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    Medicaid in Nevada -a look at the rest of our future

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    We spend 700 billion a year on the war machine. Seems like we could average 3 billion a state so poor and working class people can have some health coverage.

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    10,000 people per day turn 65
    Medicaid is widely used as the long term care program for the aged blind and disabled
    I'm not sure what this infographic does except show that we have a senior problem

     
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    In Star Trek there was a civilization where everyone noosed themselves at age 60, so as not to be a burden on their family and society. Not saying this is a great idea or anything, but I wonder what practical applications that would have on economy and government in America. Or, say, Japan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SrslySirius View Post
    In Star Trek there was a civilization where everyone noosed themselves at age 60, so as not to be a burden on their family and society. Not saying this is a great idea or anything, but I wonder what practical applications that would have on economy and government in America. Or, say, Japan.
    If all the 60 year olds in Nevada noosed themselves the slot machines would go unused

     
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    I can't find it right now, but if you look at population by age group starting from oldest to youngest in developed countries, America's population looks like a top heavy hour glass. Japan's is like an inverted pyramid. If the old people in Japan noosed themselves there wouldn't be many people left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToasterOven View Post
    We spend 700 billion a year on the war machine. Seems like we could average 3 billion a state so poor and working class people can have some health coverage.
    War machine employs a ton of people...and indirectly employs a ton more....you'd just be exchanging one problem for another.

    This country is a bit of a mess...but still better than Canada

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
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    And what was the growth in population of the state over that same period?

    From census bureau data:

    1970 488,738 71.3%
    1980 800,493 63.8%
    1990 1,201,833 50.1%
    2000 1,998,257 66.3%
    2010 2,700,551 35.1%
    Est. 2016 2,940,058
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    Spending on healthcare helps job growth as well. FTR VA medical spending over the past 9 years has gone from 36 billion to over 70 billion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hongkonger View Post
    And what was the growth in population of the state over that same period?

    From census bureau data:

    1970 488,738 71.3%
    1980 800,493 63.8%
    1990 1,201,833 50.1%
    2000 1,998,257 66.3%
    2010 2,700,551 35.1%
    Est. 2016 2,940,058
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    Quote Originally Posted by Texter View Post
    War machine employs a ton of people...and indirectly employs a ton more....you'd just be exchanging one problem for another.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parabl..._broken_window

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by hongkonger View Post
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    And what was the growth in population of the state over that same period?

    From census bureau data:

    1970 488,738 71.3%
    1980 800,493 63.8%
    1990 1,201,833 50.1%
    2000 1,998,257 66.3%
    2010 2,700,551 35.1%
    Est. 2016 2,940,058
    So population has grown 6x and spending has grown 42x, tight argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abrown83 View Post
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    And what was the growth in population of the state over that same period?

    From census bureau data:

    1970 488,738 71.3%
    1980 800,493 63.8%
    1990 1,201,833 50.1%
    2000 1,998,257 66.3%
    2010 2,700,551 35.1%
    Est. 2016 2,940,058
    So population has grown 6x and spending has grown 42x, tight argument.


    Along with the increase in population, there is inflation ($1 in 1975 = $4.53 in 2016), so spending has actually only grown 9.2x. Then there's the increase in health care costs far outpacing inflation (not controlled by the government), the aging of the population, the increase in the population eligible for Medicaid due to socioeconomic factors and the change in rules under Obamacare, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hongkonger View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by abrown83 View Post

    So population has grown 6x and spending has grown 42x, tight argument.


    Along with the increase in population, there is inflation ($1 in 1975 = $4.53 in 2016), so spending has actually only grown 9.2x. Then there's the increase in health care costs far outpacing inflation (not controlled by the government), the aging of the population, the increase in the population eligible for Medicaid due to socioeconomic factors and the change in rules under Obamacare, etc.

    Are you really this dense? Of course guvment controls the health care costs under Medicaid. And the aging population shifts health care costs from Medicaid to Medicare. The changes in rules under Obamacare, etc, huh? It was Obamacare that significantly expanded Medicaid. You belong in the same asylum that LegalyNonbindingPosts does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
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    Along with the increase in population, there is inflation ($1 in 1975 = $4.53 in 2016), so spending has actually only grown 9.2x. Then there's the increase in health care costs far outpacing inflation (not controlled by the government), the aging of the population, the increase in the population eligible for Medicaid due to socioeconomic factors and the change in rules under Obamacare, etc.

    Are you really this dense? Of course guvment controls the health care costs under Medicaid. And the aging population shifts health care costs from Medicaid to Medicare. The changes in rules under Obamacare, etc, huh? It was Obamacare that significantly expanded Medicaid. You belong in the same asylum that LegalyNonbindingPosts does.

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    Medicaid has far lower costs than private health care. It's good that Obamacare expanded Medicaid because people need it. Increased cost of Medicaid, lower costs overall, plus better health care for those near the poverty line.

    Obama won so much I got sick of winning. Trump cured me of that.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
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    Along with the increase in population, there is inflation ($1 in 1975 = $4.53 in 2016), so spending has actually only grown 9.2x. Then there's the increase in health care costs far outpacing inflation (not controlled by the government), the aging of the population, the increase in the population eligible for Medicaid due to socioeconomic factors and the change in rules under Obamacare, etc.

    Are you really this dense? Of course guvment controls the health care costs under Medicaid. And the aging population shifts health care costs from Medicaid to Medicare. The changes in rules under Obamacare, etc, huh? It was Obamacare that significantly expanded Medicaid. You belong in the same asylum that LegalyNonbindingPosts does.

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    You call a guy dense and then two sentences later post the bold part. Even the Trumpkins that can type in complete sentences are incredibly ignorant on PFA. Back to school for you.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToasterOven View Post
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    Are you really this dense? Of course guvment controls the health care costs under Medicaid. And the aging population shifts health care costs from Medicaid to Medicare. The changes in rules under Obamacare, etc, huh? It was Obamacare that significantly expanded Medicaid. You belong in the same asylum that LegalyNonbindingPosts does.

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    You call a guy dense and then two sentences later post the bold part. Even the Trumpkins that can type in complete sentences are incredibly ignorant on PFA. Back to school for you.

    Really? DO fucking explain, smartass:

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by hongkonger View Post
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    Are you really this dense? Of course guvment controls the health care costs under Medicaid. And the aging population shifts health care costs from Medicaid to Medicare. The changes in rules under Obamacare, etc, huh? It was Obamacare that significantly expanded Medicaid. You belong in the same asylum that LegalyNonbindingPosts does.

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    Medicaid has far lower costs than private health care. It's good that Obamacare expanded Medicaid because people need it. Increased cost of Medicaid, lower costs overall, plus better health care for those near the poverty line.

    Obama won so much I got sick of winning. Trump cured me of that.

    What the fuck does this have to do with my pointing out how wrong your initial retorts were?

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    One of the biggest problem in our society is people don't admit when they are wrong. Do some research before you pontificate. One of medicaid's largest expenses is nursing home care. Anyone that does anything with health care knows this.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToasterOven View Post
    One of the biggest problem in our society is people don't admit when they are wrong. Do some research before you pontificate. One of medicaid's largest expenses is nursing home care. Anyone that does anything with health care knows this.
    And you think you are Bright. Wow, just wow.

     
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