Live poker vs. On line
I have a friend who will generally always lose on online poker MTT.
The occasional cash but over all loses. He plays all limits from $10 to $540 entries for online tournament, s.
But he cashes quite often at the borgada $250 daily live tournament, s.
What's the discrepancy???
Believe me he is no card shark.
Man good question thepartend, its about time someone stood up to the monkey worshipping libgoons.
Your question reminds me of the last time I took the train to the big city to stock up on MREs...
WOOOOH! WOOOOOOOOOH! The long, low wail of a train cut across the dusty badlands, its desolation apparent in the soft glow of the morning sunrise. The train rolled ever onwards, on its tedious journey from the great Equestrian capitol: Canterlot. The train was a standard, simple engine with classic Pullpony passenger cars. Its name was Ironshod, and today she bore a special passenger, a beautiful, raven-haired mare with a flawless gray coat, the great Octavia von Clef, She had deep purple eyes, a purple treble clef for her cutie mark and a deep passion for her bowties. Her looks aside, Octavia was a prodigy at a young age with the cello; she quickly grew to fame as she found herself playing the enormous instrument at progressively more and more important musical locales. These eventually led to her being noticed by many upper class ponies, who loved to hear her classical melodies. Most recently, she had finished a very long concert at the capitol, performing with some of her oldest friends, and was due in the Crystal Empire to perform again in a few days. Her cello rested on the floor beneath her seat, and she sighed longingly as she glanced out the window.
"I can't vait until I'm older....just so I can lie back and live vithout having so much to do..." She said to herself as she watched the passing countryside. It was mostly desert with spots of different hardy grasses and cacti. Little gusts of wind picked up tumbleweeds and threw them lazily across the sand. Nothing of interest for miles as far as she could see, except for the mountains to the East, yet to Octavia, they only added to the blandness of the passing scenery. The train car she was in wasnt very excting either, everypony but her had fallen asleep much earlier in the night. Not suprising though, the soft rumble of the train and the monotonous click-clack of the tracks made for a seducing industrial melody. Suddenly, Octavia felt the strong urge to sleep herself. "It vill just be for a little bit...." She thought, as she rested her head on the window, and slowly closed her eyes, drifting into a calm trance of sleep.
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"Miss von Clef?”
Octavia looked up, startled from her sleep. "Excuse me?”
"Miss von Clef"
"Hello? Vhere are you?" Octavia said standing up and searching around.
"Miss von Clef","Miss von Clef","Miss von Clef","Miss von Clef" Suddenly she was surrounded by ponies, no not just ponies, stallions, they were all stallions. "Miss Octavia","Miss von Clef", "Tavi'", "Octavia, baby.", "Hey, good looking.."
There were dozens of them, all suitors looking to be with her, she couldnt do anyhting she was crushed between them all, their voices getting louder and louder in her head. She couldnt breathe, she couldnt move, she was going to die on this train surounded by a bunch of horny stallions, but somehow a noise rose above the stallions. She twisted her head, trying desperately to find the source, anything would be better than the mosh pit she was currently suffocating in. There! the door! the train door was almost glowing, if only she could reach...
A hoof came out of nowhere and grabbed her free hoof, "Ticket please, Miss".
It was the conductor, holding her hoof in an iron grip. "You don't understand", she pleaded with the conductor," I have to get out, I'm dying in here-"
"Sorry Ma'am but nobody gets on without a ticket." he said stoically.
"But I'm already on the train", she pleaded, "I just want to leave".
"Attention! Everypony, please exit the train. Repeat, Everypony please exit the train." Everypony looked up suddenly, as the message repeated. For the first time there was calm on the train. It was shortlived however, as the doors behind Octavia flew open and ponies began flying out of the train into a white nothingness. The stallions were pulled out one by one, then the conductor too was pulled out of his own train shaking his hoof and yelling something about tickets, the message becoming louder and louder every second. As the conductor was enveloped in the whiteness, Octavia felt herslef being pulled into the void as well. Desperate for something to keep her alive, she ran the other door feeling the train lurch and tear apart beneath her. She reached the other doors and threw them open only to be thrown through them herself as the train rolled over into the void. She was alone then, nothingness surrounded her as she fell and fell and fell, all the time the message screaming in her head, "All passengers, please exit the train!!" her vision blurred as she fell ever faster and the whiteness seemed to close arround her completely.
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"Attention! Everypony, please exit the train. Repeat, Everypony please exit the train." The sound of the conductor coming over the loudspeaker shattered her dream, bring her back to reality. Octavia woke with a start, the blinding sun in her eyes. Had her dream been real? where was everypony? She calmed slightly as she realised she could see and hear ponies outside the train through the windows. The scorching desert surrounded still her, sadly. Not the calm, heaven-like snow of the Crystal Empire's arctic habitat. And....the train was abandoned. She looked around the train car she was in, confused. Had everypony evacuated the train, and she was the only one left? Worried, She grabbed her cello's case in her teeth, trotting quickly out onto the train station's wooden platform outside.
"Vhat happened? Vhy aren't ve in ze Crystal Empire??" She nervously asked one of the conductors.
"Well....the tracks've been torn apart by some rogue Griffons having a spat with the locals. Real dirty buisness them folk, always looking for a fight.
"Nevermind that" ,she said frantically. "when will the tracks be fixed?" "Well.." the conductor shrugged embarassed, " ...it'll most likely be a day or two before the new tracks arrive, and then it'll take about two weeks for them to be fixed onto the old ones."
Octavia could've fainted. Two weeks?! She'd be definitely swamped with missed concerts by then. "Oh....vell...um...thank you." She nodded to the conductor, who returned to what he was doing.
Slowly, Octavia trotted into the main town, recognizing the dull, desert-barren city-town of Appleloosa. She'd only ever heard things and seen pictures of this dusty, immoral place. It was only midday and already she could smell the stench of cheap liqour coming from the many bars and gentlecolts clubs. There wasn't anything she recognized about the place, but a simple general store, town hall, and sherriff's office tied the town's olden look and feel together. She didn't want to be here, but the was nowhere else to go. A crash sounded though the town as a stallion was thrown on his ass into the dusty street from a nearby bar. Several curses were exchanged between each party, but Octavia couldn't undertand them. The stallion got up and dusted himself of and moved away from the bar, giving her a wink as he walked by. Octavia sighed in disgust and decided to head to the bar, might as well ask around for a room to stay at. The bar's name was sloppily painted on a rickety sing hanging above the doors: The Drunken Apple.
"Quite appropriate" she thought to herslef sarcastically. She approached the bar and could hear a drunken ballad coming from the building's warped front doors and a few breaks in the dusty windows. She steeled herself as she began to walk towards the doors. Things were going to be bad, she could tell.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
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Now now, tine..Originally Posted by thesparten
made the switch to online blackjack
TINE IS GOD
while online he may not be concentrating adequately on the tourney...online is he multi-tabling? drinking beyond the legal driving limit? blazing up? watching porn between poker hands?
(btw, Flying Stupidity is not for totally serious answers, I'd suggest you post this question in the Poker Community Discussions forum if you are looking only for non-troll answers)
Last edited by GrenadaRoger; 06-05-2016 at 01:49 PM.
(long before there was a PFA i had my Grenade & Crossbones avatar at DD)
Always my worst leak. Literally.while online he may not be concentrating adequately on the tourney...online is he multi-tabling? drinking beyond the legal driving limit? blazing up? watching porn between poker hands?
And just try to masterbating at the table of a brick and mortar joint while oogling the hot waitresses. (Trust me. It's not a happy ending.)
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He is one of my customers. He blazes up on the way to the casino, takes a toke during breaks..
And he only plays one table at a time doing online but of course is probably multi tasking..
Mind u, none of us are statisticians and we don't do hand history and number of hands ect ect..
But from a birds eye view. It looks like that the online sites are just seat scripting, bum hunting , HUD using nit grinders who just play nit poker for rake back 12 hours a day and in the casino it's more of a sit down and play mentality..
Il be honest. It's a prejudice of mine. But I'm starting to think that online poker is a little bit of a scam in a couple of ways..
As I do get more and more experience playing online (and better) I'm thinking unless your one of those nits , it's actually making money under the pretense of playing poker..
If I only played newbies or take my nephews lunch money playing poker? Should I consider myself a "poker pro".
What online site does your "friend" play at?? Is it full flush?? Reality is outside of Bovada the ability to find out peoples playing habits online is pretty strong. If somebody wants to commit the investment they can buy a HUD and import hand histories of folks and thus have an inside track to the folks not doing so. Its one reason why I prefer Bovada because the anonymous tables eliminate any advantage HUD users have also keeps people from bum hunting or shark caging (avoiding the sharks basically). Hence why truthfully at times for the most part live is easier to play then online.
A.C.R.is what he plays on.What online site does your "friend" play at?? Is it full flush?? Reality is outside of Bovada the ability to find out peoples playing habits online is pretty strong. If somebody wants to commit the investment they can buy a HUD and import hand histories of folks and thus have an inside track to the folks not doing so. Its one reason why I prefer Bovada because the anonymous tables eliminate any advantage HUD users have also keeps people from bum hunting or shark caging (avoiding the sharks basically). Hence why truthfully at times for the most part live is easier to play then online.
I used to play on it..
Acr is very enthusiastic about there grinders using huds and seat scripters.that's one of the reasons why I left them. I would play club. Wpt before going back there.
I play at 5dimes grand poker. It's a rec environment and I don't think there software supports huds. Which is good even though traffic is low. I'm actually building a B.R. "the fair way"..
Il just sit at the next open seat at the limits I want. I wright mental and digital notes on other players but it seems " fair"..
There are a couple of tables were u have regular taking up a seat (sitting out) while there's actioN ON THe table. He is taking up a seat while waiting for a fish.. I DONT THINK THAT SHOULD BE ALLOWED...and acouple sitting by themselves while there are empty seats with the same stakes at other tables..
I really believe that a player should pick there stakes and the computer just auto puts u at the next available chair at those stakes.. THATS FAIR AND HONEST POKER..
I really wish I could play at bovada. I tried but they won't take n.y. I don't play live, too time-consuming. But I might start.
But he cashes at live casinos but finds it very difficult to cash on line.. Hmmm??
Some of these online sites are just a platform for taking money under the "pretense" of playing poker.is actually very. Sad for them. I am a fan of the game...
I'm on the verge of quiting online poker and just playing the $250 live daily acouple times a month. I don't mind losing as long as I feel it's " fair".
Last edited by thesparten; 06-05-2016 at 03:34 PM.
ACR poker is much tougher than Bovada but definitely beatable without a HUD (MTT's or cash games). There are tons of regs, but the fields are much smaller compared to Bovada so you should be getting more consistent results even in the short term (basically MTT SNGs imo). You're playing the same guys over and over again in every MTT, so you have to really know their tendencies and exploit basically every edge that you can find. I can confirm that I beat ACR MTTs ($22 to $215) and cash games (mostly PLO $.5/$1 to $3/$6) over decent sized samples without much notetaking or HUD, but then again I have more experience than most of the people on there and it's possible that I just ran good over I'm guessing ~30,000 hands or so I've played on there.A.C.R.is what he plays on.
I used to play on it..
Acr is very enthusiastic about there grinders using huds and seat scripters.that's one of the reasons why I left them. I would play club. Wpt before going back there.
I play at 5dimes grand poker. It's a rec environment and I don't think there software supports huds. Which is good even though traffic is low. I'm actually building a B.R. "the fair way"..
Il just sit at the next open seat at the limits I want. I wright mental and digital notes on other players but it seems " fair"..
There are a couple of tables were u have regular taking up a seat (sitting out) while there's actioN ON THe table. He is taking up a seat while waiting for a fish.. I DONT THINK THAT SHOULD BE ALLOWED...and acouple sitting by themselves while there are empty seats with the same stakes at other tables..
I really believe that a player should pick there stakes and the computer just auto puts u at the next available chair at those stakes.. THATS FAIR AND HONEST POKER..
I really wish I could play at bovada. I tried but they won't take n.y. I don't play live, too time-consuming. But I might start.
But he cashes at live casinos but finds it very difficult to cash on line.. Hmmm??
Some of these online sites are just a platform for taking money under the "pretense" of playing poker.is actually very. Sad for them. I am a fan of the game...
I'm on the verge of quiting online poker and just playing the $250 live daily acouple times a month. I don't mind losing as long as I feel it's " fair".
Very true....
The fields are smaller but they compensate for that with 3 to 5 hour late and 15 minute blind as opposed to 12 or 10
Once again to help there stable nit players.
I do know most of the regs at the" low " mtt stakes and "micro" cash stakes.
Even when they made the gi60 with the 60 late and 10 minute blinds they kept the prize structure very small and top heavy..once again to compensate there nits and keep the $ with there stable players..
There is another thread about acr but as far as there concerned, even when u here phill on twitch , they have such distain for the rec..
It's really a turn off and in my opinion "recs need not apply there" even competant ones. All the other sites are going in exacly the opposite direction.
It's actually a growing feeling .
It's all a conspiracy. The ACR spies got word that thesparten had experience with flipping around dough and now they have rigged the rng to take it from him.
Sorry thesparten but the Winning Poker CEO Phil won't let your dough rise on his watch.
Live Poker sucks
Online Poker doesn't suck/thread
I like and respect u China..
But honestly, is there any validity to my low brow critique even though u benefit from the current online system..
Just a sincere question and am curious to Your response.
Please be objective.
oh wait wtf you were talking about low limits... lol watch some youtube training videos and play 1000 MTTs. if you're still getting crushed, you can look up institutions that will treat mental retardation symptoms.
First I'm not getting crushed..
Second , I'm sorry I'm not as rich as you.
Third. Even a $30 day loss is 1k a month..a lot of money for a rec and sites should be aware of that and treat recs better.
Fourth and FORMOST. That doesn't answer my sincere question.
Think hard.......real hard.
If you owned a poker site and could rig the deal, who would you help, The fish, or the pro.
how can you be such a retard sparten? You really are close to be considered a legit retard by medical standards.
So the answer to my question is that the online enviroment either proactivly or nuanced helps the so called pro...
Think hard.......real hard.
If you owned a poker site and could rig the deal, who would you help, The fish, or the pro.
And the answer to your question is if your right? Then why are most sites changing that.
listen dummy. I have a hud running on non anon sites but I use it mainly for vpip and pfr maybe 3 or 4 more stats. I prefer to play vs bad players but if none are around I still play. I don't have/use a script. I have made many dollars playing poker online. You just suck dude + you are dumb as dirt and have no discipline, don't be mad at everyone cus you suck and can't hack it. I have no more of an adv than you do when we sit down at a table, you fucking idiot.
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