized or all lowercased like (B) but everyone needs to be followed with "is" like in (A)
    and I know you set this up as a trap, you dirty motherfucker

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by PLOL View Post
    Ignoring the fact that you have multiple variables, A is correct.
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    oh, man. this thread is gonna be good
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    Johnny Manziel will be the 1st pick in the draft. I truly believe not only will Johnny Manziel be rookie of the year, quite possibly he will be MVP as his style will shock defensive coordinators. Manziel may only be 6 feet tall, but he has size 15 feet. And he has HUGE hands. I know some NFL scouts so I know what I am talking about.



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    The subject is "everyone", which is a collective noun. The answer is A.

    https://www.grammarly.com/blog/is-vs-are/

    Is vs. Are with Collective Nouns

    A collective noun refers to a group of people or things that is treated as a single entity in speech. Committee is a collective noun. A committee is made up of multiple people, but the word itself is singular in form. In American English, collective nouns take is. In British English, collective nouns can take is or are.

    * The committee is considering the budget right now.
    * The audience is getting antsy.
    * The couple is moving to California.


    But even in American English, a collective noun can take are when you need to emphasize the individual members of the group.

    * The couple are keeping secrets from each other.
    To figure out what the subject is, just look at the verb (in this case "posting") and ask yourself who or what is doing that.

    You can see that by making GIFs the subject, which is treated like a plural, the answer changes:

    These GIF things that are moving around are so much fun.

     
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      limitles: everyone is not the subject, wrong junior
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    I am 100% aware of "everyone" being a singular collective, and that "is", is almost always correct. But what are the "gif things" doing?

     
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      Crowe Diddly: nothing, because "is" is not an action verb, it is a linking verb

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    Quote Originally Posted by bottomset_69 View Post
    Johnny Manziel will be the 1st pick in the draft. I truly believe not only will Johnny Manziel be rookie of the year, quite possibly he will be MVP as his style will shock defensive coordinators. Manziel may only be 6 feet tall, but he has size 15 feet. And he has HUGE hands. I know some NFL scouts so I know what I am talking about.



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    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnP View Post
    I am 100% aware of "everyone" being a singular collective, and that "is", is almost always correct. But what are the "gif things" doing?
    They're not doing anything because they're not the subject. See my edit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SrslySirius View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnP View Post
    I am 100% aware of "everyone" being a singular collective, and that "is", is almost always correct. But what are the "gif things" doing?
    They're not doing anything because they're not the subject. See my edit.
    These gif things are being posted about? At first I was on your side, but the sentence structure is that of two nouns which is or are would be modifying. And if that is the case, it has to be are in my opinion.

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    really vaughn you should stick to posting on your mintewlips acct

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnP View Post
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    They're not doing anything because they're not the subject. See my edit.
    These gif things are being posted about? At first I was on your side, but the sentence structure is that of two nouns which is or are would be modifying. And if that is the case, it has to be are in my opinion.
    I just edited again because I realize now there are actually two subjects. There are also two state of being verbs, referring to each. But you still work it out the same way.

    Who is posting? Everyone is posting.

    What is so much fun? GIFs are so much fun.

    These GIF things that everyone IS posting about ARE so much fun...

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SrslySirius View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnP View Post

    These gif things are being posted about? At first I was on your side, but the sentence structure is that of two nouns which is or are would be modifying. And if that is the case, it has to be are in my opinion.
    I just edited again because I realize now there are actually two subjects. There are also two state of being verbs, referring to each. But you still work it out the same way.

    Who is posting? Everyone is posting.

    What is so much fun? GIFs are so much fun.

    These GIF things that everyone IS posting about ARE so much fun...
    It can't be both though. If one is plural, they both have to be? I went through this step too.

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    Forget about the sentence as a whole. The only thing that matters is the modifying clause "that everyone IS posting about". In that clause, 'everyone' is the subject. 'Everyone' is a singular pronoun. It gets IS, not ARE.

    Answer is 100% A.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnP View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SrslySirius View Post

    I just edited again because I realize now there are actually two subjects. There are also two state of being verbs, referring to each. But you still work it out the same way.

    Who is posting? Everyone is posting.

    What is so much fun? GIFs are so much fun.

    These GIF things that everyone IS posting about ARE so much fun...
    It can't be both though. If one is plural, they both have to be? I went through this step too.
    Why can't it be both? They're each referring to different things. It's easy to come up with examples like this.

    Bob is a moron Astrologist who believes that stars are sentient.

    Who's a moron Astrologist? Bob is a moron Astrologist.

    What is sentient? Stars are sentient.

    Bob is one person and stars are many.

    If you had to be consistent with these verbs, look at the awful sentences you'd have to choose from:

    Bob are a moron Astrologist who believes that stars are sentient.

    Bob is a moron Astrologist who believes that stars is sentient.

     
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    If you ended the sentence with "...everyone is posting about suck" then what would be your reasoning?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowe Diddly View Post
    Forget about the sentence as a whole. The only thing that matters is the modifying clause "that everyone IS posting about". In that clause, 'everyone' is the subject. 'Everyone' is a singular pronoun. It gets IS, not ARE.

    Answer is 100% A.
    This is oversimplification.

    ...Take this example and consider in the sentence in question that there are two subjects: The dog is being annoying. The cats are being annoying. Everyone is being annoying. -- combined: The dog, the cats, and everyone are being annoying. Do you not see how if you changed ARE to IS it would leave out the other nouns? Are the gif things not being posted about?

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