Greetings to all. I had created this thread a while back on the 2p2 forum. I would like to post this on the forum for you guys to take a look at. Now I know this subforum is for scams, scandals and shadiness.
Basically the issue here is pokerstars is not taking action against certain players from the same country who softplay one another.
Here is the original thread.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/61...03/?highlight=
My thread here is updated from the one above.
I will update this thread now but also post all the relevant information here again. I am however posting this thread due to pokerstars not taking any action on these poland players softplaying. So head of security, you are welcome to answer questions from other players on this issue and post here.
Many of the Poland players are softplaying each other and basically colliding in 180 mans and those satellites for a while now. If you play any satellites or 180 mans and there are at least 2 Poland players there, just watch out for them. I have spoken to many players about this and most of them agree there is collusion/softplaying going on but they know stars isn't doing anything about it due to their broken anti-collusion policy. I will discuss that in a bit.
The other reason for this thread is the original thread there was a lot of posts going all over the place so most posters who read it would not be able to because it was not that organized and all over the place. A very well respected member on 2p2 forum mentioned to me via pm that there were many different posts all over everywhere and thus many viewers would only look over a few and then not look at it anymore because it wasn't very organized.
Revised Cliffs:
-Poland players softplay and collude with each other when a good situation arises. They play very hard against non-poland players. Basically prejudice play. This is done at satellite and 180 mans.
-Poland players with pretty much identical screennames and exact pfr/vpip stats. Playing style is very similar.
-Poland players going after the nonpole when shorthanded and avoiding big pots with one another.
-These players almost never play hard against each other early on in an 180 man. Rarely you see any of them even go all in preflop against one another for over 50bb. This is something that happen a lot yet very rare to see this with poland players.
-The players never play hard against each other unless its necessary especially at the end. Usually this is only done when they try to chop another players blinds so it's a win-win situation for a Pole. But also because this does not make it obvious as you have to bust a fellow poland player otherwise it would look really bad
-Poland player raise fellow Poland BB is pretty much their favorite move.
-The Poland 3bet Isolation Protection 3bet is another strategy they use and many don't notice it because no hole cards are revealed until they got caught doing this
-If in multiway pot, they will play like a tag-team and make sure one of them wins the pot. This is done by both betting or calling to get the non-poland player to fold. They will call out of position with weak hands on the flop if another fellow poland player is in the pot. Examples will be posted below this.
-If multiple poland players in a table, prepare to see many min raises when higher blind levels when a Poland player is in the BB to protect his fellow Pole. Once blinds get high, prepare to see many poland players min raising and 3bet isolate protecting each other.
-Poland Players will protect fellow comrade by shoving all in if they are in middle or late position if they notice non-poland players to act after them and their fellow Pole is in the BB
-Two Poland players created a 2p2 account within minutes and both posted they are in the 180 man contest. They both posted in the same exact format.
A bunch of poland players foolishly used the same avatar for 3 accounts. These accounts are related. A group of poland players who are active was confirmed by security to be related accounts.
-Poland players speak to one another via skype. Many poland players who don't even play these format somehow know about my thread
-Head of Security spoke to me a while back on this issue for a good while. We had a long discussion on this and it looked like something was going to be done. Their specialist then looked over everything and concluded there is no softplaying even though many hands i sent to them look very suspicious. They sent me a copy of 20 hands where poland players were all in against a fellow poland player to show look... they do play hard against one another. Almost all these hands were when poland players both had 15bb or less. Majority were all in and calls where both players had like 3bb-7bb where it was AK vs 77 or similar which is completely standard.
-Pokerstars has a broken anti-collusion system. Basically if 2 players softplay against one another, if there are just a few hands where they go all in even for 3bb... that is enough to say those players are not softplaying. A very important thing was discussed on the amount of times poland players would be all in against their fellow comrades vs nonpoles. I was told this cannot be looked at yet this is probably one of the most obvious things there is. A long time respected member on the 2p2 forum agreed with this and mentioned this to stars and stars did not want to look into this. The 2p2 member here agreed this is very important yet pokerstars did not want to look at this and this was dealt with satellites.
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