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    Inside The Evil Empire

    ok I've been holding off on this long enough...ill be putting stories in here about my time at the evil empire...I was on the business side of things on the east coast (but I'm sure you can figure out where on the east coast and ill probably mention it in some of these stories)...these stories will be to the best of my recollection, but given that I'm trying to forget I ever worked at this place the exact details might not be 100% accurate, but the stories themselves will be true...these stories will be mostly stream of consciousness shit, so apologies if it doesn't flow very well...I aint no English major...if people don't want to hear this stuff, just let me know and ill stop posting it...any questions feel free to ask and hopefully ill know the answers...

    Story 1: Suffering From Legionnaires Disease

    so there was that story this summer about the rio being infected with legionnaires disease...that was an extremely LOL moment for me given what I know about the workings of the evil empire, especially during budgeting season...here's how it would go on the east coast...look at last year's revenue numbers, show no growth in those numbers but somehow show growth in EBITDA...so how do you show growth on the bottom line if you are projecting no top line growth? you hack away at expenses...the evil empire is great at hacking away at expenses to "drive growth" in the bottom line...that's why if you've been a customer there your experience probably sucks shit...

    so where I worked one of the preferred methods to do that was hacking out maintenance, which is just fucking so laughable...where I worked the properties are fucking old...like built in the 70s/80s kinda old...im too lazy and don't give two shits enough to see if some properties were older, but it's entirely possible...those of you who own houses or cars (or really anything mechanical) and shit know that the older mechanical stuff gets the more it needs investment to keep it working right or the problem just gets bigger and more expensive when shit finally does go wrong...luckily for the evil empire as we hacked away at maintenance, a huge issue never popped up in our region...but we were hacking away mid 6 figures - low 7 figures away from that area which given the amount it would cost to remedy any problem is fucking laughable...if something falls apart in a 30-40-50 year old building it's gonna cost an absolute assload to fix, many many times the $500K-$1M you are saving by hacking away at the maintenance department...

    so when I heard of the legionnaires thing at the rio it didn't surprise me in the least...im sure they were hacking away at their maintenance budget too, causing a massive headline grabbing problem that probably cost them way more in fixes and lost business than they saved in maintenance salaries...smart management FTW...

     
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    To compound matters, maintenance personnel generally have an "us against them" mentality. It's just natural and acceptable.

    Management doesn't spend the money and makes me work on crap? Look, if you don't give a shit then neither do we.

    Beyond that - recurring problems on fail equipment gives me a free pass on being held accountable as a maintenance guy. Certain systems like pool filtration just becomes a place to hide as no one knows how the fuck it works.

    If you swim in a Caesars pool you're an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    To compound matters, maintenance personnel generally have an "us against them" mentality. It's just natural and acceptable.

    Management doesn't spend the money and makes me work on crap? Look, if you don't give a shit then neither do we.

    Beyond that - recurring problems on fail equipment gives me a free pass on being held accountable as a maintenance guy. Certain systems like pool filtration just becomes a place to hide as no one knows how the fuck it works.

    If you swim in a Caesars pool you're an idiot.
    plus they were obviously union guys which makes them have an angst against management anyway...im sure those that were left were like, 'what the fuck is this shit we have to work on'...

    yeah I cant imagine what kinda shit is floating around in evil empire pools...probably can get the clap from just going within 50 feet of them...

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    Story 2: The Employees

    this story will be about the front line employees, not about the fucking dipshit management...so in my role I had access to payroll data so I knew what every position in my region made...not surprisingly the evil empire doesn't pay their employees shit...a typical housekeeper made between $27-32ishK per year...unsurprisingly where I worked the poverty rate was damn near 40%...so when you add on all the taxes, benes, union dues, etc. I would guess an average housekeeper probably cost the company $40-50K all in...so as I mentioned in story 1, the evil empire was always looking to "grow the bottom line" by cutting expenses and housekeeping, like maintenance, was one of those areas to cut...again I reveled at the abject stupidity of this...ok guys so you're saying you're gonna cut 20 housekeepers this year to save $1M in expenses...are we gonna do that in year 2 to save another mill ball and again in year 3 to save another mill ball, and so on? are we planning on having one housekeeper per floor by time this cutting is over? we're supposed to make 10s of millions on the bottom line guys, cutting a $40K housekeeper isn't the way to profitability...how about instead we try to grow the top line and shit? just typing that last question makes me laugh...no thought was given to how this would affect the guest experience...cut at all costs...

    I tell that story to tell this one...there was an employee cafeteria, where the employees could eat for free...I stopped eating there in my last year there because the food had become such shit by that point (surprise, surprise another area where expenses were cut) that i'd rather strap on the Kevlar vest and go pay for food...I was fortunate enough to have the means to do that, the regular employees did not...you would go into the cafeteria and see your housekeepers and porters and other very low paid people with their plates piled high with food...then you realize, yeah this is the only meal these people are eating all day...they are struggling to survive...you see that shit enough, coupled with the absolute depressing nature of working where I worked it wears on you...you feel really, really sorry for those workers especially when you know that they are viewed by management as a dispensable cog in their dogshit operation...there's just no joy at all...not saying you should be having a dance party at work, but there should be some sense of satisfaction you get for going to work...where I worked there was none of that, at least for me...I am the most capitalistic person out there, but even seeing this shit got to me...

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by GambleBotsChafedPenis View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    To compound matters, maintenance personnel generally have an "us against them" mentality. It's just natural and acceptable.

    Management doesn't spend the money and makes me work on crap? Look, if you don't give a shit then neither do we.

    Beyond that - recurring problems on fail equipment gives me a free pass on being held accountable as a maintenance guy. Certain systems like pool filtration just becomes a place to hide as no one knows how the fuck it works.

    If you swim in a Caesars pool you're an idiot.
    plus they were obviously union guys which makes them have an angst against management anyway...im sure those that were left were like, 'what the fuck is this shit we have to work on'...

    yeah I cant imagine what kinda shit is floating around in evil empire pools...probably can get the clap from just going within 50 feet of them...
    Pool chemicals are delivered by digital systems with readback that are finicky as hell. Obv they are prolly 20 years old. High number of bodies and the heat is a battle for the best of them. PH & chlorine being within norms? I will bet the house it's a fail.

    I would challenge Druff to a wager some day. I have the test kits at work for PH & chlorine. Just grab a sample and the results would just be so much fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GambleBotsChafedPenis View Post
    ok I've been holding off on this long enough...ill be putting stories in here about my time at the evil empire...I was on the business side of things on the east coast (but I'm sure you can figure out where on the east coast and ill probably mention it in some of these stories)...these stories will be to the best of my recollection, but given that I'm trying to forget I ever worked at this place the exact details might not be 100% accurate, but the stories themselves will be true...these stories will be mostly stream of consciousness shit, so apologies if it doesn't flow very well...I aint no English major...if people don't want to hear this stuff, just let me know and ill stop posting it...any questions feel free to ask and hopefully ill know the answers...

    Story 1: Suffering From Legionnaires Disease

    so there was that story this summer about the rio being infected with legionnaires disease...that was an extremely LOL moment for me given what I know about the workings of the evil empire, especially during budgeting season...here's how it would go on the east coast...look at last year's revenue numbers, show no growth in those numbers but somehow show growth in EBITDA...so how do you show growth on the bottom line if you are projecting no top line growth? you hack away at expenses...the evil empire is great at hacking away at expenses to "drive growth" in the bottom line...that's why if you've been a customer there your experience probably sucks shit...

    so where I worked one of the preferred methods to do that was hacking out maintenance, which is just fucking so laughable...where I worked the properties are fucking old...like built in the 70s/80s kinda old...im too lazy and don't give two shits enough to see if some properties were older, but it's entirely possible...those of you who own houses or cars (or really anything mechanical) and shit know that the older mechanical stuff gets the more it needs investment to keep it working right or the problem just gets bigger and more expensive when shit finally does go wrong...luckily for the evil empire as we hacked away at maintenance, a huge issue never popped up in our region...but we were hacking away mid 6 figures - low 7 figures away from that area which given the amount it would cost to remedy any problem is fucking laughable...if something falls apart in a 30-40-50 year old building it's gonna cost an absolute assload to fix, many many times the $500K-$1M you are saving by hacking away at the maintenance department...

    so when I heard of the legionnaires thing at the rio it didn't surprise me in the least...im sure they were hacking away at their maintenance budget too, causing a massive headline grabbing problem that probably cost them way more in fixes and lost business than they saved in maintenance salaries...smart management FTW...
    I've had several Rio maintenance men openly complain to me that they cut the budget there way down, and they are severely understaffed.

    All I have to do is make a quick quip like, "It always seem like a long wait for maintenance here, but I know it's not your fault. I don't think they staff this place right", and they give me an earful. It's hilarious.

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    Keep going with the stories, though. This is great.

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    Story 3: A Place Where 1-x > x

    ill preface this story by saying I have a degree where I have 'letters after my last name'...I say this not to impress anybody here, but to say that when some MBA comes up and starts blowing financial smoke up my ass ill usually be able to figure out whats up...might not be immediately, but if I have a little while to chew on shit ill usually be able to dig out the bullshit...if worse comes to worse I'm connected to enough sharp guys where I can shoot an email or fire off a call and be like, 'hey jimbob I'm seeing this, am I outta line in my conclusions?'...im fully confident the answer that I get from jimbob will be balls on...

    so one day all the management (including your floor managers, housekeeping managers, restaurant managers...you get the idea) was called into a ballroom for a presentation by the GMs of the area...the presentation was about how the evil empire from that point forward was going to be about 25-30 different entities (actual numbers may be a little off)...

    quick tangent

    I believe that the operations of most companies should be able to be figured out by most people...like Walmart...they sell a wide variety of goods while keeping costs down...mcdonalds sells food and beverage items...the evil empire sells casino gaming, F&B, entertainment, lodging, and some retail items to make money...that's it, you guys reading this should be able to understand how the evil empire makes money...with this new corporate structure shit was so convoluted that you would have to actually sit down map out what the fuck was going on to figure out what was feeding into where, etc..

    back to the presentation...so the GMs were like the company is going to be split in this way (forgive me if the details aren't 100% accurate, like I said in my first post I've been trying to forget about my time there):

    Bad Parent: this would house the $15B (or whatever it was) in debt along with a few properties
    Entity #1: would have 'x' number of properties
    Entity #2: would have 'y' number of properties
    Entity #3: would have 'z' number of properties

    the three entities would pay a management fee to the bad parent to manage the operations (again forgive me if the details aren't completely accurate, but the general idea I believe will be correct)...the GMs are telling everybody this will help the company outta it's financial troubles and make it so bankruptcy can be pushed off...the crowd was nodding and smiling in approval thinking that the company they worked for is figuring their shit out...im sitting there and I was like, 'what the fuck'...im asking myself how can the bad parent survive this indebtedness if they couldn't make it work when they had 100% of the cash flow from operations flowing into it? now the bad parent is going to have 100-x% (don't remember what 'x' was) of the cash flow? so the debt is going to all of a sudden be under control with LESS fucking cash flow? are you out of your fucking minds? again I felt sorry for the people I was in the room with...these people don't have finance degrees, they know their world of table games, slot ops, housekeeping, etc. and now they have some MBAs telling them that things are on the way to being fixed...I felt sick for them being lied to...got on the horn to a jimbob I know and said, 'dude here's the deal, I think it's fucking dogshit but just wanted to make sure i'm not missing anything'...jimbob laughed and said, 'yeah you're fucked'...and this dude is probably one of the smartest guys ive ever come across so with this conformation I knew my time at the evil empire was not long...

    the sick thing about this whole financial engineering bullshit they tried to pull is that it's a fucking scam...the creditors lent billions to make this LBO possible and they were expecting to get their coupon (interest payments) and principle (amount they lent) back at the end of the term of the loan they put up...this reorganization was basically trying to fuck the creditors bigtime...I believe that the thinking was, we're gonna bankrupt the parent but we'll have the 3 (or 4 or how many ever it was) entities that have the great properties in them that will be solvent...the creditors can't touch the 3 entities that have the good properties in them because they lent to the bad parent not the entities, they'll only be able to lay claim to the assets in the bad parent...this is such fucking scummy ass business it made me want to puke...the cocksucker PE guys were literally trying to steal from the creditors...it was laughable to me that they thought that they were gonna get away with this shit...creditors are rich guys too and you know what rich guys hate above all else? somebody fucking with their money...this is fucking with their money...

    I didn't follow how the reorg went, but I think the evil empire is out of bankruptcy and I think that as part of that the PE guys still have some of their equity stake in tact...that's a fucking joke...these morons levered up the company at the height of gaming revenues in AC only to see revenues decline for a decade straight...they deserve to get punished for making a shitty investment, but alas they got saved...its a shame...

     
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    Caesars Entertainment emerges from bankruptcy with $2 billion in cash
    https://vegasinc.lasvegassun.com/new...nkruptcy-with/

    Caesars Entertainment has completed the bankruptcy process, the company announced Friday, ending two-plus years of legal and financial uncertainty.

    As part of the post-bankruptcy restructuring, Caesars Entertainment has finished its merger with Caesars Acquisition Company and has announced a new board of directors.

    In addition, as part of the reorganizaton, the new company has sold almost all of its physical casinos and the land on which they in the U.S. to a real estate investment trust, VICI Properties, Inc.

    VICI is owned by some of Caesars’ former creditors who will in turn rent the properties back to Caesars, which will still own and operate the gaming operations.

    The cloud of bankruptcy has limited what the company could do over the last few years. As a result, it has focused on renovating many of the rooms at its various properties as well as some convention and meeting space.

    In the end of bankruptcy announcement, however, the company said it’s emerging with $2 billion in cash and plans to expand.


    That growth could take place on land Caesar’s owns in Las Vegas along Koval Lane or even in front of Caesars Palace itself.

    Caesars executives spoke about those plans during the company’s first-quarter earnings call earlier this year:

    “We have sizable land holdings on the east side of approximately 80 to 90 acres,” Caesars CFO Eric Hession said at the time. “And then we own about 7 acres of undeveloped land in front of Caesars Palace, all of which would be prime for potential developments from additional convention space to retail to other offerings that our customers would desire.”
    What kind of a scam is this shit?

    How about someone else buys Caesars properties and kicks Caesars out for good?

    Caesars Entertainment is a terrible company.
    Bad for Gamblers. Bad for Employees. Bad for Nevada.

    Remember when Caesars banned people for winning too much money?

    Don Johnson shows how to beat the house (and get banned) in a few million easy steps
    https://lasvegassun.com/blogs/kats-r...get-banned-fe/

    Johnson, 51, has been visiting Las Vegas for 30 years and makes it to town every six months or so. But he has been stripped of some of his Strip flexibility, bemoaning the unwillingness of Caesars Entertainment resorts to allow him to play blackjack at any of their casinos.

    “I can’t play anywhere at any of their resorts. Not anywhere,” he says. “This is since I beat them out of $4.23 million in Atlantic City. It’s been three or four years, maybe, since I played Caesars here.” (Caesars Entertainment spokesman Gary Thompson confirmed today that Johnson has indeed been banned from playing that company’s casinos.)

    On one of those pre-banning nights at Caesars, Johnson took a table and played $5,000 to $10,000 per hand, running up what was (for him) a modest win of $140,000. Afterward, in a characteristically generous move, he handed out $5,000 chips to a couple of bartenders and a trio of folks in his entourage.

    Fuck Caesars.



     
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    druff listened to the radio, thanks for the shoutout on the thread...

    ill defer to handicapme on his explanation of things regarding the bankruptcy and debt structure...not an area I'm well versed in...I will say that when you buy debt either from the company or on the secondary market the price you pay for that debt will compensate you for the risk that the company goes to shit...so if you buy it from the company you will get a greater interest rate and on the secondary market you will pay much less than par value (par value being 100) for the debt...so while the second lien holders and the like knew what they were getting themselves into by either lending or buying evil empire debt it's no fucking excuse for these assholes to try to hide assets...shit is no better than a poker player scamming a stake...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheXFactor View Post
    Caesars Entertainment emerges from bankruptcy with $2 billion in cash
    https://vegasinc.lasvegassun.com/new...nkruptcy-with/



    What kind of a scam is this shit?

    How about someone else buys Caesars properties and kicks Caesars out for good?

    Caesars Entertainment is a terrible company.
    Bad for Gamblers. Bad for Employees. Bad for Nevada.

    Remember when Caesars banned people for winning too much money?

    Don Johnson shows how to beat the house (and get banned) in a few million easy steps
    https://lasvegassun.com/blogs/kats-r...get-banned-fe/

    Johnson, 51, has been visiting Las Vegas for 30 years and makes it to town every six months or so. But he has been stripped of some of his Strip flexibility, bemoaning the unwillingness of Caesars Entertainment resorts to allow him to play blackjack at any of their casinos.

    “I can’t play anywhere at any of their resorts. Not anywhere,” he says. “This is since I beat them out of $4.23 million in Atlantic City. It’s been three or four years, maybe, since I played Caesars here.” (Caesars Entertainment spokesman Gary Thompson confirmed today that Johnson has indeed been banned from playing that company’s casinos.)

    On one of those pre-banning nights at Caesars, Johnson took a table and played $5,000 to $10,000 per hand, running up what was (for him) a modest win of $140,000. Afterward, in a characteristically generous move, he handed out $5,000 chips to a couple of bartenders and a trio of folks in his entourage.

    Fuck Caesars.


    Johnson gamed them by creating a record of being a losing whale, learned on the sly (with coaching) how to play near perfectly, then negotiated ridiculously generous terms to come play at various properties such that he was positive EV with the terms. Before the casinos figured out that he had dramatically improved his play to make him an EV+ player with those special terms, he walked away with huge wins. There's a doc video on YouTube from a few years ago in which he explains his trick near the end of the vid. So, except for banning him from playing blackjack, the Vegas properties could still welcome him if they don't give him generous terms to play other games. Except in AC, where they can't strictly ban card counters, they have to completely ban him from the AC properties to keep him from playing blackjack there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GambleBotsChafedPenis View Post
    ...so how do you show growth on the bottom line if you are projecting no top line growth? you hack away at expenses.
    I see this all time reading the earnings reports of publicly traded stocks. Their revenue is flat while their earnings skyrocket. It is all a big scam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snake_in_the_ass View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GambleBotsChafedPenis View Post
    ...so how do you show growth on the bottom line if you are projecting no top line growth? you hack away at expenses.
    I see this all time reading the earnings reports of publicly traded stocks. Their revenue is flat while their earnings skyrocket. It is all a big scam.
    yup...those are shit quality earnings...

    ill never forget budgeting...the two years when I took a major lead in that shit that they told us, flatline revenue from the prior year and hack away at expenses to get to the number...you know an organization is fucked if that's the case...

    expenses are a dicey thing...they are a "necessary evil" for lack of a better word, like marketing in the casino world...you damn well be spending on marketing if you want to be relevant and "hot"...but at the same time they have to be controlled...a great company will know what levers they need to pull on that side of things...

    if I saw a company that said they were gonna hack away at expenses for a year because they thought shit had gotten outta control (especially coming out of good times), i'd cut 'em some slack to right size things...they use that as a crutch to improve the bottom line after that year, then that big, red flag should be going up...

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    For the record

    EBITDA = Earnings Before Interest, Taxes, Depreciation and Amortization

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    Quote Originally Posted by AhoosierA View Post
    For the record

    EBITDA = Earnings Before Interest, Taxes, Depreciation and Amortization
    Lawyers and accountants are just artists that use the law and numbers as their medium of expression. Both are apt to get all avant-garde if left to their own devices and you have no fucking idea what you’re looking at.

    Accounting is not science - it’s art

    EBITDA is just an attempt to establish a Pantone color that can be agreed on by those that read/interpret the report.

    I think I would enjoy a ChafedPenis hawt take on the Caesars financial engineering jesus, Gary Loveman.

    In the end you died for his sins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AhoosierA View Post
    For the record

    EBITDA = Earnings Before Interest, Taxes, Depreciation and Amortization
    Lawyers and accountants are just artists that use the law and numbers as their medium of expression. Both are apt to get all avant-garde if left to their own devices and you have no fucking idea what you’re looking at.

    Accounting is not science - it’s art

    EBITDA is just an attempt to establish a Pantone color that can be agreed on by those that read/interpret the report.

    I think I would enjoy a ChafedPenis hawt take on the Caesars financial engineering jesus, Gary Loveman.

    In the end you died for his sins.
    wish I could San...I cant speak for anything outside my little bubble that I was in...basically was trying to keep the titanic afloat so didn't have time to really see the big picture of what the company was outside of the split into the 20 different operating companies...

    don't know how much loveman had to do with it...was more the PE geniuses who thought itd be great to lever up a gaming company at the height of what was then the second biggest gaming market in the country...im sure the guys who got their little peckers up in the air pitching this deal inside the PE companies made off with millions of dollars in bonuses...to me that shit is just laughable...wonder if they even considered what "local gaming" would do to the gambling landscape...im sure they brushed it off as, 'LOL these states outside NJ and NV have ZERO shot at putting a dent into the big 2s gaming revenue'...now PA has the second largest gaming market in the country and AC is still a big giant shithole suffering from a demographic clusterfuck while PA continues to draw from 2 of the top 5 metropolitan areas in the country...guess location does matter after all, eh boys?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AhoosierA View Post
    For the record

    EBITDA = Earnings Before Interest, Taxes, Depreciation and Amortization
    Lawyers and accountants are just artists that use the law and numbers as their medium of expression. Both are apt to get all avant-garde if left to their own devices and you have no fucking idea what you’re looking at.

    Accounting is not science - it’s art

    EBITDA is just an attempt to establish a Pantone color that can be agreed on by those that read/interpret the report.

    I think I would enjoy a ChafedPenis hawt take on the Caesars financial engineering jesus, Gary Loveman.

    In the end you died for his sins.
    If the real books were used for publicly traded stocks, I think most stocks would lose 50-75% overnight.

     
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