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    Bovada DD?


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    he's gonna have to grind the tables live again like the rest of us.

    LMK how that 40/80 at the commerce is
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    The only hope we have is if the sports betting fish we play against complain that they want a one stop shop with poker included and Bovada loses some action to sites that have this instead of separating the poker from the sports betting site.

    LOL at them saying it was acquired by Ignition Casino which they own. They are fooling nobody:

    https://www.ignitioncasino.eu

    RIP Bovada as we know it without tons of sports betting goons losing on there. If Bodog is the same pool of players without this happening then we will get a few donators still but it won't be the same.

    It looks as if the new site has some hefty fees for cashouts unless you use bitcoin. Some people on 2+2 are saying it's 3k max for bitcoin withdrawals which hopefully isn't the case but if it is then that makes this transition even more fucked.

    Not really sure what I'll do at this point except nothing until next month since we have until September 30th and I could give two shits about a welcome free roll ticket to migrate over early.

    Use all your Bovada poker points asap because for everyone who does go over they aren't transferable which is a bunch of shit because the company owners are clearly the same.

     
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      Shizzmoney: this is a move to fence off the US player pool. it's bad
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    I don't see anything about segregated player pools anywhere. Can someone link me to something Bovada said about segregating pools.

    In any event even if they did RINGFENCE USA players then that would not be a bad thing for USA players IMO.


    Lastly, this is probably just another renaming thing like when they went from Bodog to Bovada and now it is Ignition.

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    Its interesting because they claim Ignition uses the same platform but there is a lot of wiggle room there regarding whether or not they are going to maintain anonymous players etc.

    Because IIRC thats literally the only reason Druff plays there, and I doubt hes alone in that opinion.
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    the only reason he plays on bovada is because it's anonymous? Why would anyone want to play on anonymous if there are no fish/whales? I think most people tolerate the anonymous shit cus the games are good

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    Quote Originally Posted by big dick View Post
    the only reason he plays on bovada is because it's anonymous? Why would anyone want to play on anonymous if there are no fish/whales? I think most people tolerate the anonymous shit cus the games are good

    No one will sit with him, hes a legit winning player apparently.

    Being anonymous allows him to sit in ripe games without spooking the action.

    Im sure there are other reasons eg cashing in/out, US availability, but IIRC the crown jewel was no one can make him for a long term winner at the tables.
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    Actually on second thought, this is going to be very bad possibly

    Because most of the donators are probably sportsbook guys. And after September 30th they are going to have to deposit specifically for poker on ignition to play poker.


    Somehow my mind skipped past that when I read the email.


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by big dick View Post
    the only reason he plays on bovada is because it's anonymous? Why would anyone want to play on anonymous if there are no fish/whales? I think most people tolerate the anonymous shit cus the games are good

    No one will sit with him, hes a legit winning player apparently.

    Being anonymous allows him to sit in ripe games without spooking the action.

    Im sure there are other reasons eg cashing in/out, US availability, but IIRC the crown jewel was no one can make him for a long term winner at the tables.
    Makes sense. thanks

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    One other question, Does Ignition have a casino/sportsbook?

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    They are offering a $10 cash bonus now I see but at 1250 points which is LOL. Points typically have a 1 cent value for tourney tickets and a little better of a rate for sports which have a 3x roll over.

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    We are going to need a call from Chico Loco to Ignition Casino on radio this week to get the scoop on the changes, max you can deposit, max cashout, etc...

    New Article up on calvinayre.com is very vague. The writer makes it sound as if Bovada don't own this Ignition Casino but they ain't fooling me.

    http://calvinayre.com/2016/08/09/pok...-bovada-poker/

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinamaniac View Post
    One other question, Does Ignition have a casino/sportsbook?
    No sportsbook, and video poker/slots for the casino.

    I actually predict Bovada to move a good portion of the online casino offering over to ignition within the next 2 years or so.
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    A bit off topic but they had a segment about online gaming / poker on CNBC today which Jason Somerville was on.

    http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000541764

    I thought Jason spoke well but that hair makes him lose credibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker View Post
    A bit off topic but they had a segment about online gaming / poker on CNBC today which Jason Somerville was on.

    http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000541764

    I thought Jason spoke well but that hair makes him lose credibility.
    http://www.miraclecovers.com

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    I actually have mixed feelings about the anonymous tables. I like how they allow me to forget about who I'm playing and concentrate on pure poker. I sometimes ran into problems playing my best against players who were historically lucky or successful against me. Now I can't see who's who, so I play the same against everyone (until I adjust to them at the specific table from things I observe of their playstyle).

    Of course the downside to anon tables is the inability to immediately spot good games (or huge fish at the table), as well as the inability to detect cheating/superusing.

    But the main two reasons I play there:

    1) Sportsbook and casino fish in poker games
    2) Reliable cashouts for fairly large amounts of money

    So #1 is going away completely, and #2 is reducing.

    Bad, bad, bad.

    This might be the end of decent/good limit holdem games online in the US market.

    The only hope I see for the games remaining good is if they recruit new fish from other markets, such as China, and don't ringfence the US players from them.

    The only confirmation we have right now is that Bovada will be separating its sportsbook and casino from the poker, and the poker will be a separate site called Ignition (which pretends to be a separate company, but isn't).

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shizzmoney View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker View Post
    A bit off topic but they had a segment about online gaming / poker on CNBC today which Jason Somerville was on.

    http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000541764

    I thought Jason spoke well but that hair makes him lose credibility.
    So fucking standard. These religious fucks make me sick

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    I actually have mixed feelings about the anonymous tables. I like how they allow me to forget about who I'm playing and concentrate on pure poker. I sometimes ran into problems playing my best against players who were historically lucky or successful against me. Now I can't see who's who, so I play the same against everyone (until I adjust to them at the specific table from things I observe of their playstyle).

    Of course the downside to anon tables is the inability to immediately spot good games (or huge fish at the table), as well as the inability to detect cheating/superusing.

    But the main two reasons I play there:

    1) Sportsbook and casino fish in poker games
    2) Reliable cashouts for fairly large amounts of money

    So #1 is going away completely, and #2 is reducing.

    Bad, bad, bad.

    This might be the end of decent/good limit holdem games online in the US market.

    The only hope I see for the games remaining good is if they recruit new fish from other markets, such as China, and don't ringfence the US players from them.

    The only confirmation we have right now is that Bovada will be separating its sportsbook and casino from the poker, and the poker will be a separate site called Ignition (which pretends to be a separate company, but isn't).
    Apparently it's going to be u.s players only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big dick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    I actually have mixed feelings about the anonymous tables. I like how they allow me to forget about who I'm playing and concentrate on pure poker. I sometimes ran into problems playing my best against players who were historically lucky or successful against me. Now I can't see who's who, so I play the same against everyone (until I adjust to them at the specific table from things I observe of their playstyle).

    Of course the downside to anon tables is the inability to immediately spot good games (or huge fish at the table), as well as the inability to detect cheating/superusing.

    But the main two reasons I play there:

    1) Sportsbook and casino fish in poker games
    2) Reliable cashouts for fairly large amounts of money

    So #1 is going away completely, and #2 is reducing.

    Bad, bad, bad.

    This might be the end of decent/good limit holdem games online in the US market.

    The only hope I see for the games remaining good is if they recruit new fish from other markets, such as China, and don't ringfence the US players from them.

    The only confirmation we have right now is that Bovada will be separating its sportsbook and casino from the poker, and the poker will be a separate site called Ignition (which pretends to be a separate company, but isn't).
    Apparently it's going to be u.s players only.
    I keep seeing people say that, but where is the source for this?

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    I called bovada and that is what the cs guy told me. Who knows though.
    This is a fucking disaster

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