How is China gonna complete this fake bet if the forum is 86'ed?
How is China gonna complete this fake bet if the forum is 86'ed?
It's hilarious that we as a society think everyone can be a dr, a lawyer, an engineer. Some people are just fucking stupid. Why can't we just accept that?
Reminds of my favorite shows ending lead in...
I have said all along I will weigh in anywhere if anyone wants a specific place and anyone who bet me can show up or send someone to go there I will drive anywhere within 1 hour of the Boston Area if anyone has a place in mind.
I also offered to take any drug test or a physical to prove I had 0 surgery if anyone wants to pony up for that
I will bet I pass any drug test or pass any physical for surgery when the bet ends or will take drug tests or surgery checkups from now till the end of the bet any day if anyone wants to pay for them or wager against me for that.
Bottom line is I lost 20 pounds on my own and have lost 40 more pounds with the help of two semi famous trainers I have hired. I plan to obliterate the 85 pound mark I bet anyone on this forum ( which is probably under $1000) and I believe I will lose over 100 pounds by the time I weigh in.
(cross posted from Druffs thread)
We all just take what you say the opening weight was at your word though right?Originally Posted by chinamaniac
It's hilarious that we as a society think everyone can be a dr, a lawyer, an engineer. Some people are just fucking stupid. Why can't we just accept that?
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Detailed update to where I am at as of today and what I plan to do moving forward
Around April 1st I applied to multiple strength/nutrition coaches. I hired a guy who had a cheap rate compared to others but I knew that he knows his stuff as he was a very good amateur bodybuilder and he got could give me that jump start that I needed. I followed him online for over 10 years and I knew he would get me back to the basics and I would be able to get some type of structured program for nutrition and working out and it worked.
I did everything he asked me to do but about 2 months in I felt like I had reached my ceiling with him as the program was just on auto pilot and I was getting bored as the adjustments were not there. So I canceled and the main reason was part of this program was listening to short podcasts and and watching videos and reading nutrition advice and then answering questions. While this was a tiny bit beneficial I felt was wasting 30-45 minutes of my time every day which could be spent better in other areas which proved to be ultimately true when I hired my new coach. But make no mistake about it, the core nutrition and workout stuff he had me doing did work and got me jump started and helped me get to where I am today on this journey.
Around July 1 after kicking around for a bit I knew I had to make a move to a new trainer and do it quickly or time was going to run thin on me. I made the move to a guy with whom I applied for already and while his prices were not even as close to as cheap as the first guy, I knew this was the best move as he would be more hands on and all of the adjustments have been there like I anticipated. it has been hard work but it is getting easier and easier every day as I get lighter and stronger and all of my soreness is pretty much gone.
When I hired the new guy the plan was this and it is pretty close so far
Scale Weight Loss by Month: Projections
Month #1 – 15 pounds
Month #2 – 12 pounds
Month #3 – 11 pounds
Month #4 – 10 pounds
That would get us to 292 with 8-9 days remaining to water cut whatever I have to cut and my calorie intake will not need to be adjusted much at all.
So here is where I am at now and what needs to happen moving forward.
Today I weighed in @ 321 and from a starting weight of 378 that means I am -57 pounds. I think I am slightly behind pace to what we have calculated above but a pound or 2 loss over one night and all of that changes.
So bottom line a rough pace with the new guy I have lost 0.396 pounds per day since I started his program on July 6th which I believe is -21 pounds over 53 days.
October 29th will leave me 8 days for a water cut because the bet ends November 6th so if I maintain my average of 0.396 pounds from now until October 29th that would be 62 x 0.396 = 24 .5 pounds lost between now and then
So that pace would put me @ 296.5 and I need to get to 293 to sweep my PFA bets so provided I do what I am told and follow instructions I should win the PFA bets.
The problem lies with a guy I bet $5,000 ish with. I need to get to 280 to win my bets with him. So just by pace alone I would need to cut 16.5 pounds or so in 8 days to win that one.
With all of that said I am in the ballpark and adjustments will be made so I am not killing myself the final stretch of this.
I probably should have hired a coach sooner but like a lot of things I do I procrastinate and a lot of that procrastination comes from negative anxiety that happens to most everyone when they talk themselves out of doing things that should probably be doing. And with weight loss that is probably the # 1 reason most people quit.
But in general I believe the best and most accurate way to get in shape is to hire someone whether it be weight watchers, or a trainer or nutritionist who knows what they are doing because while you can research and take advice from people who know what they are doing. A slip here and a slip there or when your mind plays tricks on you and makes you want to stop what you are doing because you feel like it is not working, the program or trainer can just set you straight because the plan is bulletproof and right now every cent I have paid my trainer has been gold and not only because this shit is working, but because I will have all of this information that works for me for the rest of my life.
Little more detail to what I am doing now and where I am in my life
I am eating about 1830 calories per day which consists of a good balance of protein and all types of carbs and the proper amounts of fat. I try to get within 5 grams of each total every day.
I weigh and cook all of my food and I very rarely eat anything processed. I pack meals if I am going to be away from home for long
I lift 3 days per week about 45 minutes per session.
I was doing 3 miles of walking per day but starting yesterday I kicked that up to 4 miles per day and my pace is improving. I usually get the firm 3-4 miles in 6 out of the 7 days per week and I never miss my weight sessions.
I think when I started I could not break a 20 minute mile but now I am probably averaging 16 minute miles
I stretch for about 10 minutes every day and I am no longer sore following any training days. Actually I may be slightly sore but nothing even close to where I was when I started
I also have learned how to work out smarter so I am not making myself so sore that I do not want to train the next day. Dropping back my weights from medium/heavy to comfortable and knowing my limits from trial and error has benefited me greatly
I have lost a watch size on my wrist
I am down 5-6 inches on my waist
I have dropped a shirt size as well and most of my clothes just fall off me now
I had major sciatica pain for a while which is mostly gone now
My energy levels have increased massively and instead of trying to talk myself out of training I attack training
Apple Air Pods are one of the greatest inventions ever
I have listed to every Live Dead Show on Amazon Music
This past week I listened to every Van Halen album up until the 2nd with Hagar
I have concluded that Van Halen is the greatest mainstream rock band since 1975
Rage Against the machine is also one of the greatest bands ever
I was doing so well in poker and training and was in such a rhythm so I bought a new car for the first time in my life
I believe the week after I bought the new car I lost more money than I stand to win collect on this bet which is around 15k
I will probably put much less than 10k miles on this car per year
I then also went into about a 10-14 day cycle where I did not lose more than a pound or two
I have since rebounded with the weight loss but poker has been so so the past few weeks but I am still a consistent winner in the games
I plan on doing more and more sports stuff in the fall like I have the past couple of years and may eventually make a move to it full time
But also there is a casino launching Boston in June 2018 so I am also somewhat confident that is going to possibly be my new place to work
Thats about all I have for now, will answer any questions if anyone has any
Today after cardio
Nice work. Looks like your dog wants a bite.
How do things work with the strength/nutrition coaches? Is it basically a personal trainer you meet at the gym? How often are sessions? Also curious about price range.
I haven't worked with any live coaches.
Both coaches I have worked with are online guys.
More or less you fill out an assessment and then they design a program for you and you are charged monthly xxx and I will get more into detail.
The First Guy I hired- He provided me with video content on what he wanted me to do and it had all of the form etc.... More or less 1 day of upper body, 1 day of lower body and 1 day off and just repeat that over and over again and he wanted 30 minutes of cardio per day.
His nutrition program for me was spit out by a third party site that he uses as a platform for his clients. It basically said eat a handful of this a palm full of that etc... per day. It was not as detailed as I wanted it to be but it did work 100 % and actually got me turned on to eating a lot of nuts.
The problem I had with this program was the 3rd party app we were using would give nutrition info etc.. and have anywhere between 5-20 minutes of boring content every day and then I had to answer questions on it. It was a huge waste of time for me as I felt it was a burden to be doing this shit every day rather than use that time to train or do any other work or stuff I had to do. Also every week I had to fill out a progress update.
So stuff just become repetitive and boring and it felt like I was a broken clock and felt as if my money was not being put to good use
Present Coach This guy did the same thing with the intake forms and then he formulated a baseline nutrition and workout program custom for my goals. I basically check in with him every week on my progress and if he feels we need to adjust something he adjusts something. He also gave me a monsterous file of form videos for any exercise that I do.
Now the first day he sent me my weight training program I was kind of lost and it was a huge challenge in the beginning to learn and get the proper form on a lot of the workouts he has me doing. But as time went on , it became easier.
Same with the nutrition portion. I was hoping he said eat x y and z per day and that would be it. But it was Eat X carbs , x protein and x fats per day for xxx calories and it was my job to figure out the exact amount of food I could fit into that window of xxxx calories where I got to within about 5 of each. For the first 24-48 hours it was a little challenging but now it is very easy to do and I have my core foods which I eat more or less every single day.
As far as prices go I have been quoted anywhere from $100 a month to $1000 month and various prices in between. I would say in my experience you get what you pay for for the most part. But if anyone is considering buying anything beware and make sure you do your homework. Because I would say most people that are charging 500+ are just charging that much because of there name and how many followers they have etc....
In the end I believe for a lot of people, especially overweight people hiring a trainer makes sense just because you are less likely to quit if you are paying someone and they will eliminate a lot of the rookie type mistakes you may had made on your own
Cool, then just lose about 100 more pounds and you're at a healthy weight.
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Someone just asked me on messenger about cheat meals and the bottom line is I have never had much success when I diet with cheat meals.
Although when I was working with my first trainer I got into this bad habit where I would have a big cheat meal on Friday and then I would be pretty good the rest of the week and then when the following friday came around when it was time to weigh in I would do all of my exercise early on an empty stomach so I could get a better scale reading to make a goal weight and that would set me back because it was not "proper weight". THis was a huge fail on my part and had nothing to do with my trainer but even while doing this I still had good success with that guys program.
Had I started training very seriously last November I probably could have enjoyed a cheat meal once a week. I can't now because my margin for error is very close to zero.
What is your end goal beyond winning your bet?Dropping back my weights from medium/heavy to comfortable and knowing my limits from trial and error has benefited me greatly
If you just want to be a healthier you and settle it around 250 and be healthy, then lifting in this way is irrelevant.
If you want to keep going and get in truly great shape, then I question that decision unless the soreness was so bad that it was that or nothing. It’s certainly better than nothing.
When you’re dropping weight as precipitously as you are, it is impossible to avoid dropping a ton of muscle in the process. Ime, lifting as heavy as possible with a max of 8 reps, and to failure on last set, spares muscle significantly when in a extreme calorie deficit. If you are taking this all the way, that decision to high rep and lower weight,will cost you six months to a year hard work just to get back what could have been saved on the way down.
I’d be curious if your trainer recommended that? And if he did, was it because he felt your soreness was going to cause you to abandon it all together?
The heavy weight/ low rep lifting is bro science and has been debunked
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The heavy weight/ low rep lifting is bro science and has been debunked
No, it’s not. There is definitely two schools of thought with studies pointing at whatever they are arguing. If you don’t see the correlation between strength and lifting heavy, and the correlation between being strong and time under heavy weight and the differences in muscle hypertrophy, then imo, you’re unique. If you’re simply a normal guy at a normal weight and eating, some combination of both is probably best. At a severe calorie deficit, having done it, I don’t think it’s close.
Last edited by BCR; 08-29-2018 at 05:49 AM.
Let me put it another way, one metod is not better that the other, and if we are talking gaining muscle mass , high weight low reps will not be the better option, its viritually the same
Slava Ukraini!
10 years ago I was benching north of 360, I have recently gotten back to the gym, Im just hoping this muscle memory bullshit is for real
Slava Ukraini!
AD: Muscle memory is very real.
As far as building . What worked for me when I was in the gym was comfortable weight with many reps
End goal after the bet is to keep keep getting healthier.
Bottom line regarding soreness is when I train to 100% of my capabilities whether weights or cardio i get so sore that I don’t want to do it again the next day and this has caused me to quit many times in the past and I also messed up my calf muscled a few months ago overtraining
Ive modified this so I am getting a great workout, better form therefore I can train 7 days a week. Im still lifting enough weight to give me resistance im just not going overboard
Was catching up on sports gossip and this pic made me laugh...
Also to expand on this further, this was my idea and after watching the below video I feel that overtraining weights and cardio has been a factor in me skipping workouts in the past, I am still lifting enough to get a great workout and my cardio is consistent but I am not going to 100 million zillion % every dayEnd goal after the bet is to keep keep getting healthier.
Bottom line regarding soreness is when I train to 100% of my capabilities whether weights or cardio i get so sore that I don’t want to do it again the next day and this has caused me to quit many times in the past and I also messed up my calf muscled a few months ago overtraining
Ive modified this so I am getting a great workout, better form therefore I can train 7 days a week. Im still lifting enough weight to give me resistance im just not going overboard
My workouts have been more consistent since I started practicing this and I believe I have built up more endurance etc... Could all be in my head but it seems to be working
This explains a lot of it
319 today, closing the gap on where I need to be 10 days out to sweep all bets but on current pace I win one set of bets and lose the other
Off for a 3 mile hike
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