Supreme Court upholds Affordable Health Care Act

[FPS_Russia]

If you get your info from Hannity, Limbaugh and Bachman then cry me a river. If you heard the right wing propaganda ie death panels but you're unsure what this really means I recommend the first post in the link below.
http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/com...alth_care_act/

Hats off to Chief Justice John Roberts for doing the right thing, respect. Guess he's not a Fox rating whore conservative.

It was a forgone conclusion that this would be struck down. GOP shills already started running with talking points about how Health Care reform is Obama's great failure. He spent his entire first term on something unconstitutional blah blah blah...



Great day for the American people.

[shortbuspoker]

As long as I still get to buy my Blue Cross, I don't give two shits. But if you don't think that a huge Pandora's Box has been opened by this decision you are a mong. They have basically ruled that the federal government can tell you to buy any product or service and punish you with a "tax" if you don't comply.

I personally have come to believe that it's a conspiracy among the Republicans to drive more people to vote for Romney and Republican senatorial candidates. John Roberts has by his vote ensured that the only way to defeat the healthcare bill is to vote in a Republican senate before 2014. This is the type of thing that will galvanize the Ron Paul supporters and tea partiers to side with the established party come election time.

[GAMBLE-BOT]

[OSA]

WTF, gorgeous eyes

[herbertstemple]

Obama's Pyrrhic Victory
By DICK MORRIS

Today, Barack Obama won the battle, but will lose the war. The Supreme Court decision makes Obamacare the central issue in the 2012 election, just like it was in the 2010 election. And we know how that turned out.

The Court has sustained the individual mandate. That imposes on us a mandate: To defeat Obama and take the Senate. Now that is the only way we can kill this horrible law.

Public opinion has rejected this law for two years now by about the same margin: 40% support; 55% oppose. While the Court decision may give the law a short term positive bump, the underlying reality of the costs of the program and the increases in everyone's health insurance rates it is already triggering will eliminate any near term gain. Ultimately, it will still be 40-55 against the law.

Right now, presidential polls show Romney and Obama both in the mid-40s. The single most unpopular thing Obama has done is the health care law. Now it is going to be the lynchpin issue. It means that the election itself will increasingly be polarized around opinions of the health care law - a fifteen point loser for the Democrats.

In a real sense, the Supreme Court did not let Obama off the hook by striking down the law. Now he will have to defend it during the election.

Remember what this law does. It requires everyone to spend upwards of 7 percent of their income on health insurance or pay a fine of several thousand dollars. Neither is an attractive alternative for the young and the poor who are the president's political base. And, with the expansion of Medicaid rejected by the Court, the government will not be there to help them.

In 2010, Democrats running for Congress (most of whom lost) did not even attempt to defend Obamacare. They put as much distance between themselves and the law as they could. But now, neither Obama nor his Senate and House candidates will have that option since the Supreme Court has kicked the football back into political play.

The rejection of the Medicaid expansion is huge. This mandate - which would have quadrupled the Medicaid population in some states (like Texas) would have forced all states to pass income taxes and required those with them already to raise them substantially. It required coverage of about a quarter of the country under Medicaid, something the states cannot afford. Some saw it as a way to equalize the north and the south in taxes, eliminating the competitive advantage the south has long enjoyed.

As an American, I would have rather seen the individual mandate thrown out. As a partisan, I'm thrilled that we still have the issue to beat Obama with.

[Fergie72]

Wow. If you think the economy is bad now, just wait till this monster of a tax hike takes full effect.

The government has proven time and time again that it cannot do anything remotely efficiently. Now, they are running (and ruining) the health care system.

[Pooh]

Wow. If you think the economy is bad now, just wait till this monster of a tax hike takes full effect.

The government has proven time and time again that it cannot do anything remotely efficiently. Now, they are running (and ruining) the health care system.

This will never take full effect. It is the main reason Obama will not be re-elected. Good fucking ridance

[PLOL]

yikes

[Indyrick]

Want some green energy? Put a turbine over the graves of Jefferson and Washington so we can harness the spinning.

[craftbeerdrinker]

Mixed on this, not enough young people have/buy insurance so the old people (the ones who cost the most to insure) drive the prices up. Also the fact a lot of people refuse to see Doctors unless extremely ill drive costs up. I don't know the solution, more awareness campaigns?

[Riboflavin]

Basically says it all:

[Riboflavin]

Another great post:

[JUSTIFIEDhomicide]

It's going to be dog shit. We are going to be paying for all of North Philly's birth control until the day we die etc.

This particular thing isn't THAT big of a deal in the grand scheme of things, but it opens up Pandora's box. What will the government make us buy next?

[jsearles22]

It's going to be dog shit. We are going to be paying for all of North Philly's birth control until the day we die etc.

This particular thing isn't THAT big of a deal in the grand scheme of things, but it opens up Pandora's box. What will the government make us buy next?

I agree that the idea of a forced purchase is the most egregious thing wrong with Obamacare. I have a few questions about how this tax will be utilized. Will it go back into the huge general fund or will it be earmarked to help out the health care industry specifically? I do have mixed feelings about the tax altogether. The government already tells me I have to have insurance to drive my car or else I get fined, now I have to have insurance to protect my health? This might sound uneducated, but is insurance the only thing the government forces us to purchase? Doesnt that seem kind of odd?

[JUSTIFIEDhomicide]

It's going to be dog shit. We are going to be paying for all of North Philly's birth control until the day we die etc.

This particular thing isn't THAT big of a deal in the grand scheme of things, but it opens up Pandora's box. What will the government make us buy next?

I agree that the idea of a forced purchase is the most egregious thing wrong with Obamacare. I have a few questions about how this tax will be utilized. Will it go back into the huge general fund or will it be earmarked to help out the health care industry specifically? I do have mixed feelings about the tax altogether. The government already tells me I have to have insurance to drive my car or else I get fined, now I have to have insurance to protect my health? This might sound uneducated, but is insurance the only thing the government forces us to purchase? Doesnt that seem kind of odd?

We purchase lots of things from the government, you just don't realize it. Roads, emergency services, justice system, education, and much more. It's just going to create a bigger divide in the classes and erase the middle class completely. People who are middle class and are floating to survive don't have insurance because it's not on their top list of things to have. Now, they'll have to pony up for it, and that could break some peoples backs. Just another tax, and the sad part is, it being a tax is completely unconstitutional

[Corrigan]

Just another tax, and the sad part is, it being a tax is completely unconstitutional

LMAO at how many people suddenly consider themselves constitutional experts

Although I will say Justifiedhomicide is god

[Steve-O]

I'm glad so many people on this site can predict the future and tell us what the implications of the health care law will be.

[Riboflavin]

It's going to be dog shit. We are going to be paying for all of North Philly's birth control until the day we die etc.

This particular thing isn't THAT big of a deal in the grand scheme of things, but it opens up Pandora's box. What will the government make us buy next?

You think its bad in North Philly you need to cross the river to Camden.

[BCR]

It's going to be dog shit. We are going to be paying for all of North Philly's birth control until the day we die etc.

This particular thing isn't THAT big of a deal in the grand scheme of things, but it opens up Pandora's box. What will the government make us buy next?

You already were paying for the entirety of North Philly's birth control, that is covered 100% by Gateway and has been for over the 15 years that I've been paying attention. And if there is anything they should pay for, it's that given what each kid will cost. Those fuckers have had more comprehensive health care than anyone I have ever encountered.

By comprehensive, I don't mean you'd pick the doctors they'd get, but I am amazed at how every fucking thing is covered. GP's, specialists, unlimited testing, mental, physical therapy, rehab, methadone, and every prescription with $0, or a $1 co-pay. And legally, a pharmacy in PA doesn't have to waive the co-pay for you, if you have private insurance and have a $10 co-pay and forgot your wallet, you're fucked, but a person on Gateway has to have their script filled, and co-pay must be waived. Even shit available OTC Gateway will cover. I've been in line to buy Prilosec and a pharmacist will come out, tear a box open, and fill a script that I'm waiting to pay $18 for in line for free for the Gateway patients.

The thing is, everywhere outside Philly and Pittsburgh, they are the same doctors also. About the only advantage of having private insurance is that the doctor calls all of them first, and then moves on to the Gateway or Primary Health patients next.

There is a ton wrong with the health care bill, but it isn't that it's going to give away more to the lazy. They already get everything. The problems lie more in that group that is the working poor, and how this will affect them, how they will pay for it, and now that they are going to be insured, how much more is that going to cost you. We've already been paying for everything for the true brokedicks and ghetto rats forever.

[SixToedPete]

The OP doesn't hide his left-wing liberal bias. His analysis is laughably absurd.

SCOTUS handed down one of the worst decisions in US history but after Mitt Romney defeats Obama in November and the GOP keeps majority in the House while taking over the Senate, Obamacare will be repealed.