It's all kicking off here. In the vicinity but safe. Reports atm of 12 down and 2 dead.
It's all kicking off here. In the vicinity but safe. Reports atm of 12 down and 2 dead.
this is being reported on cnn so it's either fake news or he could be brown
Definitely a lone wolf Islamic job. Possibly HOPEFULLY only one woman killed.
We were overdue an attack and today it came. Thankfully we're an island and have sensible gun control laws so only damage he could do was with his vehicle and knife.
MI5/6 are best of the best. Was a helluva run we've had before today happened. And other than the car he was driving. The most dangerous weapon the cunt could muster up was a fucking kitchen knife.
Pic of the terrorist who was shot by police.
Think we can rule out the IRA
Last edited by GrenadaRoger; 03-22-2017 at 09:08 AM.
(long before there was a PFA i had my Grenade & Crossbones avatar at DD)
The organizing principle of any society is for war.
There are unfortunately deaths as a result of war, especially if terrorists use human shields or hide among civilians.
I can understand your raising issue with this, but you can't call it terrorism.
These type of arguments come from the left in order to humanize the Islamic terrorists.
"Sure, these terrorists are bad, but our government is guilty of the same sort of thing in a different way, so you can't hate them for it."
I don't equate them but the collateral damage makes it counterproductive. To the victims and their families the distinction is immaterial.
ISIS is not the root of the problem. Islam isn't the root of the problem. Islam is being used to dupe otherwise poor, helpless people into sacrificing themselves on behalf of the people who are really in control over there. To overcome the problem that whole region of the world will have to be brought into the 21st century, which is not going to be achieved with bombs. I'm not sure how it can be done or if we are capable, but I know this isn't the way.
I do know that the way is going to involve educating and empowering the women of the Muslim world, and to do that we are going to need the assistance of all the moderate and progressive Muslims we can possibly enlist to our cause, and that means not insulting them and lumping them in with the extremists.
HILLARY WON
You are smart enough (I think) to follow a cause and effect argument.
The US is trying to regain control of regions of the world they have lost control of. The people they kill in order to retain control get a bit pissed off. The act of bombing their schools, hospitals, civilian buildings really doesn't make things any better. The more you marginalize Muslims the more they will defend themselves. Just like Vietnam, there is no way to control the middle east via bombing. Just get the fuck out and let them sort it out. You lost. Oil is not the future anyhow. Quit listening to your war industrial complex. Build up your own country instead of tearing apart other countries.
obviously i havent read this thread thoroughly because its garbage, but druff im not sure you really understand what a drone strike is like.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/opini...rticle9707992/
im actually pro-drone strikes because they are, without question, the best option on the table for this current theaters but honestly, this shit is going to come back on us.
real soon.
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