Hey Apple.....you gravy sucking fat pigs

[limitles]

can head down to the Chinese fish sauce sucking sewer of all that is excrement and fuck your boy daughter slave step-child
motherfuckin dildo bitch for whatever they've got.

Never forget......never again.

If I can have some of my ten grand back I might change my mind.......

[hongkonger]

wat

[limitles]

wat

wat wat? This innovative company has devolved into a sneaky ass lying bitch whore. You got some history with them, computers, software alright.
With each and every operating system "upgrade" more and more valuable features are eliminated.

Try operating a PPC system today or even the highly praised Snow Leopard on an Intel built iMac. You are barricaded or restricted from using what you have paid for in full. Yes, you can search the net for work-rounds but it's a crap-shoot and precious time is wasted. It's obvious that the bottom line is all that matters, something the company constantly tries to deny.
It's time we got Lew involved here

[LarryLaffer]

[Belly Buster]

wat

wat wat? This innovative company has devolved into a sneaky ass lying bitch whore. You got some history with them, computers, software alright.
With each and every operating system "upgrade" more and more valuable features are eliminated.

Try operating a PPC system today or even the highly praised Snow Leopard on an Intel built iMac. You are barricaded or restricted from using what you have paid for in full. Yes, you can search the net for work-rounds but it's a crap-shoot and precious time is wasted. It's obvious that the bottom line is all that matters, something the company constantly tries to deny.
It's time we got Lew involved here

Just get a PC.

[Dan Druff]

Apple doing their best lately to drive me from wanting to own an iPhone.

They've pretty much become everything people used to hate about the PC industry.

They're combining authoritarianism, poor workmanship, and questionable customer service practices, and that's not at all a good look.

[limitles]

wat wat? This innovative company has devolved into a sneaky ass lying bitch whore. You got some history with them, computers, software alright.
With each and every operating system "upgrade" more and more valuable features are eliminated.

Try operating a PPC system today or even the highly praised Snow Leopard on an Intel built iMac. You are barricaded or restricted from using what you have paid for in full. Yes, you can search the net for work-rounds but it's a crap-shoot and precious time is wasted. It's obvious that the bottom line is all that matters, something the company constantly tries to deny.
It's time we got Lew involved here

Just get a PC.

I did. Lenovo poptop or something . Like the peas afraid to open

[Dan Druff]

I have an HP and my girlfriend has a Lenovo. The HP performs better and has a better laid out keyboard. The Lenovo's keys are too cramped together. However, my HP's keyboard now has TWICE developed malfunctions, so that's not good.

Other than the keyboard, I am happy with the HP, though. I would buy one again. Also, while you deal with the usual idiotic Indian customer support with HP, once you manage to reach an American case manager, they tend to treat you fairly.

However, one problem with HP nowadays is that they've done away with coupons (from what I can see), so it's gotten more expensive to buy one. I got a helluva deal on mine in 2015, but that same machine would be much more today.

If there's one piece of advice I can give people buying new computers, it's to not cheap out on RAM, and to get a dual drive system -- one SSD, one regular. Store the big files (like movies) on the regular drive, and store the stuff which you load often (and the operating system) on the SSD. It will perform WAY better. This is also more cost effective than getting a giant SSD drive (very expensive) or just putting up with a small SSD drive and nothing else.

[hongkonger]

I have an HP and my girlfriend has a Lenovo. The HP performs better and has a better laid out keyboard. The Lenovo's keys are too cramped together. However, my HP's keyboard now has TWICE developed malfunctions, so that's not good.

Other than the keyboard, I am happy with the HP, though. I would buy one again. Also, while you deal with the usual idiotic Indian customer support with HP, once you manage to reach an American case manager, they tend to treat you fairly.

However, one problem with HP nowadays is that they've done away with coupons (from what I can see), so it's gotten more expensive to buy one. I got a helluva deal on mine in 2015, but that same machine would be much more today.

If there's one piece of advice I can give people buying new computers, it's to not cheap out on RAM, and to get a dual drive system -- one SSD, one regular. Store the big files (like movies) on the regular drive, and store the stuff which you load often (and the operating system) on the SSD. It will perform WAY better. This is also more cost effective than getting a giant SSD drive (very expensive) or just putting up with a small SSD drive and nothing else.

All of this

[Belly Buster]

If there's one piece of advice I can give people buying new computers, it's to not cheap out on RAM, and to get a dual drive system -- one SSD, one regular. Store the big files (like movies) on the regular drive, and store the stuff which you load often (and the operating system) on the SSD. It will perform WAY better. This is also more cost effective than getting a giant SSD drive (very expensive) or just putting up with a small SSD drive and nothing else.

So I got the closest thing possible, and decided to give up on the SSD drive, getting a 2TB regular drive instead.

I could always swap it out for an SSD drive, but I am too cheap to do that.

Also you skimped on exactly the wrong component; SSD will singularly improve your experience more than anything else.

.

:moonlanding

[Brittney Griner's Clit]

Sometimes you get Jobbed. Take the L like a man.

[snake_in_the_ass]

Apple was cool when they were the underdogs. Now they just find any way possible to rip off their customers. I will stick with android and $299 laptops.

[simpdog]

LOL Druff giving out advice that is a few years old.

If you're not running your OS/main files on an SSD drive at this point you have no one to blame but yourself for your pc/laptop being slow.

[limitles]

Never one to admit defeat I press on against the man's restrictions on perfectly good software, no, better software than it now provides.

One bugga boo, Adobe FLASH, seems to required at some point and updating on an older OS is hard or fraught with trouble.

I decided to accept the first offer googled but when I saw the offering I balked like a pitcher playing ball. Does this look legit or is that the wrong question?

[Sidewinder]

I have an HP and my girlfriend has a Lenovo. The HP performs better and has a better laid out keyboard. The Lenovo's keys are too cramped together. However, my HP's keyboard now has TWICE developed malfunctions, so that's not good.

Other than the keyboard, I am happy with the HP, though. I would buy one again. Also, while you deal with the usual idiotic Indian customer support with HP, once you manage to reach an American case manager, they tend to treat you fairly.

However, one problem with HP nowadays is that they've done away with coupons (from what I can see), so it's gotten more expensive to buy one. I got a helluva deal on mine in 2015, but that same machine would be much more today.

If there's one piece of advice I can give people buying new computers, it's to not cheap out on RAM, and to get a dual drive system -- one SSD, one regular. Store the big files (like movies) on the regular drive, and store the stuff which you load often (and the operating system) on the SSD. It will perform WAY better. This is also more cost effective than getting a giant SSD drive (very expensive) or just putting up with a small SSD drive and nothing else.

Yes but the Windows experience still sucks. It's a tough trade-off, at least to me. You can have diversity of choice and inexpensive options with a Windows laptop (and suffer never-ending Windows bullshit), or overpay for a superior OS with a Macbook and basically never get horse-fucked by Billl Gates and his horrible OS

There are other options like linux laptops ( http://www.system76.com ) .

At the end of the day, all the options suck. The only laptop I've bought I was happy with was a used HP Chromebook for 70 bucks on ebay. The macbooks I own were overpriced even though i bought them refurbished from Apple and all Windows laptops are just fucking maddening (but you can get good hardware for < $500).

Never forget Apple sold out to Windows when Jobs was obsessed with making sure they developed MS Office for all Apple platforms.

[limitles]

After 54 minutes in chat with two Apple employees, one a senior advisor, I have a strong case against Apple. In short the Snow Leopard OS that shipped with my iMac is bricked. It will not reinstall. They sell a retail version of the same software which they lied about in the chat blah, blah, blah. It's dark path many have traveled and most agree the retail version will do the trick. I wouldn't give a rat's ass if newer versions of the applications on Snow Leopard weren't dumbed-down and less effective.
I told them I was going to take it to small claims court but they held their ground and tried to convince me it was a hardware issue. Should I fight on behalf of all that is good, or should I just search out some torrents and continue to steal back from this company at every opportunity?




Mac products vintage in the United States and Turkey and obsolete in the rest of the world

Mac notebooks

• MacBook (13-inch)
• MacBook (13-inch, Late 2009)
• MacBook (13-inch, Mid 2010)
• MacBook Air (Mid 2009)
• MacBook Air (11-inch, Late 2010)
• MacBook Air (13-inch, Late 2010)
• MacBook Air (11-inch, Mid 2011)
• MacBook Air (13-inch, Mid 2011)
• MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid 2009)
• MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid 2010)
• MacBook Pro (15-inch, Glossy)
• MacBook Pro (15-inch, Mid 2009)
• MacBook Pro (15-inch, 2.53GHz, Mid 2009)
• MacBook Pro (17-inch, Mid 2009)
• MacBook Pro (15-inch, Mid 2010)
• MacBook Pro (17-inch, Mid 2010)
• MacBook Pro (13-inch, Early 2011)
• MacBook Pro (15-inch, Early 2011)
• MacBook Pro (17-inch, Early 2011)
• MacBook Pro (13-inch, Late 2011)
• MacBook Pro (15-inch, Late 2011)
• MacBook Pro (17-inch, Late 2011)
• Mac desktops

• iMac G5 (20-inch)
• iMac G5 ALS (20-inch)
• iMac (20-inch, Mid 2009)
• iMac (21.5-inch, Late 2009)
• iMac (21.5-inch, Mid 2010)
• iMac (27-inch, Late 2009)
• iMac (27-inch, Mid 2010)
• Mac mini (Late 2009)
• Mac mini (Mid 2010)
• Mac mini Server (Mid 2010)
• Mac Pro (Early 2009)
• Xserve (Early 2009)
• Xserve G5 (January 2005)

Peripherals

• AirPort Express 802.11n (1st Gen)
• AirPort Extreme 802.11n (4th generation)
• Apple Cinema Display (30-inch DVI Early 2007)
• Apple LED Cinema Display (24-inch)
• Apple Studio Display 17
• Apple TV (1st generation)
• Apple TV (2nd generation)
• iSight
• Time Capsule 802.11n (3rd generation)

Mac products obsolete worldwide

Mac notebooks

• iBook
• iBook (800 MHz 32 VRAM)
• iBook (900 MHz 32 VRAM)
• iBook (14.1 LCD)
• iBook (14.1 LCD 900 MHz 32VRAM)
• iBook (14.1 LCD 16 VRAM)
• iBook (14.1 LCD 32 VRAM)
• iBook (16 VRAM)
• iBook (Opaque 16 VRAM)
• iBook (32 VRAM)
• iBook Special Edition (FireWire)
• iBook (Dual USB)
• iBook (Firewire)
• iBook (Late 2001)
• iBook G4 [original]
• iBook G4 (Early 2004)
• iBook G4 (12-inch, Late 2004)
• iBook G4 (14-inch)
• iBook G4 (14-inch, Early 2004)
• iBook G4 (14-inch, Late 2004)
• iBook G4 (12-inch, Mid 2005)
• iBook G4 (14-inch, Mid 2005)
• MacBook (13-inch, Late 2006)
• MacBook (13-inch, Mid 2007)
• MacBook (13-inch, Late 2007)
• MacBook (13-inch, Early 2008)
• MacBook (13-inch, Late 2008)
• MacBook (13-inch, Aluminum, Late 2008)
• MacBook (13-inch, Early 2009)
• MacBook (13-inch, Mid 2009)
• MacBook Air [original]
• MacBook Air (Late 2008)
• MacBook Pro [original]
• MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid 2009)
• MacBook Pro (15-inch, 2.53GHz, Mid 2009)
• MacBook Pro (15-inch, Mid 2009)
• MacBook Pro (15-inch, 2.4/2.2GHz)
• MacBook Pro (15-inch, Core 2 Duo)
• MacBook Pro (15-inch, Early 2008)
• MacBook Pro (15-inch, Late 2008)
• MacBook Pro (17-inch)
• MacBook Pro (17-inch, Core 2 Duo)
• MacBook Pro (17-inch, 2.4GHz)
• MacBook Pro (17-inch, Early 2008)
• MacBook Pro (17-inch, Late 2008)
• MacBook Pro (17-inch, Early 2009)
• MacBook Pro (17-inch, Mid 2009)
• PowerBook 100 thru PowerBook 540c (all models)
• PowerBook 1400 (all models)
• PowerBook 2400 thru 5300cs (all models)
• PowerBook Duo Dock (all models)
• PowerBook Duo (all models)
• PowerBook (Firewire)
• PowerBook G3
• PowerBook G3 (Bronze Keyboard)
• PowerBook G3 Series
• PowerBook G4
• PowerBook G4 (DVI)
• PowerBook G4 (Gigabit Ethernet)
• PowerBook G4 (1GHz/867MHz)
• PowerBook G4 (12-inch)
• PowerBook G4 (12-inch, 1.33Ghz)
• PowerBook G4 (12-inch DVI)
• PowerBook G4 (15-inch, 1.5/1.33Ghz)
• PowerBook G4 (15-inch 1.67/1.5Ghz)
• PowerBook G4 (15-inch, FW800)
• PowerBook G4 (17-inch)
• PowerBook G4 (17-inch 1.33Ghz)
• PowerBook G4 (17-inch, 1.5Ghz)
• PowerBook G4 (15-inch, 1.67/1.5Ghz)
• PowerBook G4 (17-inch, 1.67Ghz)
• PowerBook G4 (12-inch, 1.5Ghz)
• PowerBook G4 (15-inch, Double-Layer SD)
• PowerBook G4 (17-inch, Double-Layer SD)

Mac desktops

• Apple II (all models)
• Apple III
• Apple Network Server (all models)
• Apple Workgroup Server (all models)
• eMac [original]
• eMac (ATI Graphics)
• eMac (USB 2.0)
• eMac (2005)
• iMac 233 MHz
• iMac 266/333 MHz
• iMac 350 MHz
• iMac G5 (17-inch)
• iMac G5 ALS (17-inch)
• iMac G5 ALS (20-inch)
• iMac 400 MHz DV
• iMac 400 MHz DV (Special Edition)
• iMac (Flat Panel)
• iMac (17-inch, Flat Panel)
• iMac (17-inch Flat Panel, 1GHz)
• iMac (Summer 2000)
• iMac (Summer 2000) DV
• iMac (Summer 2000) DV Special Edition
• iMac (Summer 2001)
• iMac (Early 2001)
• iMac (Flat Panel 2003)
• iMac (USB 2.0)
• iMac G5 (17-inch, iSight)
• iMac (17-inch, Early 2006)
• iMac (20-inch, Early 2006)
• iMac (17-inch, Mid 2006 )
• iMac (17-inch, Late 2006)
• iMac (17-inch, Late 2006 CD)
• iMac (20-inch, Late 2006)
• iMac (20-inch, Mid 2007)
• iMac (20-inch, Early 2008)
• iMac (20-inch, Early 2009)
• iMac (24-inch)
• iMac (24-inch, Mid 2007)
• iMac (24-inch, Early 2008)
• iMac (24-inch, Early 2009)
• iMac G5 (20-inch, iSight)
• Mac mini [original]
• Mac mini (Late 2005)
• Mac mini (Early 2006)
• Mac mini (Late 2006)
• Mac mini (Mid 2007)
• Mac mini (Early 2009)
• Mac mini (Late 2009)
• Mac Pro
• Mac Pro (Early 2008)
• Macintosh 128K/512K/512Ke
• Macintosh Centris (all models)
• Macintosh Classic; Macintosh Classic II
• Macintosh Color Classic/Color Classic II
• Macintosh II (all models)
• Macintosh LC (all models)
• Macintosh Plus
• Macintosh Portable
• Macintosh Quadra (all models)
• Macintosh Quadra/Centris (all models)
• Macintosh SE (all models)
• Macintosh Server G3
• Macintosh Server G3 (Blue and White)
• Macintosh Server G4 (Digital Audio)
• Macintosh Server G4 (QuickSilver)
• Macintosh Server G4 (Mirrored Drive Doors)
• Macintosh Server G4 (AGP Graphics)
• Macintosh Server G4 (Gigabit Ethernet)
• Macintosh Server G4 (QuickSilver 2002)
• Performa (all models)
• Power Mac G4 (AGP Graphics)
• Power Mac G4 (Gigabit Ethernet)
• Power Mac G4 (PCI Graphics)
• Power Mac G4 (Digital Audio)
• Power Mac G4 (QuickSilver)
• Power Mac G4 (QuickSilver 2002)
• Power Mac G4 (QuickSilver 2002ED)
• Power Mac G4 (FW 800)
• Power Mac G4 (Mirrored Drive Doors)
• Power Mac G4 (Mirrored Drive Door 2003)
• Power Mac G4 Cube
• Power Mac G5 [original]
• Power Mac G5 (June 2004)
• Power Mac G5 (Late 2004)
• Power Mac G5 (Early 2005)
• Power Mac G5 (Late 2005)
• Power Macintosh 4400 thru 9600 (all models)
• Power Macintosh G3 (Blue and White)
• Twentieth Anniversary Macintosh
• Xserve [original]
• Xserve (Cluster Node)
• Xserve G5
• Xserve RAID
• Xserve RAID (SFP)
• Xserve RAID (SFP Late 2004)
• Xserve (Slot Load)
• Xserve (Late 2006)
• Xserve (Early 2008)