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    to base that hand of kq folding into ace xx board as chip dumping is outright theft. Merge was shady the past 5 years due to banning winning players etc.

     
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      Salty_Aus: Agree, ludicrous example and proves nothing.

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    I have told JJ that we will be making this a big topic of radio (tonight), and hopefully it will create some pressure on Merge.

    Some sites do read poker forums, and it does bother them when sites like this one put the pressure on them to make a situation right.

    We will be bringing this thread and this radio segment to Merge's attention, and they will be made aware that this will not go away until they make it right for JJ.

    JJ has told me that he simply wants the money back and to cash out, and is perfectly willing to leave the site if they don't want him there.

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    Sportsbook.com stiffed me for $156K in September 2007.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IAmProfessionalTalk View Post
    Sportsbook.com stiffed me for $156K in September 2007.
    Welcome back.

    Can you give us more details?

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    Nothing too much to add here, but I can second that I know JJ and there is "zero point... zero" chance this was a chip dump.

    I was banned from Merge a few years ago for winning as well. One time I had a similar request and locking of my account like this on Merge where I just responded "I have no idea who xxxxxx is, but he's fucking terrible at poker". A few hours later my account was active again and I never heard from them again about it.

    It's 2017, this is what online poker looks like now... run by incompetent companies who are making FAR less than they used to so the default move now is to just steal whenever they feel they can get away with it. There is zero reason to have any integrity now, they just don't care about poker and would rather just not have it if they could get away with it. In Merge's case, there is zero chance their poker room is a net positive on their bottom line. Even though they stripped away all the affiliates and player rewards, they would still rather have the few fish they have left betting their $500 on football and craps instead of losing it to poker pros and raking $8 in the process.

    You can maybe call JJ weak for playing KQ that way, but it's a joke if that's their smoking gun in a 500 hand session.

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    I was banned while I had about 175k in my account.I was paid but they raped me with fees and took forever to pay me.
    Im quite confident op is telling the truth

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by IAmProfessionalTalk View Post
    Sportsbook.com stiffed me for $156K in September 2007.
    you are the one with the correlated parlays?

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    Merge did not steal anything..

    They are going out of the way to "soft kill" all the bum Hunter's.. which I applaud..




    Druff mentioned that the guy was looking for a fish just before he turned in for the night. How can a site survive whith people like this as members. he is a bum hunter..(period).

    Poker is better without him....

    Merge did the right thing..

    Just pick your limits and be seated in the next available spot..

    A fair and fun game of poker...(period)

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesparten View Post
    Merge did not steal anything..

    Just pick your limits and be seated in the next available spot..

    A fair and fun game of poker...(period)
    I dont think jj917 is a bumhumter. When I have played with him he has played vs anyone in any lineup. More than likely the lobbies were dead and he was trying to start a game

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinamaniac View Post
    Merge has been banning people for about 3-4 years for nothing other than winning and this year it seems it has gotten worse. I think I lost playing poker last September thru December and then I think I lost about $20,000 roughly in January and then a few months into the year I was a net $13,000 winner and they banned me from playing poker. So overall from Sept to April I may have been a breakeven player or maybe a slight winner or loser who generated a ton of rake and they still banned me from poker.

    I know some other people who have gotten notices like JJ9917 earlier in the year and have had there accounts frozen for a day or 2. But this is the 1st I have heard of them taking money from someone.

    I have been told by reliable sources that most of the people who understood the poker side of things at that company are not with them anymore.

    Also when they used to have collusion cases and disputes on hands etc.... and stuff like JJ9917 is describing, I know one of the guys who they would turn to when they needed these issues resolved because he is a poker expert. He no longer works them on these issues from what I am told.

    Bottom line is the people that work there have no clue about poker
    I can 2nd the banning winning players thing, Merge has banned literally every winning MTT player that I know. If you win on there for any extended period of time then you will be gg'ed. This is the first time I have read about them being scummy to take the money from someones account though !

    Really shitty and as others have said Merge is the nut low...

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by chinamaniac View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by thesparten View Post
    Merge did not steal anything..

    Just pick your limits and be seated in the next available spot..

    A fair and fun game of poker...(period)
    I dont think jj917 is a bumhumter. When I have played with him he has played vs anyone in any lineup. More than likely the lobbies were dead and he was trying to start a game
    I pretty much always respect what u have to say BUT😉

    druff did mention in the podcast about him looking!! for a fish , that is WHAT THEY DO!?!

    and im sure it wasn't the first time ,,,, so the site fucked him back and got rid of him, good.... BOO HOO..

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    Quote Originally Posted by thesparten View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by chinamaniac View Post
    I dont think jj917 is a bumhumter. When I have played with him he has played vs anyone in any lineup. More than likely the lobbies were dead and he was trying to start a game
    I pretty much always respect what u have to say BUT

    druff did mention in the podcast about him looking!! for a fish , that is WHAT THEY DO!?!

    and im sure it wasn't the first time ,,,, so the site fucked him back and got rid of him, good.... BOO HOO..
    Bum hunting is an annoying practice but it goes on a lot and if a site allows it then they are more to blame then a player trying to take advantage of something they are allowed to within the rules. If Merge wants to get rid of people winning too much even though it's a dirty practice they need to pay the person their money and not steal from them.

    This whole thing looks like a house account who sat and found some questionable spot to nit pick at a guy for a 100% freeroll pure money grab. Perhaps they didn't kick him off the network yet (not sure if they have or haven't) but they are trying to get him to leave by doing this.

    Merge is a joke and has been for a while. LOL at charging 5% for bitcoin cashouts while sites like Bovada, ACR, and Bet Online are doing them for free as they should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thesparten View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by chinamaniac View Post
    I dont think jj917 is a bumhumter. When I have played with him he has played vs anyone in any lineup. More than likely the lobbies were dead and he was trying to start a game
    I pretty much always respect what u have to say BUT

    druff did mention in the podcast about him looking!! for a fish , that is WHAT THEY DO!?!

    and im sure it wasn't the first time ,,,, so the site fucked him back and got rid of him, good.... BOO HOO..
    When playing poker of course I want to play vs the weaker players. I think everyone likes to play vs weaker players hbut I will play against anyone. There were no games running on this night and I was trying to create a game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ9917 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by thesparten View Post

    I pretty much always respect what u have to say BUT

    druff did mention in the podcast about him looking!! for a fish , that is WHAT THEY DO!?!

    and im sure it wasn't the first time ,,,, so the site fucked him back and got rid of him, good.... BOO HOO..
    When playing poker of course I want to play vs the weaker players. I think everyone likes to play vs weaker players hbut I will play against anyone. There were no games running on this night and I was trying to create a game.

    TheSpartan also thinks GlobalPoker is god. No need to justify yourself. You’re good here.

     
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      thesparten: It is,, fun and fair!!! And growing tremendously with all kinds of recs and regs. Leave your huds home..

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ9917 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by thesparten View Post

    I pretty much always respect what u have to say BUT

    druff did mention in the podcast about him looking!! for a fish , that is WHAT THEY DO!?!

    and im sure it wasn't the first time ,,,, so the site fucked him back and got rid of him, good.... BOO HOO..
    When playing poker of course I want to play vs the weaker players. I think everyone likes to play vs weaker players hbut I will play against anyone. There were no games running on this night and I was trying to create a game.
    I understand that I am in the minority..

    I enjoy seeing guys that beat me before on the felt..

    I love the fight.. and do enjoy eventually taking them down or the "back and forth" of a street fight. Fucken love it..

    And on some night I enjoy finding total bitch donk idiots..but they come happenstance.

    Im fine with whoever and whomever I find or sits at the table.


    There might not have been many games that night BUT????
    IM SURE THEY WOULDN'T HAVE DONE THAT TO YOU IF THAT WASN'T YOUR PREDOMINANT STYLE OF PLAY.. THEY JUST WOULDN'T..

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ9917 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by thesparten View Post

    I pretty much always respect what u have to say BUT

    druff did mention in the podcast about him looking!! for a fish , that is WHAT THEY DO!?!

    and im sure it wasn't the first time ,,,, so the site fucked him back and got rid of him, good.... BOO HOO..
    When playing poker of course I want to play vs the weaker players. I think everyone likes to play vs weaker players hbut I will play against anyone. There were no games running on this night and I was trying to create a game.
    thesparten is a crack smoking retard who can't even spell his screen name correctly. Hope you get your money back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hockey Guy View Post
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    and they still banned me from poker.
    So, you're saying you've been banned from playing poker for the last 6 months on Merge?
    I got banned in March or April I think. One day I tried to log in and I got a message saying to email support or something to that effect. They basically just said I was welcome to play any casino or sports bets but I was restricted from the poker room. I was barely putting in volume and wasn't doing well for the prior 6 months

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    The people who control the decisions at the sportsbook are aware there was a long segment on the POKER FRAUD ALERT radio show and they still ignore my emails and my requests to gather all of the hand history which they hold. They have not responded to anything since they made the decisions.

    Great segment on the radio show too. It was broken down perfectly by Dan Druff. I would give them permisiion to post the hands here, or give them to Dan or they could just send them to me and I will post them all here for the world of poker to see

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    I don't know you and I mean no offense. U seem like your a cool, calm and collected kind of guy..

    U could be deflecting a little bit. It might not be about this "one" incedent were u COULDNT find any games after looking around and found this bum(fish).

    It was probably the perverbial straw that broke the camel's back..

    Was it underhanded by them, yes... Just like a lot of businesses, u sometimes have to find an excuse to fire someone. It's generally never just one incident but the last straw..

    U guys are so bad for the online game, they don't even want all the rake u guys keep talking about paying..(lol)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilgore Trout View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JJ9917 View Post

    When playing poker of course I want to play vs the weaker players. I think everyone likes to play vs weaker players hbut I will play against anyone. There were no games running on this night and I was trying to create a game.

    TheSpartan also thinks GlobalPoker is god. No need to justify yourself. You’re good here.
    It is kinda spiritual..

    If im making 1k a month (i don't remember the last time I deposited anything) just playing part time and enjoying it while listening to druff in the background,, yes it is cleansing and enlightening..

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