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    Quote Originally Posted by PKRPlayer2001 View Post
    I have found some flaws in their software that if i do a certain thing.. i would be dealt a premium starting hand the very next hand.. I have tried it over and over and it seems to work more than 70% of the time.... I believe this is the new way of activating their cheats without even having to use any extra software on your computer...
    Now that you've figured out their rigged system, you must be a very wealthy man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SantaCruz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PKRPlayer2001 View Post
    I have found some flaws in their software that if i do a certain thing.. i would be dealt a premium starting hand the very next hand.. I have tried it over and over and it seems to work more than 70% of the time.... I believe this is the new way of activating their cheats without even having to use any extra software on your computer...
    Now that you've figured out their rigged system, you must be a very wealthy man.

    Not quite.. Thats only lvl 1 to activate.. you have to play certain way after that for step 2 confirmation... its not that simple buddy... if it was that easy to activate there would be people accidentally activating it...


    think of it like the Mexican cartel with secret compartments.. you have to press AC + radio and step on the brakes to open the compartment..


    just shows how smart you are thinking its that simple... im done talking to small people like you..

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    I like playing on WPN and maybe i'm a dummy for thinking like this at all, or for still playing there if i really think something weird is going on.
    I'd rather be working hard on other things, not this kind of stuff.

    Long story short, noticed something weird a few months ago and it led me to start noting and categorizing everyone. Basically kind of feel
    things are slanted a bit in favor of the newer accounts.

    Snapped a couple screenshots of Top 15 winners and losers at my stake so far this month. I mark new accounts as "buddies" in PT4, so
    those guys have the buddy icon. Could be totally random and i happened to look on just the right day, but i thought it was interesting.

    Top 15 winners
    Name:  Lt3pXJF.png
Views: 580
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    Top 15 losers
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Views: 564
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    Last edited by Fake WPN account; 06-17-2016 at 05:56 AM.

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    When i first joined acr, I really knew nothing.

    I wasn't a fish but plankton.

    I binked micro tournament, s left and right never having to rebuy or anything..

    I didn't even know what an add on was couse club wpt didn't have them and wouldn't click on it the first couple of times and actually binked one of those.

    Just saying...

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    Seems like the glitches are changing as soon as I post them here..
    I found the new glitch already though.. It got me deep in tournaments... Private message me if you want to know it cause I wont post it since its getting changed as so as I do...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fake WPN account View Post
    I like playing on WPN and maybe i'm a dummy for thinking like this at all, or for still playing there if i really think something weird is going on.
    I'd rather be working hard on other things, not this kind of stuff.

    Long story short, noticed something weird a few months ago and it led me to start noting and categorizing everyone. Basically kind of feel
    things are slanted a bit in favor of the newer accounts.

    Snapped a couple screenshots of Top 15 winners and losers at my stake so far this month. I mark new accounts as "buddies" in PT4, so
    those guys have the buddy icon. Could be totally random and i happened to look on just the right day, but i thought it was interesting.

    Top 15 winners
    Name:  
Views: 
Size:

    Top 15 losers
    Name:  
Views: 
Size:
    AmericasCardroom.eu Winning Poker Network Yatahay
    BlackChipPoker.eu Winning Poker Network Yatahay
    BookMaker.eu Winning Poker Network Yatahay
    Full10Poker.com Winning Poker Network Yatahay
    MythosPoker.com Winning Poker Network Yatahay
    PokerHost.com Winning Poker Network Yatahay
    PokerKing.com Winning Poker Network Yatahay
    TruePoker.eu Winning Poker Network Yatahay
    YaPoker.com Winning Poker Network Yatahay


    Those are all the sites connected to WPN so its possible they could just use one of those sites to host all of their bot or shady accounts... We will never truly know because we cant even register at those sites..

    I seriously think some insiders at WPN are robbing their skins players blindly by altering things and know how the RNG algorithm works.. I notice when I do certain things the cards will flop 100% of the time in my favor and HOLD and when I did other things I would be dealt a premium starting hand the very next hand on the BIG BLIND... although the BB trick stopped working as soon as i Posted it here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PKRPlayer2001 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fake WPN account View Post
    I like playing on WPN and maybe i'm a dummy for thinking like this at all, or for still playing there if i really think something weird is going on.
    I'd rather be working hard on other things, not this kind of stuff.

    Long story short, noticed something weird a few months ago and it led me to start noting and categorizing everyone. Basically kind of feel
    things are slanted a bit in favor of the newer accounts.

    Snapped a couple screenshots of Top 15 winners and losers at my stake so far this month. I mark new accounts as "buddies" in PT4, so
    those guys have the buddy icon. Could be totally random and i happened to look on just the right day, but i thought it was interesting.

    Top 15 winners
    Name:  
Views: 
Size:

    Top 15 losers
    Name:  
Views: 
Size:
    AmericasCardroom.eu Winning Poker Network Yatahay
    BlackChipPoker.eu Winning Poker Network Yatahay
    BookMaker.eu Winning Poker Network Yatahay
    Full10Poker.com Winning Poker Network Yatahay
    MythosPoker.com Winning Poker Network Yatahay
    PokerHost.com Winning Poker Network Yatahay
    PokerKing.com Winning Poker Network Yatahay
    TruePoker.eu Winning Poker Network Yatahay
    YaPoker.com Winning Poker Network Yatahay


    Those are all the sites connected to WPN so its possible they could just use one of those sites to host all of their bot or shady accounts... We will never truly know because we cant even register at those sites..

    I seriously think some insiders at WPN are robbing their skins players blindly by altering things and know how the RNG algorithm works.. I notice when I do certain things the cards will flop 100% of the time in my favor and HOLD and when I did other things I would be dealt a premium starting hand the very next hand on the BIG BLIND... although the BB trick stopped working as soon as i Posted it here.
    missed a few


    Betcoin.ag
    BetDSI
    Bookmaker
    FabulousPoker
    IslandCasinoPoker
    HostPoker4You
    PokerArabia
    PokerKing
    SportBet
    SuperStackPoker
    TOP
    TruePoker
    YaPoker

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    I reposted the links. For some reason they weren't showing up i guess.

    Have some more stuff i would like post. Just working on how to put it together, and how to filter for what i'm trying to show.

    One report is Hero vs Villian, but unfortunately it does not show the "buddy" icon in that report. So i may export to excel and highlight the players that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fake WPN account View Post
    I reposted the links. For some reason they weren't showing up i guess.

    Have some more stuff i would like post. Just working on how to put it together, and how to filter for what i'm trying to show.

    One report is Hero vs Villian, but unfortunately it does not show the "buddy" icon in that report. So i may export to excel and highlight the players that way.
    Seriously, if you really think something is going on & are willing to post some proof/content, like your last post, then you should start your own thread because everything in this thread has been a joke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hockey Guy
    I'd say good luck in the freeroll but I'm pretty sure you'll go on a bender to self-sabotage yourself & miss it completely or use it as the excuse of why you didn't cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fake WPN account View Post
    I like playing on WPN and maybe i'm a dummy for thinking like this at all, or for still playing there if i really think something weird is going on.
    I'd rather be working hard on other things, not this kind of stuff.

    Long story short, noticed something weird a few months ago and it led me to start noting and categorizing everyone. Basically kind of feel
    things are slanted a bit in favor of the newer accounts.

    Snapped a couple screenshots of Top 15 winners and losers at my stake so far this month. I mark new accounts as "buddies" in PT4, so
    those guys have the buddy icon. Could be totally random and i happened to look on just the right day, but i thought it was interesting.

    Top 15 winners
    Name:  Lt3pXJF.png
Views: 580
Size:  37.7 KB

    Top 15 losers
    Name:  gHQieh7.png
Views: 564
Size:  34.2 KB
    whats weird about this?

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    He's saying that the players marked with a buddy symbol are all new players. And that since there are more buddies as winning players than there are losing players, that the site gives new players an edge.

    There's a couple of problems with that though. The sample sizes (of both the number of players and hands played) are way way too small to mean anything at all. And the players usernames aren't included in the charts, so their join dates can't be independently verified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fake WPN account View Post
    I like playing on WPN and maybe i'm a dummy for thinking like this at all, or for still playing there if i really think something weird is going on.
    I'd rather be working hard on other things, not this kind of stuff.

    Long story short, noticed something weird a few months ago and it led me to start noting and categorizing everyone. Basically kind of feel
    things are slanted a bit in favor of the newer accounts.

    Snapped a couple screenshots of Top 15 winners and losers at my stake so far this month. I mark new accounts as "buddies" in PT4, so
    those guys have the buddy icon. Could be totally random and i happened to look on just the right day, but i thought it was interesting.

    Top 15 winners
    Name:  Lt3pXJF.png
Views: 580
Size:  37.7 KB

    Top 15 losers
    Name:  gHQieh7.png
Views: 564
Size:  34.2 KB

    Keep an eye on them.. see if they get spawned into bigger tournaments. I suspect ACR or WPN has a buddy system of bots to place top in tournaments. The software is glitchy like you can do certain things and get 90% of the same outcome.

    Here's proof ACR could be Ultimate Bet or Paradise Poker..... They don't go away they just change names and start scamming again...


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    They have been around since 2001 says one ACR rep. Not many sites during that time. Ultimate BS sure was. BUSTED

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    To pick apart the reddit post:

    1. ACR was the old Doyle's Room so if you go off that they have been around since 2001.

    2. The do offer the million dollar tournaments and are the only site to do so that accepts Americans.

    3. The free series is true and the guarantee but this isn't 100% money coming out of their pocket. You start with 1000 chips for the free entry and people can rebuy/addon which cost money. In the end they might be giving away 30% of the 150k, 50%,etc... It's still free/added money by the network but I'm just making this clear how it really works as they shell out the rest when they guarantee isn't met.

    4. A small amount of the end total of the rake race pool was put into it by ACR. The rest is taking from raking pots or the sit n go fee. This can be a nice added bonus on top of the 27% you get in rakeback as well. When I grinded the site hard a few years back before it really grew their were times I made over 100% rakeback after the bonus by winning the leaderboard but most of the time it fell in the 60% to 80% if I recall (RB + leaderboard bonus + tourney ticket).

    WPN is the network for a hardcore grinder who wants to play a bunch of tables for various incentives and don't mind battling it out with a bunch of regs in the process. Bovada games are by far softer, despite being anonymous tables. The Bodog/Bovada network is a bigger player pool and has always targeted sports/casino people who will sit down playing poker creating more soft spots. They offer random casino games and sports betting over on WPN but most of the player pool isn't on there for that. You are limited to 4 tables max in cash/sng on Bovada with the recreational model.

    It's all about a player and what they want out of a site. If you are a recreational player then winning on WPN could be tough beyond the micros.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SantaCruz View Post
    He's saying that the players marked with a buddy symbol are all new players. And that since there are more buddies as winning players than there are losing players, that the site gives new players an edge.

    There's a couple of problems with that though. The sample sizes (of both the number of players and hands played) are way way too small to mean anything at all. And the players usernames aren't included in the charts, so their join dates can't be independently verified.

    I used to snap a screenshot of every players Profile that i wanted to note, and i have a lot of them, but at some point it became a little tedious and i changed the way i did it. But i do sort of wish i had stuck to that way of doing it.
    I have a large sample of hands, but it is just a matter of figuring out how to filter for different things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PKRPlayer2001 View Post
    Here's proof ACR could be Ultimate Bet or Paradise Poker..... They don't go away they just change names and start scamming again...

    They have been around since 2001 says one ACR rep. Not many sites during that time. Ultimate BS sure was. BUSTED
    Or Truepoker? Or 5dimes? Or BetCris?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker View Post
    To pick apart the reddit post:

    1. ACR was the old Doyle's Room so if you go off that they have been around since 2001.

    2. The do offer the million dollar tournaments and are the only site to do so that accepts Americans.

    3. The free series is true and the guarantee but this isn't 100% money coming out of their pocket. You start with 1000 chips for the free entry and people can rebuy/addon which cost money. In the end they might be giving away 30% of the 150k, 50%,etc... It's still free/added money by the network but I'm just making this clear how it really works as they shell out the rest when they guarantee isn't met.

    4. A small amount of the end total of the rake race pool was put into it by ACR. The rest is taking from raking pots or the sit n go fee. This can be a nice added bonus on top of the 27% you get in rakeback as well. When I grinded the site hard a few years back before it really grew their were times I made over 100% rakeback after the bonus by winning the leaderboard but most of the time it fell in the 60% to 80% if I recall (RB + leaderboard bonus + tourney ticket).

    WPN is the network for a hardcore grinder who wants to play a bunch of tables for various incentives and don't mind battling it out with a bunch of regs in the process. Bovada games are by far softer, despite being anonymous tables. The Bodog/Bovada network is a bigger player pool and has always targeted sports/casino people who will sit down playing poker creating more soft spots. They offer random casino games and sports betting over on WPN but most of the player pool isn't on there for that. You are limited to 4 tables max in cash/sng on Bovada with the recreational model.

    It's all about a player and what they want out of a site. If you are a recreational player then winning on WPN could be tough beyond the micros.

    Doyle's Cardroom was Merge and was founded in 2004...

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    Quote Originally Posted by duped_samaritan View Post
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    ACR Rep for sure! OMG! How did you find me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PKRPlayer2001 View Post

    Doyle's Cardroom was Merge and was founded in 2004...
    Doyles Room was not Merge.

    Also to be noted. When Doyle's Room closed down, the owners ran off with the money. WPN bought the site and paid the players out of its own pocket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SantaCruz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PKRPlayer2001 View Post

    Doyle's Cardroom was Merge and was founded in 2004...
    Doyles Room was not Merge.

    Also to be noted. When Doyle's Room closed down, the owners ran off with the money. WPN bought the site and paid the players out of its own pocket.

    Seems to me they just switch owners in their circle and keep the same non-working SCAM Setup


    So do they just keep paying each other for the 100 players they have or what? I wouldnt want to buy a non working poker site just to switch software and names.

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