Winco "Loss Prevention" Employees versus 15-year-old female shoplifter -- whose side are you on?

[Dan Druff]

The situation: 15-year-old girl stole candy from Winco (a supermarket in Washington), and two male "Loss Prevention" employees chased her outside and ended up wrestling with her on the ground.

In the process, the girl skinned her knee.

She did seem to be trying to escape, and would not sit still. However, the employees do seem a bit too rough, needlessly moving her to different places, rather than just holding her where she is.

Who was legally in the right here?

Who was morally in the right?

I don't know Washington law, but I believe that security agents for a business do have the right to hold someone who has stolen from them, until police arrive, and can use reasonable force to do so.

There is no question that the girl stole the candy. She admitted this in the video.

[Wiganer]

Wonder if they would have been as enthusiastic in their restraint/manhandling if the perp wasn't a teenage girl in cut off shorts.

[LegallyNonBindingPosts]

massive stupidity all around

mom seems to know maybe too much law. hard to think they can not detain just because she made it outside. what the hell, is the parking lot a get away free zone.

guards could have straight off picked her up by arms and legs and carried her into their office the way its supposed to happen

travesty if guys are punished for skinned knee. how many times did u scrape yourself like that before age 12?

its such a minor incident, impossible for moral judgement

[Tellafriend]

How laughable. They can detain. Had she not resisted then it wouldn't have escalated. The bitch with the cell phone should eat a dick.

[LarryLaffer]

So I originally thought they are not allowed to follow you.

but according to this guy

You won't be able to get your case dismissed on the basis of the loss prevention guy following. There's no law against a shopkeeper or its staff from following a suspected shoplifter, not in Kentucky or any state. It doesn't matter if they follow you for miles or plan a stake out to watch you, if they suspect that you stole from them, they are perfectly within their rights to follow you. This type of action happens a lot, especially when the suspect has left the scene. The reason is because they can keep track of the suspect until the cops arrive.

The only way you can possible get this case dismissed without plea bargaining for a deal, is by a lack of evidence. Since the video doesn't actually show you taking the earrings, that's good for your case. However, if the earrings were found on you, that video would likely lend credence to the fact that you stole the video. If you decided to take the case all the way to trial, you probably won't win if this is the case.

The better and easier plan is to plea bargain out. Generally, it will just result in a fine and maybe some community service (especially since your theft was just a misdemeanor).

I do think however, that some stores like Walmart have policies about not following people into the parking lots.

[Jayjami]

The problem with detaining the suspect before he leaves the store is that it is difficult to prove intent to steal. Security can use reasonable force to stop the shoplifter, at least in California.

[big dick]

two fucking retards tackling and manhandling some kid for stealing a nestle crunch bar

[LarryLaffer]

two fucking retards tackling and manhandling some kid for stealing a nestle crunch bar

she got a skinned knee bro. those are killer

[cmoney]

How laughable. They can detain. Had she not resisted then it wouldn't have escalated. The bitch with the cell phone should eat a dick.

dont steal shit

[big dick]

two fucking retards tackling and manhandling some kid for stealing a nestle crunch bar

she got a skinned knee bro. those are killer

just putting their hands on her like that is bullshit esp considering all she did was steal some candy.
Two faggots imo
And of course she is in the wrong and shouldn't be stealing but 15 year old kids do stupid shit sometimes

[cmoney]

she got a skinned knee bro. those are killer

just putting their hands on her like that is bullshit esp considering all she did was steal some candy.
Two faggots imo
And of course she is in the wrong and shouldn't be stealing but 15 year old kids do stupid shit sometimes

For sure. Are there any bigger losers in life than rent a cops and TSA employees?

[big dick]

just putting their hands on her like that is bullshit esp considering all she did was steal some candy.
Two faggots imo
And of course she is in the wrong and shouldn't be stealing but 15 year old kids do stupid shit sometimes

For sure. Are there any bigger losers in life than rent a cops and TSA employees?

Nope

[simpdog]

For sure. Are there any bigger losers in life than rent a cops and TSA employees?

Nope

Other than a handful of PFA posters, no.

[Tellafriend]

she got a skinned knee bro. those are killer

just putting their hands on her like that is bullshit esp considering all she did was steal some candy.
Two faggots imo
And of course she is in the wrong and shouldn't be stealing but 15 year old kids do stupid shit sometimes

and if she were stealing money from you, would you have the same cavalier attitude?

[cmoney]

I would actually laugh if the lady recording this got shot. What a massive cunt. Imagine being married to that creature.

[Tegnation22]

These guys seemed very aggressive but guess what....

Don't steal and you won't be put in these situations.

[hongkonger]

just putting their hands on her like that is bullshit esp considering all she did was steal some candy.
Two faggots imo
And of course she is in the wrong and shouldn't be stealing but 15 year old kids do stupid shit sometimes

For sure. Are there any bigger losers in life than rent a cops and TSA employees?

HR departments give them a run for their money

[ToasterOven]

These are the kinds of guys that fail police tests for psych reasons.

If princess doesn't want a skinned knee, she should put the "b" is subtle.

[GrenadaRoger]

two fucking retards tackling and manhandling some kid for stealing a nestle crunch bar

as a former employee of the Chocolate & Confections Division of Nestle USA, I would accept an insanity plea by the suspect for stealing a Crunch bar

[big dick]

two fucking retards tackling and manhandling some kid for stealing a nestle crunch bar

as a former employee of the Chocolate & Confections Division of Nestle USA, I would accept an insanity plea by the suspect for stealing a Crunch bar

they are tasty


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