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His approval rating is still like 80% among Republicans. LolOriginally Posted by simpdog
TRUMP 2024!
True dat.His approval rating is still like 80% among Republicans. Lol
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Well over a year after the FBI began investigating “collusion” between the Trump campaign and Vladimir Putin, Special Counsel Robert Mueller has brought in his first major indictment.
Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort has been charged with a series of crimes dating back years, though none is tied directly to President Donald Trump or 2016.
With a leak to CNN that indictments were coming, Mueller’s office stole the weekend headlines. This blanketed the explosive news on a separate front, as the dots began to be connected on a bipartisan plot to bring down Trump that began two years ago.
And like “Murder of the Orient Express,” it seems almost everyone on the train had a hand in the plot.
The narrative begins in October 2015.
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Then it was that the Washington Free Beacon, a neocon website, engaged a firm of researchers called Fusion GPS to do deep dirt-diving into Trump’s personal and professional life – and take him out.
A spinoff of Bill Kristol’s The Weekly Standard, the Beacon is run by his son-in-law. And its Daddy Warbucks is the GOP oligarch and hedge-fund billionaire Paul Singer.
From October 2015 to May 2016, Fusion GPS dug up dirt for the neocons and never-Trumpers. By May, however, Trump had routed all rivals and was the certain Republican nominee.
So the Beacon bailed, and Fusion GPS found two new cash cows to finance its dirt-diving – the DNC and the Clinton campaign.
To keep the sordid business at arm’s length, both engaged the party’s law firm of Perkins Coie. Paid $12.4 million by the DNC and Clinton campaign, Perkins used part of this cash hoard to pay Fusion GPS.
Here is where it begins to get interesting.
In June 2016, Fusion GPS engaged a British spy, Christopher Steele, who had headed up the Russia desk at MI6, to ferret out any connections between Trump and Russia.
Steele began contacting old acquaintances in the FSB, the Russian intelligence service. And the Russians began to feed him astonishing dirt on Trump that could, if substantiated, kill his candidacy.
Among the allegations was that Trump had consorted with prostitutes at a Moscow hotel, that the Kremlin was blackmailing him, that there was provable collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.
In memos from June to October 2016, Steele passed this on to Fusion GPS, which passed it on to major U.S. newspapers. But as the press was unable to verify it, they declined to publish it.
Steele’s final product, a 35-page dossier, has been described as full of “unsubstantiated and salacious allegations.”
Steele’s research, however, had also made its way to James Comey’s FBI, which was apparently so taken with it that the bureau considered paying Steele to continue his work.
About this “astonishing” development, columnist Byron York of the Washington Examiner quotes Sen. Chuck Grassley:
“The idea that the FBI and associates of the Clinton campaign would pay Mr. Steele to investigate the Republican nominee for president in the run-up to the election raises … questions about the FBI’s independence from politics, as well as the Obama administration’s use of law enforcement and intelligence agencies for political ends.”
The questions begin to pile up.
What was the FBI’s relationship with the British spy who was so wired into Russian intelligence?
Did the FBI use the information Steele dug up to expand its own investigation of Russia-Trump “collusion”? Did the FBI pass what Steele unearthed to the White House and the National Security Council?
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Did the Obama administration use the information from the Steele dossier to justify unmasking the names of Trump officials who had been picked up on legitimate electronic intercepts?
In testimony before the Senate Intelligence Committee, Clinton campaign chair John Podesta and DNC chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz claimed they did not know that Perkins Coie had enlisted Fusion GPA or the British spy to dig up dirt on Trump.
Yet, when Podesta testified, the lawyer sitting beside him in the committee room was Marc Elias of Perkins Coie, who had engaged Fusion GPS and received the fruits of Steele’s undercover work.
Here one is tempted to cite Bismarck that, if you wish to enjoy politics or sausages, you should not inquire too closely how they are made.
Thus we have Free Beacon neocons, never-Trump Republicans, the Hillary Clinton campaign, the DNC, a British spy and comrades in Russian intelligence, and perhaps the FBI, all working with secret money and seedy individuals to destroy a candidate they could not defeat in a free election.
If future revelations demonstrate that this is what went down, it is not only the White House that has major problems.
If you wish to know why Americans detest politics and hate the “swamp” that has been made of their capital city, follow this story all the way to its inevitable end. It will be months of unfolding.
The real indictment here is of the American political system, and the true tragedy is the decline of the Old Republic.
Pat Buchanan
http://www.wnd.com/2017/10/that-othe...ng-down-trump/
Did Walt Jr. show up just to let us know that he thinks Tony Podesta and John Podesta are the same person?
Are you serious? I've known who the fat Podesta is long before the last presidential campaign. If you don't think John is still closely associated with his own brother and the Podesta Group, which he cofounded, you're an idiot.Did Walt Jr. show up just to let us know that he thinks Tony Podesta and John Podesta are the same person?
Tine, can we please get your opinion/thoughts on the google burger crisis?
Was the placement of the cheese, deliberate? Who was behind it?
Which looks most natural?
My NDA forbids me from commenting on burger related issues.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
https://assets.documentcloud.org/doc...nt-Offense.pdf
George Papadopoulos had repeatedly contacted individuals tied to the Russian government in an attempt to broker a meeting with Kremlin officials.
Literally collusion.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
But the real question is, on who's order? If it turns out he did this all on his own he's screwed and they have nothing. Secondly asking to meet is not collusion and even CNN admitted that no illegal act has been proven yet.
George was just calling to find out how they like their coffee and if they want fries served with their nothing burger.
But the real question is, on who's order? If it turns out he did this all on his own he's screwed and they have nothing. Secondly asking to meet is not collusion and even CNN admitted that no illegal act has been proven yet.
he's discussing it in email with gates and manafort, like literally just for starters.
the next course is don jr pursuing the exact same agenda at the same time, no?
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
Holy shit. He was the conduit! Obviously they were trying to distance themselves from him yesterday and downplay his role, but in reality now you can see this wasn't just a shot across the bow, this was a nuclear bomb dropped on the White House. WOW!!! This is going to get ugly. Question is who was the senior campaign official? Tine you think it was Manafort?
Still a nothing burger in terms of Trump himself.
he's discussing it in email with gates and manafort, like literally just for starters.
the next course is don jr pursuing the exact same agenda at the same time, no?
If a few camp men go rogue and no actual tie can be made between Trump and Russia its a big nothing burger. I mean if destroying a party/man/Pres. was this easy just have Republicans go under cover as Dem party workers and make calls/emails to Russia.
Sorry but appearance is not enough, Id guess this greek goof is hung out to dry Manafort gets nothing significant that Trump cant fix any ways and end of story. No way Manny rolls on the one man who will set him free.
does the indictment actually say manafort and gates? i saw it said campaign leader (or something like that) and his team.
he's discussing it in email with gates and manafort, like literally just for starters.
the next course is don jr pursuing the exact same agenda at the same time, no?
and to be clear, i think that not actually naming manafort and gates is genius and is making every single member of the trump team petrified. the fact that the whole team now knows papadopoulus was wearing a wire should petrify them. why would he be wired if the FBI didn't have reason to think they were about to get incriminating statements?
there was absolutely no reason to unseal that indictment except to cause terror. mueller is showing them that if they cooperate, they get a slap on the wrist. if they don't, they get charged like manafort and gates and are looking at 100 years.
also a key to the indictment that you left out is that the russians claimed to actually have clinton's emails, which is literally why this investigation started
In the midst of a coordinated White House effort to distance Donald Trump from former staffer George Papadopoulos, The New York Times reported Tuesday on details from a March 31, 2016 campaign meeting.
Citing a former campaign aide who attended the meeting, The Times reported Trump “listened with interest” as Papadopoulos pitched the idea of a personal meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin.
Though campaign supervisor Sam Clovis worried about the “optics” of a meeting with the Russian strongman, Trump asked questions of Papadopoulos’s plan.
Trump “didn’t say yes, and he didn’t say no” the source disclosed.
However, then Senator Jeff Sessions (R-AL) rejected the meeting and asked those assembled to never speak of it again.
Additional details on the meeting bring into question statements Sessions made while testifying before Congress on multiple occasions.
On October 18, Sen. Al Franken (D-MN) asked Attorney General Sessions, “You don’t believe that surrogates from the Trump campaign had communications with the Russians?”
“I did not — and I’m not aware of anyone else that did,” Sessions replied. “I don’t believe that it happened.
Sessions is a dead man walking.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
Oh ya slam dunk some dude said someone said something. You're naïve to think some unnamed source in a paper who can prove nothing will take down Sessions and Trump. Neither again did ANYTHING illegal, this is where you seem to forget that is what's important. Did Sessions lie about talking about it (again not illegal to talk) maybe but again he denies it and that's that.Citing a former campaign aide who attended the meeting
End off day, all this side drama aside, did Trump collude with Russia plain and simple and so far answer is NO. Talking, listening without action is not a crime.
Unless someone has a solid piece of evidence Tump paid, agreed to or asked a Russian to interfere, guess what....no dice, no charges, no legality issues. Big waste of time and tax payer money...again.
Look at all those other nothing burgers.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
um, all papadopoulos did was lie to FBI agents and now he just pled guilty to a crime.
if what tine just cited is correct, that looks like perjury doesn't it?
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