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    Took one of each. Bitcoin?

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    Druff can I get 1 more share apiece will send tommorrow $130.66 if not sold out. ty

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    Sorry, I am SOLD OUT, and in fact allowed a little too much to sell for what I wanted.

    Fortunately I'm not TJ Cloutier, and did not sell over 100% of myself. But I meant to sell 40% and ended up selling a bit more than that.

    If you already reserved shares via Tasty Stakes, I will honor that and let you pay for them. Otherwise, I cannot accept any purchases at this time.

    Thanks to everyone for your interest.

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    FYI, I have added Event 19D $365 NL Holdem (The Giant) on June 30th at 7pm to my schedule.

    However, I will NOT be selling pieces of this one (too small to bother).

    I will still play the $888 one no matter what, because it has several flights.

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    As I mentioned before I sat down to the $3k Limit Holdem event, I was dealing with a difficult family emergency which was likely to make me late for the event.

    I mitigated this by getting the floor staff to agree to "suspend" my registration, thus allowing me to start the event late with a full stack. I missed about the first 90 minutes of Day 1, started with a full stack, and then ran it up quickly to the chip lead. Experienced players will tell you that missing the first 90 minutes of a limit event is meaningless, if you start with a full stack (which I did). Therefore, I did not feel like I lost any equity by starting late, and thus felt okay about still playing the event. Indeed, some top players actually CHOOSE to register late, for this reason.

    However, while I thought the problem was solved, it wasn't. It got worse, and I was woken up by troubling news at about 11:00am on Day 2 of the tournament. The situation had gotten worse, not better, and I had to spend a lot of time resolving it. Unfortunately, I arrived 33 minutes late to Day 2, and some of my chips had blinded off. I felt terrible about this -- both for myself and for the backers. I really wanted to win this event, and showing up 33 minutes late to Day 2 decreased my chances of doing so. I then lost just about every hand, and was out of the event quickly.

    At this point, I had to decide what to do about the backers. I never had this situation before, as I have always shown up on time for Day 2 and beyond in all events I've played. Clearly they lost some equity by my late appearance on Day 2, but how much? How much of a refund for backers was fair?

    I decided I would take a day or so to think about this, and then notify all backers privately about my decision.

    Unfortunately, a cowardly Twitter troll -- one who apparently witnessed me come in late -- decided to anonymously harass me about the situation about 4 hours after I busted. This hastened my decision as to how to handle this, and also forced me to make a statement about this in public, rather than just informing the backers about this quietly, as I had originally planned.

    As there is no actual way to determine the equity lost, I decided the classiest thing to do in this situation was simply to refund everyone's stake for that event in full (including markup). This essentially gave everyone a freeroll -- where they would have gotten paid in full had I cashed, and they get a full refund since I did not cash. Showing up on time was my responsibility, and even though my late appearance was due to an emergency, that was my own problem to bear, and my backers should not have to suffer for it.

    It appears that the situation is finally solved, and there should be no issue with the two upcoming events I will be playing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    As I mentioned before I sat down to the $3k Limit Holdem event, I was dealing with a difficult family emergency which was likely to make me late for the event.

    I mitigated this by getting the floor staff to agree to "suspend" my registration, thus allowing me to start the event late with a full stack. I missed about the first 90 minutes of Day 1, started with a full stack, and then ran it up quickly to the chip lead. Experienced players will tell you that missing the first 90 minutes of a limit event is meaningless, if you start with a full stack (which I did). Therefore, I did not feel like I lost any equity by starting late, and thus felt okay about still playing the event. Indeed, some top players actually CHOOSE to register late, for this reason.

    However, while I thought the problem was solved, it wasn't. It got worse, and I was woken up by troubling news at about 11:00am on Day 2 of the tournament. The situation had gotten worse, not better, and I had to spend a lot of time resolving it. Unfortunately, I arrived 33 minutes late to Day 2, and some of my chips had blinded off. I felt terrible about this -- both for myself and for the backers. I really wanted to win this event, and showing up 33 minutes late to Day 2 decreased my chances of doing so. I then lost just about every hand, and was out of the event quickly.

    At this point, I had to decide what to do about the backers. I never had this situation before, as I have always shown up on time for Day 2 and beyond in all events I've played. Clearly they lost some equity by my late appearance on Day 2, but how much? How much of a refund for backers was fair?

    I decided I would take a day or so to think about this, and then notify all backers privately about my decision.

    Unfortunately, a cowardly Twitter troll -- one who apparently witnessed me come in late -- decided to anonymously harass me about the situation about 4 hours after I busted. This hastened my decision as to how to handle this, and also forced me to make a statement about this in public, rather than just informing the backers about this quietly, as I had originally planned.

    As there is no actual way to determine the equity lost, I decided the classiest thing to do in this situation was simply to refund everyone's stake for that event in full (including markup). This essentially gave everyone a freeroll -- where they would have gotten paid in full had I cashed, and they get a full refund since I did not cash. Showing up on time was my responsibility, and even though my late appearance was due to an emergency, that was my own problem to bear, and my backers should not have to suffer for it.

    It appears that the situation is finally solved, and there should be no issue with the two upcoming events I will be playing.
    That is very generous of you. Probably overly generous but erring on the side of overly generous when investors are involved is a good practice and brings future returns.

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    Somehow I missed the whole younwere late thing..... dont worry about it For my one share. Keep it.

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    Package #1
    6/12 Event #24 $1500 Limit Holdem - DID NOT CASH (stone bubble!)
    6/13 Event #25 $1000 PLO - DID NOT PLAY -- WILL REFUND $6/SHARE
    6/16 Event #32 $1500 Mixed Omaha 8 (PLO8/O8/Big O) - DID NOT CASH
    6/17 Event #33 $1500 NL Holdem* - DID NOT CASH
    6/27 Event #53 $3000 Limit Holdem 6-Max - DID NOT CASH, REFUNDING ANYWAY ($18/SHARE) BECAUSE I WAS LATE TO DAY 2
    6/30 Event #58 $1500 NL Holdem - DID NOT CASH
    7/01 Event #60B $888 Crazy Eights NL Holdem 8-handed (Bullet 1) - CASHED $3164 -- $15.82 PER SHARE PAYOUT
    7/02 Event #60C $888 Crazy Eights NL Holdem 8-handed (Bullet 2) - DID NOT PLAY -- WILL REFUND $5.33/SHARE


    Package #2
    6/19 Event #38 $10,000 Limit Holdem - DID NOT CASH

    The bolded events are the ones where you will get paid something. I will post totals later.

    Package #1 will get $45.15 per share. Recall that a share is 0.5%, so if you owned the maximum (4%), you will get 8 times that.

    Package #2 will get $0, as I failed to cash in the only event.

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    Here is the money owed to everyone:

    Willing2Die $135.46
    simpdog $180.61
    Daly $45.15
    handicapme $361.22
    handicapme's girlfriend $90.30
    belly buster $90.30
    Pooh $180.60
    442xx $45.15
    Dicepops $90.30
    GambleBotsChafedPenis $45.15
    mulhs82 $45.15
    mdj1980 $90.30
    system.out.println $180.61
    snowtracks $45.15
    DutchDoDo $45.15
    tradershky $180.61
    Vintage_One $180.61
    1marley1 $90.30
    john stamos $90.30
    NorCalSports $90.30
    PAINLESSWON $180.61
    khalwat $361.22 ($100 already paid)
    CarlB $361.22
    Tellafriend $361.22
    Malibu Elyse $45.15
    P4Pres $45.15
    50Cinquanta $45.15

    Please PM me regarding the way you want to be paid.

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    Hi everyone.

    I will be very busy in the coming days, and may not have time to make these payments. I have received a number of your PMs, and will get to them in the order received, and will ship out the $ as soon as possible.

    Fortunately (unfortunately?), there isn't a lot of money involved, so I'm sure nobody is too worried.

    Perhaps I am super-busto and am stalling until I can roll someone for the money to pay everyone here.

    Either way, you will have to wait and see.

    Thank you for your understanding. I will update the above list as I pay people.

     
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    Hi Druff,

    Hope your feeling better.
    Can you send me to my pay pal.

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    List of money owed. If PAID is listed after the name, that person has been paid. Otherwise, they have not. I will update this as it changes.

    Updated 9/26/17, 1:30pm

    Willing2Die $135.46 - PAID
    simpdog $180.61 - PAID
    Daly $45.15 - PAID
    handicapme $361.22 - PAID/PARTIALLY DONATED
    handicapme's girlfriend $90.30 - PAID
    belly buster $90.30 - PAID/PARTIALLY DONATED
    Pooh $180.60
    442xx $45.15
    Dicepops $90.30 - PAID
    GambleBotsChafedPenis $45.15 - PAID
    mulhs82 $45.15 - PAID
    mdj1980 $90.30 - PAID
    system.out.println $180.61
    snowtracks $45.15 - PAID
    DutchDoDo $45.15 - DONATED TO SITE
    tradershky $180.61 - PAID
    Vintage_One $180.61
    1marley1 $90.30 - PAID
    john stamos $90.30
    NorCalSports $90.30
    PAINLESSWON $180.61
    khalwat $361.22 - PAID
    CarlB $361.22
    Tellafriend $361.22 - PAID
    Malibu Elyse $45.15 - DONATED TO FREEROLL
    P4Pres $45.15 - PAID
    50Cinquanta $45.15 - PAID

    ===

    The following 6 people were rolled over to 2018, at their request

    Pooh $180.60
    442xx $45.15
    CarlB $361.22
    john stamos $90.30
    NorCalSports $90.30
    Vintage_One $180.61

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