recreational weed question, possibly washington specific...

[sonatine]

is hash legal? as in, is it sold in recreational pot shops anyplace?

i dont mean this faggot dicked shatter or 'bubble hash', i mean honest to god hashish.

[sonatine]

to be clear, hashish arrests brought more severe penalties than marijuana possession/distribution charges for a long time, the laws pertaining to each were different iirc. so im curious if this weird quasi-legality extends to actual hashish.

considering shit like shatter is exponentially more powerful than hashish, i would expect it would be, but given that the traditional manufacture of hashish involved like, fucking kerosene and god knows what else, im hedging my bets hope-wise.

[lewfather]

dont know the law but i think that in michigan they stopped selling BHO and even edibles, i never saw hash there either though.

[NaturalBornHustler]

You can buy hash at a dispensary whether that be oil....pills...whatever.

Edit - In Colorado. Washington probably the same if I had to guess.

[Bootsy Collins]

[LarryLaffer]

yes it is.

I have friends in Seattle who run a dispensary. It is available

and it's amazing

[Jayjami]

Hash is still sold, but has been overtaken, at least in California, by the concentrates (wax, shatter, crumble). Back in the day there were only 3 true hash making areas: Afghanistan, Lebanon, and Morroco. Hash dominated the European market (such as the Dutch coffee shop scene), because it was much easier to smuggle. Then in the 90s, Amsterdam started growing the greatest indoor strains of all time (such as Super Silver Haze and Northern Lights), and hash became less dominant. You can still find good, authentic 'Moroc' in Europe, but I have not seen any in the states for a long time.

[sonatine]

Thank you for excellent responses, I think Jayjami's comment about how concentrates are 'in' and true 'Moroccan' style hash being something of a unicorn at this point rings truest.

I'll reach out to some local dispensaries but we all know that no matter how hard I try to explain my question, some mouthy cunt with gauge earrings and pierced cheekbones is going to insist that keef is 'true' hash etc etc.

[LarryLaffer]

re: concentrates

a new thing also is these hash oil pens. they look like blue ecigs and come in a variety of strains.


they're pretty clandestine. you can smoke them anywhere.

[sonatine]

You're killing your father, Larry.

[sonatine]

God.. I used to be able to get honest to christ blond lebanese hash.. fuck Im getting melancholy.

[gimmick]

If you get really nostalgic, just make your own. Almost all of the hash that's traditionally produced come from areas where the weed is grown outdoors and is mostly hermies. On their own the bud isn't potent and it's full off seeds. To fix that, they turn it to hash. It's also easier to store and transport in that form.

With local potent indoor feminized plants there's not really any reason to go out of your way to turn that into hash. But if you do out of some reason decide to turn your plants in to hash then water extraction is like 1/10 as labor intensive and the average end product is more potent than traditional market hash.

And yea if you care about transporting/storing then turning in to oil is the preferred method today.

If you can get kief you can just turn it to hash roughly like below...



...it's just x amount of pressure and x amount of heat for x time.

It's not what you used to smoke in that it's missing the adulterants that give more weight to the slab and you aren't likely to store it 3-24 months before smoking it, but it's essentially hash.

[gimmick]

Oh and kerosene is just a myth/propaganda. You don't need any solvents nor have any been commonly used to turn organic material into hash.

You can use a lot of different solvents to make hash oil though. Solvents that are commonly used today are the least toxic and/or hardest to fuck up. Butane is likely the easiest to use for small amounts. I don't know what is common for commercial production.

[sonatine]

People who have told me how 'real' hash is just compressed kief etc:

Literally dozens.


People who have been able to back this up by providing actual hash that actually tasted like the real actual hash I bought in my youth:

Holding fast at zero.

[sonatine]

Also, hash thread.

[lol wow]

Honestly with your thighs can you even afford weed jace

[gimmick]

People who have told me how 'real' hash is just compressed kief etc:

Literally dozens.


People who have been able to back this up by providing actual hash that actually tasted like the real actual hash I bought in my youth:

Holding fast at zero.

Could it possible be that those dozens of people knew what they were talking about? Possibly because the method of making hash hasn't changed all that much in over a 1000 years. The basics are the same and that is how you make real hash.

I have no idea what you smoked as a youth. I don't know the adulterants (some for bulk, others for flavor). I don't know how old it was on average. I don't know the original strains and i don't what was the common sieving of commercial hash at the time. These and a few other things affect the taste, smell, coarseness of the smoke, structure of the slab and potency.

If we were talking about music, your position would be that a single band was representative of the whole genre and everything that didn't sound the same as that one band couldn't possible be "real".

Euro's don't have any nostalgia regarding hash since that was 90% of everything we smoked before growing shit indoors became a lot easier. I've prob smoked a few kilos of Moroccan hash in my youth and it's still available.

[NaturalBornHustler]

People who have told me how 'real' hash is just compressed kief etc:

Literally dozens.


People who have been able to back this up by providing actual hash that actually tasted like the real actual hash I bought in my youth:

Holding fast at zero.

Could it possible be that those dozens of people knew what they were talking about? Possibly because the method of making hash hasn't changed all that much in over a 1000 years. The basics are the same and that is how you make real hash.

I have no idea what you smoked as a youth. I don't know the adulterants (some for bulk, others for flavor). I don't know how old it was on average. I don't know the original strains and i don't what was the common sieving of commercial hash at the time. These and a few other things affect the taste, smell, coarseness of the smoke, structure of the slab and potency.

If we were talking about music, your position would be that a single band was representative of the whole genre and everything that didn't sound the same as that one band couldn't possible be "real".

Euro's don't have any nostalgia regarding hash since that was 90% of everything we smoked before growing shit indoors became a lot easier. I've prob smoked a few kilos of Moroccan hash in my youth and it's still available.

All of that. People add all types of shit to hash to give it a different consistency or taste. Typically when something is added it will give it a more moist or gummy texture, vs a much drier version that a lot of people make today. I have heard of people adding tea, water, all types of shit to make the appearance/feel different. Blonde Lebanese was more of a drier lighter colored hash, while the darker more moist stuff came from Pakistan. Most people today have never seen this type of shit, most have the pressed/dry/heated/basic version. I used to get some of the Pakistani back in the day, but honestly I really didn't feel much difference from smoking weed so I wasn't really about it like that. Lot of my friends loved it, still do. I dunno.

[sonatine]

People who have told me how 'real' hash is just compressed kief etc:

Literally dozens.


People who have been able to back this up by providing actual hash that actually tasted like the real actual hash I bought in my youth:

Holding fast at zero.

Could it possible be that those dozens of people knew what they were talking about? Possibly because the method of making hash hasn't changed all that much in over a 1000 years. The basics are the same and that is how you make real hash.

I have no idea what you smoked as a youth. I don't know the adulterants (some for bulk, others for flavor). I don't know how old it was on average. I don't know the original strains and i don't what was the common sieving of commercial hash at the time. These and a few other things affect the taste, smell, coarseness of the smoke, structure of the slab and potency.

If we were talking about music, your position would be that a single band was representative of the whole genre and everything that didn't sound the same as that one band couldn't possible be "real".

Euro's don't have any nostalgia regarding hash since that was 90% of everything we smoked before growing shit indoors became a lot easier. I've prob smoked a few kilos of Moroccan hash in my youth and it's still available.

Well thats the thing isnt it, everyone in Europe _loves_ real hash. And there is clearly plenty of it. But in the states, for whatever reason, all we get is pressed kief because faggots who smell like patchouli and burlap want their drugs organic.

Points taken tho.

[FPS_Russia]

I thought dabs was the gold standard among weed aficionados. I don't know anything about dabs but i bet it's strong as fuck. A few years back i took a puff of reg or dirt weed, seemed pretty powerful to me.