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    Canada's Version of Removing Statues - Sir John A Macdonald, our first Prime Minister

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/john...erry-1.4260366

    I'm sorry but they were different times then. White men did treat natives poorly, which is why we give back land, resources, etc in an effort to help them. But at the same time he was our first Prime Minister, he is a part of our history and IMO schools, highways, etc can still be named after him.

    Somewhat similar to the debate in the US. How can we preserve history despite great men/women committing acts that are absolutely horrendous in 2017?

     
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    Treason was a crime in 1860, too. Robert E Lee did nothing to deserve the description "great man".

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by simpdog View Post
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/john...erry-1.4260366

    I'm sorry but they were different times then. White men did treat natives poorly, which is why we give back land, resources, etc in an effort to help them. But at the same time he was our first Prime Minister, he is a part of our history and IMO schools, highways, etc can still be named after him.

    Somewhat similar to the debate in the US. How can we preserve history despite great men/women committing acts that are absolutely horrendous in 2017?
    Are there any Canadians who are actually worthy of a statute, other than Wayne Gretsky and the guy who created Moosehead beer?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyB View Post
    Treason was a crime in 1860, too. Robert E Lee did nothing to deserve the description "great man".
    That is a major difference, however if Charlottesville didn't happen, I'm not sure if it would have been brought up in Canada.

    I'm perfectly fine with schools/roads/etc being named after Macdonald. You don't conquer land + setup a country without committing atrocities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayjami View Post
    Are there any Canadians who are actually worthy of a statute, other than Wayne Gretsky and the guy who created Moosehead beer?
    What about the guys that invented basketball, the telephone, insulin, and of course poutine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayjami View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by simpdog View Post
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/john...erry-1.4260366

    I'm sorry but they were different times then. White men did treat natives poorly, which is why we give back land, resources, etc in an effort to help them. But at the same time he was our first Prime Minister, he is a part of our history and IMO schools, highways, etc can still be named after him.

    Somewhat similar to the debate in the US. How can we preserve history despite great men/women committing acts that are absolutely horrendous in 2017?
    Are there any Canadians who are actually worthy of a statute, other than Wayne Gretsky and the guy who created Moosehead beer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deal View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jayjami View Post
    Are there any Canadians who are actually worthy of a statute, other than Wayne Gretsky and the guy who created Moosehead beer?
    What about the guys that invented basketball, the telephone, insulin, and of course poutine?
    Also Terry Fox, Pierre Trudeau, Lester Pearson, everyone from Vimy Ridge and the Dieppe Raid?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyB View Post
    Treason was a crime in 1860, too. Robert E Lee did nothing to deserve the description "great man".
    you mean like when our founders signed the declaration of independence?

    get some perspective.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by hongkonger View Post
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    What about the guys that invented basketball, the telephone, insulin, and of course poutine?
    Also Terry Fox, Pierre Trudeau, Lester Pearson, everyone from Vimy Ridge and the Dieppe Raid?
    Pierre Trudeau??????

    Go back to the U.S. you fucking goof.

    Seriously????? Pierre fucking Trudeau??????????

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hockey Guy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hongkonger View Post

    Also Terry Fox, Pierre Trudeau, Lester Pearson, everyone from Vimy Ridge and the Dieppe Raid?
    Pierre Trudeau??????

    Go back to the U.S. you fucking goof.

    Seriously????? Pierre fucking Trudeau??????????
    Am I wrong? I'm still learning. Didn't he help get Canada its own constitution and patriation in 1982? Please, inform me because I want to know.

     
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    You guys should have some Leonard Cohen statues.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyB View Post
    Treason was a crime in 1860, too. Robert E Lee did nothing to deserve the description "great man".
    you mean like when our founders signed the declaration of independence?

    get some perspective.
    Geezus christ is this guy for real?

    George Washington quit the British to form the USA. Lee quit the USA to defend slavery. And you tell someone 50 times smarter than you to get some perspective? Take your head out of your ass.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToasterOven View Post
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    you mean like when our founders signed the declaration of independence?

    get some perspective.
    Geezus christ is this guy for real?

    George Washington quit the British to form the USA. Lee quit the USA to defend slavery. And you tell someone 50 times smarter than you to get some perspective? Take your head out of your ass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simpdog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyB View Post
    Treason was a crime in 1860, too. Robert E Lee did nothing to deserve the description "great man".
    That is a major difference, however if Charlottesville didn't happen, I'm not sure if it would have been brought up in Canada.

    I'm perfectly fine with schools/roads/etc being named after Macdonald. You don't conquer land + setup a country without committing atrocities.
    This was happening in Halifax ages before Charlotesville re: Edward Cornwallis statue and other things named after him. Major bullshit.
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