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    Black chip poker ddos attack

    I was playing a tournament last night on Black Chip poker and a message popped up saying tournament was paused by the site. Ten minutes later it said they were experiencing DDOS attacks aimed at their server and that the tournament was cancelled. Immediately after that I get a pop up saying my computer was infected by the Zeus virus and that I needed to call some 800 number to get it removed or my hard drive will be erased. A anti malware program easily removed it. Just an fyi

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    Quote Originally Posted by hutmaster View Post
    I was playing a tournament last night on Black Chip poker and a message popped up saying tournament was paused by the site. Ten minutes later it said they were experiencing DDOS attacks aimed at their server and that the tournament was cancelled. Immediately after that I get a pop up saying my computer was infected by the Zeus virus and that I needed to call some 800 number to get it removed or my hard drive will be erased. A anti malware program easily removed it. Just an fyi
    That sounds very suspicious. I have never heard of any kind of site or service that gets hit with a ddos and, as it is happening, alerts their users with exact detail about what is happening. Do you happen to have a screenshot of the message from Black Chip or any subsequent emails from them?

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    if someone tagged black chip poker and used its auto-update to push zeus to all running clients, a) it would look like a ddos because you know they dont know what the fuck a ddos is, and b) wowwwwwwwwwwwwwww.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    if someone tagged black chip poker and used its auto-update to push zeus to all running clients, a) it would look like a ddos because you know they dont know what the fuck a ddos is, and b) wowwwwwwwwwwwwwww.
    But what kind of operation creates a bulk communication that goes directly to users to alert them of a DDOS, as it is happening. Usually that is something that is determined post-mortum, or at least communicated with more discretion for reputation sake...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GringoStar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    if someone tagged black chip poker and used its auto-update to push zeus to all running clients, a) it would look like a ddos because you know they dont know what the fuck a ddos is, and b) wowwwwwwwwwwwwwww.
    But what kind of operation creates a bulk communication that goes directly to users to alert them of a DDOS, as it is happening. Usually that is something that is determined post-mortum, or at least communicated with more discretion for reputation sake...
    I'm guessing the impetus there was 'we need to cancel our tournaments until we figure out whats going on here'.

    Totally realistic narrative, btw:

    [BCP engineer #1] fuck me to tears we just found malware and IoC on pretty much the entirety of our infrastructure.

    [BCP engineer #2] wow, I'll load up a ton of sloppy ass anti-virus shit and tip off the actors who likely already dumped our CC#s and PII and are currently raping people at poker tables by godmoding peoples hands.

    [Team China] ugh these fucking nerds are shutting us out, meh... lets just use auto-update to push Zeus to their clients and call it a day lol.

    [BCP manager] UHH... UHHH...... SOMEONE IS PUSHING A ROGUE UPDATE WITH ZEUS IN IT FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK... SEND OUT AN ALERT ABOUT A DDOS AND UNPLUG EVERYTHING

     
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    one can easily substitute Team China for insider threat there of course.
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    Are there any reports about the Zeus virus popping up at the same time of this "DDoS"?

    I agree that it likely seems related (and sonatine's theory probably isn't too far off), but it could also be a coincidence.

    And yeah, if hackers hijacked the update process, that's realllllllllly bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hutmaster View Post
    I was playing a tournament last night on Black Chip poker and a message popped up saying tournament was paused by the site. Ten minutes later it said they were experiencing DDOS attacks aimed at their server and that the tournament was cancelled. Immediately after that I get a pop up saying my computer was infected by the Zeus virus and that I needed to call some 800 number to get it removed or my hard drive will be erased. A anti malware program easily removed it. Just an fyi
    That sounds very suspicious. I have never heard of any kind of site or service that gets hit with a ddos and, as it is happening, alerts their users with exact detail about what is happening. Do you happen to have a screenshot of the message from Black Chip or any subsequent emails from them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hutmaster View Post
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    That sounds very suspicious. I have never heard of any kind of site or service that gets hit with a ddos and, as it is happening, alerts their users with exact detail about what is happening. Do you happen to have a screenshot of the message from Black Chip or any subsequent emails from them?
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    Seems like it may be legitimate. WPN apparently has a long history of successful DDoS attacks. They also have a history of being oddly transparent about the attacks, in a supposed effort to avoid overlay and to restore confidence with promises of increased security.

    My only alterations of sonatine's theory:

    1) They went in with some sort of multi-vector attack, but actually originally intended to push Zeus to all active clients. WPN has had past extortion attempts for BTC during DDoS attacks in the past, but they were aimed at WPN for a bulk sum, instead of leveraging the users directly. Probably just a lame attempt to extort the userbase. But who knows, maybe some people paid up.

    2) Given my above assumption, this smells more like borscht than chow mein, given their predilection for sleazy ransomware.

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    This isn't the first time they've claimed to be attacker by DDOS attacks.

    It seems to happen prior to or during a big series they're running. Their "online super series (OSS" starts on 4/9.

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    its also strange that anyone with the technical aptitude to create this sort of opportunity would push something as obvious and opsec-hostile as Zeus.

    to be clear; thats really, really, really fucking strange.

    and lends itself to the theory that this was an disgruntled employee.

    or, alternately, that they successfully pushed a stealthy dropper, and that the dropper pushed zeus as a 'first phase' attack, knowing that X % of machines will discover Zeus but not the dropper, and that the Zeus infected hosts, few tho they may be, can be sold off for a premium while less robust malware can be placed on the other dropper infected hosts and used for other purposes.

    just #gametheory but you get the idea.
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