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    Quote Originally Posted by lewfather View Post
    LOL was just reading in the 2p2 thread that some people called racener's boss at the hardrock and got him fired as poker ambassador and possibly banned for life over this lol
    that's fucking fantastic! these guys are fucking dipshits of epic proportion...so a degen fish goes on the heater of a lifetime and beats them outta $500K...why the fuck not just give the fish $100K, slow pay him on the $400K and wait for him to dust off the $100K until he starts taking off markers on the $400 you owe him...youre telling me that all of a sudden this guy is gonna have a come to jesus moment when he has that kinda money? not gonna fucking happen...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GambleBotsChafedPenis View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by lewfather View Post
    LOL was just reading in the 2p2 thread that some people called racener's boss at the hardrock and got him fired as poker ambassador and possibly banned for life over this lol
    that's fucking fantastic! these guys are fucking dipshits of epic proportion...so a degen fish goes on the heater of a lifetime and beats them outta $500K...why the fuck not just give the fish $100K, slow pay him on the $400K and wait for him to dust off the $100K until he starts taking off markers on the $400 you owe him...youre telling me that all of a sudden this guy is gonna have a come to jesus moment when he has that kinda money? not gonna fucking happen...
    Also it looks like this guy has video footage of Racener operating illegal gambling operations during his run up, if he turns that over it could be multiple felonies. These dipshits should have done something other than completely stiffing this guy.

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    They had been friends for a long time before this too. The guy that got scammed is the guy on Racener's rail shouting out "black 2" and "5 of clubs". Racener even gives him props on camera 46:00



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    Quote Originally Posted by Brittney Griner's Clit View Post
    They had been friends for a long time before this too. The guy that got scammed is the guy on Racener's rail shouting out "black 2" and "5 of clubs". Racener even gives him props on camera 46:00


    Doubt they considered him a friend. These kind of guys don't really have real friends. More likely just mark who they were fleecing, until he actually won for once.

    Seems like this zima guy's m.o. is to gamble with guys who have less than perfect reputations in poker, then if they beat him, use their reputations as an excuse to not pay them. Sounds like Racener is a well known scumbag on the Tampa poker scene who stiffs people on sports bets regularly.

    What an incredible thread that is. Would be hilarious if those morons end up getting arrested because of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lewfather View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GambleBotsChafedPenis View Post

    that's fucking fantastic! these guys are fucking dipshits of epic proportion...so a degen fish goes on the heater of a lifetime and beats them outta $500K...why the fuck not just give the fish $100K, slow pay him on the $400K and wait for him to dust off the $100K until he starts taking off markers on the $400 you owe him...youre telling me that all of a sudden this guy is gonna have a come to jesus moment when he has that kinda money? not gonna fucking happen...
    Also it looks like this guy has video footage of Racener operating illegal gambling operations during his run up, if he turns that over it could be multiple felonies. These dipshits should have done something other than completely stiffing this guy.
    wow that sounds like a game over right there...wondering if its a big enough operation to get the feds interested...

    amazing you can live in the poker world and be so fucking terrible at reading people...you never fuck with somebody who has nothing to lose...they don't give a rats ass...they'll burn that shit to the ground in a minute...

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by GambleBotsChafedPenis View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by lewfather View Post

    Also it looks like this guy has video footage of Racener operating illegal gambling operations during his run up, if he turns that over it could be multiple felonies. These dipshits should have done something other than completely stiffing this guy.
    wow that sounds like a game over right there...wondering if its a big enough operation to get the feds interested...

    amazing you can live in the poker world and be so fucking terrible at reading people...you never fuck with somebody who has nothing to lose...they don't give a rats ass...they'll burn that shit to the ground in a minute...
    I would go straight to the FBI or any other agency that would listen to my story and take the whole fucking thing down. It's not even the money it's the principal behind it, you're correct you do not fuck with someone who has nothing to lose. You also don't fuck around pissing people off that can burn you in a minute. I heard a story once about a group of people that had stolen a shit ton of money and got away with it and it would never be traced back to them. One of the guys pissed off his girlfriend because she wanted a little bit of money for something and he told her to go fuck herself....they are all in prison now

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by GambleBotsChafedPenis View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by lewfather View Post

    Also it looks like this guy has video footage of Racener operating illegal gambling operations during his run up, if he turns that over it could be multiple felonies. These dipshits should have done something other than completely stiffing this guy.
    wow that sounds like a game over right there...wondering if its a big enough operation to get the feds interested...

    amazing you can live in the poker world and be so fucking terrible at reading people...you never fuck with somebody who has nothing to lose...they don't give a rats ass...they'll burn that shit to the ground in a minute...
    Obv I don't know his financial situation but he doesn't seem like an overly wealthy person, just a true degenerate with children. So you're going to stiff this guy out of serious cash, try and bang him out of as much freeroll money as possible and when he rips off a heater you don't pay and also get him fired from work for wanting his money? He's already admitted that he has given up on collecting even a dime out of these guys but now just wants everyone to hear the story so they can't scam another whale/degen. He could easily go to the sheriffs department, fl gaming or the FBI with this story and documentation and ruin these guys lives like they tried to do to him.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by lewfather View Post
    These dipshits should have done something other than completely stiffing this guy.
    These idiots don't know how to run a casino. If a guy comes into your underground casino with $20,000, you gotta grind him to death...especially in a low house edge game like blackjack. I wonder if these jackasses did the reverse martingale and kept increasing his max bet limit as the heater continued.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by snake_in_the_ass View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by lewfather View Post
    These dipshits should have done something other than completely stiffing this guy.
    These idiots don't know how to run a casino. If a guy comes into your underground casino with $20,000, you gotta grind him to death...especially in a low house edge game like blackjack. I wonder if these jackasses did the reverse martingale and kept increasing his max bet limit as the heater continued.


    They thought there was no way he could get lucky enough to run it up to something big, and even if he did, they could get him fucked up enough to where he would lose it back.

    Then that didn't happen and now nobody seems to want to pay.


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    But yeah he should go to law enforcement, and I'm going to encourage him to do that tonight on radio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    But yeah he should go to law enforcement, and I'm going to encourage him to do that tonight on radio.
    Please ask him what the betting limits were and if they were incrementally raised as the heater continued.

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    After reading the entire 2+2 thread, and listening to Limon, Larry and PFA radio, I am 100% certain he's telling the truth.

    Law enforcement wont do anything less Marc becomes the star witness and spills the beans. Sure their reputation has been hurt, but it will just blow over less you go to law enforcement. You should threaten these fuckers with "pay me or I'm filing a complaint"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salty_Aus View Post
    After reading the entire 2+2 thread, and listening to Limon, Larry and PFA radio, I am 100% certain he's telling the truth.

    Law enforcement wont do anything less Marc becomes the star witness and spills the beans. Sure their reputation has been hurt, but it will just blow over less you go to law enforcement. You should threaten these fuckers with "pay me or I'm filing a complaint"
    Probably nothing happens to them legally. The reputation stuff will probably hurt this zima guy more than anybody. Him and Racener seem the scummiest, and Zima always held himself up as a moral authority in the community. In every thread about a scammer Zima was always on page 1 destroying the accused scammer.

     
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    More evidence to add to the pile.

    Racener just made his Twitter private!

    Lol

    Also someone from 2p2 called Hard Rock and they said Racener has been 86'd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SetofKs View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Salty_Aus View Post
    After reading the entire 2+2 thread, and listening to Limon, Larry and PFA radio, I am 100% certain he's telling the truth.

    Law enforcement wont do anything less Marc becomes the star witness and spills the beans. Sure their reputation has been hurt, but it will just blow over less you go to law enforcement. You should threaten these fuckers with "pay me or I'm filing a complaint"
    Probably nothing happens to them legally. The reputation stuff will probably hurt this zima guy more than anybody. Him and Racener seem the scummiest, and Zima always held himself up as a moral authority in the community. In every thread about a scammer Zima was always on page 1 destroying the accused scammer.
    I don't think it's worth going to a lawyer and trying to get paid this way, gambling debts like this are near impossible to legally collect less you have something in writing.

    On the other hand if Marc goes to local law enforcement, IRS and/or the FBI these guys are in a lot of trouble.
    They are running an illegal bookmaking operation, or they are merely the pawns in a much larger operation in which they get kick-backs from those who are really running the operation.
    They've been running an illegal blackjack game in their homes, not just a penny and dimes but very high limits. The consequences of this I believe go further then just fines or jail time, I believe forfeiture of the homes they've been playing in could also be a consequence. (not certain on this but I think they can seize property)
    Supplying drugs is another minor consideration and I'm quite sure the IRS will be all over them, highly likely the legitimate business they own are a means to launder money.

    I'm really not the type to ever go to the cops, it just goes against my grain. But these fuckers deserve it.
    Of course if Marc does go to LE he will never get paid, and he might incriminate himself to some degree, but I'm quite certain they will cut a deal with him and he will not be prosecuted for snorting caterpillars or other minor offences.
    Most importantly if he cooperates they will surely have a very strong case, and once they do stuff like get access to all these guys text messages they're fucked, also the guys from the card room and other witnesses like the guy with Marc would make it stronger, even small things like ATM records from the ATM underneath is it Paul's apartment?... will just make the evidence even stronger.
    If he doesn't go to LE this will all just blow away I reckon, he might get paid but I doubt it.

    If you want to get paid Marc, meet these guys and tell them "face to face" I want my money or I'm going to do everything I can to see you ruined. (definitely don't do it via text or online)
    Tell them you want $200k within a week and a signed document detailing they owe the rest, along with a payment plan. Also tell them as soon as you receive the $200k that the post on 2+2 will be deleted and you will say "everything has been settled it was all just a big misunderstanding"

    Also telling them this is a pretty good bluff, even if you don't really intend to follow through with it.
    Think they will take the chance of their lives being totally ruined?

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    Anyone who thinks these guys would go to jail over this is a moron. That is pretty much all of 2+2. Winnings form an underground casino will never be recognized as an actual debt the courts and Marc will get $0. As far as running the underground casino, they would pay a fine at worst. Did Howard and Jesus go to jail for running for a ponzi scheme? NO. Nobody is going to jail folks. Wake up.

     
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    Comparing this to full tilt is tenuous at best.

    Do a simple Google search for "illegal casino bust" or "illegal bookmaking bust" and see how hard they come down on folks.
    $10,000 or $20,000 maximum bet is hardly a misdemeanour, the feds love these types of cases because they can sieze lots of assets and cash.

    You're wrong, they're in deep shit if Marc cooperates with LE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salty_Aus View Post
    Comparing this to full tilt is tenuous at best.

    Do a simple Google search for "illegal casino bust" or "illegal bookmaking bust" and see how hard they come down on folks.
    $10,000 or $20,000 maximum bet is hardly a misdemeanour, the feds love these types of cases because they can sieze lots of assets and cash.

    You're wrong, they're in deep shit if Marc cooperates with LE.
    The govt is not going to get involved unless they can do a money grab. There is no money to grab in this case. Those illegal bookmaking busts you found on google are huge national and sometimes global operations.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by snake_in_the_ass View Post
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    Comparing this to full tilt is tenuous at best.

    Do a simple Google search for "illegal casino bust" or "illegal bookmaking bust" and see how hard they come down on folks.
    $10,000 or $20,000 maximum bet is hardly a misdemeanour, the feds love these types of cases because they can sieze lots of assets and cash.

    You're wrong, they're in deep shit if Marc cooperates with LE.
    The govt is not going to get involved unless they can do a money grab. There is no money to grab in this case. Those illegal bookmaking busts you found on google are huge national and sometimes global operations.
    The thing is though, if Marc gives them everything on a plate it's a simple case for them really. And what are the total assets of these guys involved? They will take the Bentley and the houses, and the more they look the more they will find. Just the illegal casino stuff alone is big trouble, on the bookmaking side of things there could be a lot more involved if they're laying bets off with others or part of a bigger syndicate.

    If Marc does nothing I agree they will get away with it, but if he gives them up they are fucked no doubt.

    Do any of these guys have real jobs? The businesses are probably a good way to avoid tax and after they do four years they will be left with nothing and still owe the IRS tax.
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