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    At a time like this it would be tough to act all interested in some old ruins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of the Fraud View Post
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    Don't watch political shows on tv. Easy.

    Then what is the alternative for a population who have spent their entire lives getting the news from MSM news channels?

    Forget alternative news coz 90%? of people don't bother or even know they exist. So there needs to be at least some form of balance from two of the biggest news channels on US television.

    Nothing would please me more than seeing more people in the UK get their news facts away from the MSM. But at least there's at least some balance when it comes to political stories by allowing pundits from either side of the fence to air their opinions.

    Fox doesn't offer that. While CNN barley offers that.


    Go to conventional old media. Here's a good example... this guy has been breaking solid Trump news and also broke the Hillary Clinton using private server story.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_S._Schmidt The guy is probably loathed by all sides for different stories.

    If you read the NYT and WaPo should are miles ahead of anyone glued to a TV. The problem isn't finding real, quality, truthful news as an American, it's easily found if you want it.

    There's plenty of good, solid reporting out there that's pretty easy to find. Avoiding Tv, breitbart, infowars, gateway pundit, Louisa Mensch is easy if you don't want to be a dumbass. Guys like Hannity flat out say he's not news, he's just a talk show host. Hannity is garbage but no different than Wold Blitzer. They are all slaves to ratings and must entertain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToasterOven View Post
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    Then what is the alternative for a population who have spent their entire lives getting the news from MSM news channels?

    Forget alternative news coz 90%? of people don't bother or even know they exist. So there needs to be at least some form of balance from two of the biggest news channels on US television.

    Nothing would please me more than seeing more people in the UK get their news facts away from the MSM. But at least there's at least some balance when it comes to political stories by allowing pundits from either side of the fence to air their opinions.

    Fox doesn't offer that. While CNN barley offers that.


    Go to conventional old media. Here's a good example... this guy has been breaking solid Trump news and also broke the Hillary Clinton using private server story.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_S._Schmidt The guy is probably loathed by all sides for different stories.

    If you read the NYT and WaPo should are miles ahead of anyone glued to a TV. The problem isn't finding real, quality, truthful news as an American, it's easily found if you want it.

    There's plenty of good, solid reporting out there that's pretty easy to find. Avoiding Tv, breitbart, infowars, gateway pundit, Louisa Mensch is easy if you don't want to be a dumbass. Guys like Hannity flat out say he's not news, he's just a talk show host. Hannity is garbage but no different than Wold Blitzer. They are all slaves to ratings and must entertain.

    You make sound points regards easily finding better spots within the MSM other than garbage TV news channels. But that there lies the problem. The majority of the electorate don't care enough, or don't have the time to sniff out less agenda driven news. It's just easier to switch on Fox for an hour and get sucked into their bullshit.

    It's a mad world. People will hear an opinion from somebody like Tucker Carlson, and no matter what is placed in front of them to refute said opinion, they'd bet their kids lives that Tucker is talking absolute fact.

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    Ok Impeach the motherfucker and send him to jail. Let that bible thumping pile of shit Pence lie us into war w Iran and Syria, maybe that's what we deserve for being cowards and not calling out Israel and letting them and corporations bribe everyone that matters.. I'm sure he'll be happy to wander around Israel's "holy" sites talking to his imaginary pals, God help us.
    Good watch.

    The Taliban controls more area now than they did when the war began, what a colossal fail. There should be people going to jail over fuck ups of this caliber.
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    Team Trump has gone full Putin. Never go full Putin.
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    I actually hope this [second impeachment] succeeds, because I want Trump put down politically like a sick, 14-year-old dog. ... I don't want him complicating the 2024 primary season. I just want him done.
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    Were Republicans cowardly or unethical not to go along with [convicting Trump in the second impeachment Senate trial]? No. The smart move was to reject it.

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    Blah blah blah we're all old pompous assholes who think we know whats going on but in reality we just need to die so that the world can change.




     
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    Hmm interesting, his success is undeniable.

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    so pence just formed his own super pac. first time a sitting vice president ever did that. it's almost like he knows something. weird, huh?

    http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/whit...ctions-n761436

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    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    also id like to take a moment to give a warm shout out to everyone who helped literally break mintjewlips mind.


    im proud to serve with each and every one of you.

     
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    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

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    In the spirit of being an alert and knowledgeable citizenry, here's a piece from Nader. He's always right about this stuff.
    https://blog.nader.org/2017/05/11/th...warfare-state/

    "The Losing Warfare State
    POSTED MAY 11, 2017


    The USA is still bogged down in Afghanistan (the 16 year-old occupation is the longest in American history) and in Iraq (since the unconstitutional, illegal invasion of the country 14 years ago).

    With about 30,000 poorly equipped fighters, the Taliban has held down a US equipped and trained Afghan army eight times larger in soldiers, plus the US forces – fluctuating from 100,000 at its peak to 8,500 now, plus contractors – with advanced air, sea and land weaponry that is second to none.

    Moreover, the Taliban has been advancing, controlling 30 to 40 percent of the country and a third of the population, according to the Wall Street Journal.

    In Iraq, the US had hundreds of thousands of soldiers and contractors during the Bush years. Yet today the country is still in the throes of a civil war, where a previously nonexistent threat – ISIS – with less than 15,000 fighters, has been successfully resisting a huge Iraqi army backed by US trainers and air force.

    How can this be? “We are vulnerable,” writes military author William Greider, “because our presumption of unconquerable superiority leads us deeper and deeper into unwinnable military conflicts.”

    Jim Fallows, asserts in The Atlantic, that our military “is the best-equipped fighting force in history…also better trained, motivated, and disciplined than during the draft-army years.” Nonetheless he concludes: “Yet, repeatedly this force has been defeated by less modern, worse-equipped, barely funded foes. Or it has won skirmishes and battles only to lose or get bogged down in a larger war.”

    It gets worse. Less than 3,000 ISIS fighters took sudden control in 2013 of Mosul, Iraq’s second largest city with over a million residents. Notwithstanding being vastly outnumbered by the Iraqi military and police – who fled – ISIS went on to control over a third of Iraq’s land area. Iraqis and US forces are now destroying West Mosul in order to save it from a few hundred remaining ISIS fighters.

    Fallows quotes former military intelligence officer, Jim Gourley, as saying “it is incontrovertibly evident that the US military failed to achieve any of its strategic goals in Iraq.”

    Setting aside the fundamental questions about why we invaded Iraq and continued to occupy Afghanistan long after 9/11, Americans are entitled to question how continued American occupations across the Middle East serve any kind of vital national interest and why they continue to fail.

    In his analysis, military historian Thomas Ricks writes that “an important factor in the failure” is that no one gets “relieved by the military brass for combat ineffectiveness.” But there are other reasons all the way up the chain of command. Cargo planes ship $100 bills in bulk to Kabul airport as part of an extensive bribery/extortion system that weakens the opposition to the Taliban, whose appeal to the masses, despite their harsh rule over them, is to drive out the foreign invaders. That is a very powerful motivation, one that is lacking among Afghan forces and politicians whom the people of Afghanistan view as puppets of the US and its western allies.

    Retired Admiral Mike Mullen makes another point concerning “the growing disconnect between the American people and our military.” He observes that, “fewer and fewer [American citizens] know anyone in the military. It’s become just too easy to go to war.”

    The ease at which we embrace military interventions is in large part due to a gross dereliction of duty on the part of the Congress, which allows the White House to commence wars, large and small, without legal authority. Congress is the only branch of government constitutionally authorized to declare war and appropriate funds for war. The Libyan war, which was pushed by Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama (and opposed by Secretary of Defense, Robert Gates) was waged without seeking either legal authority or funds from the legislative branch. The Obama administration took monies from the unauditable Pentagon budget to start that continuing disaster in Libya and neighboring African countries.

    Listening to the House and Senate Armed Services Committee hearings, one finds a sycophancy and level of questioning by the lawmakers of Pentagon officials that would embarrass a mediocre high school student.

    But the Senators and Representatives have their reasons. They simply do not want the responsibility for military action except to provide a virtual blank check from taxpayers for the Department and its avaricious, wasteful contractors who fund their campaigns. Second, members of Congress see the military expenditures as a jobs program back in their states and districts. Finally, members of Congress are not getting any heat from the detached, indifferent voters (with few exceptions), either during or between elections. Notice there is never a debate by candidates on the military budget – how it is used or misused financially and strategically (yet candidates regularly pledge ever increasing dollars for the Defense budget).

    As a final cruel insult to our children and grandchildren, Congress, by refusing to fund the wars as they persist, has built up a huge deficit for future generations of Americans to pay.

    Retired Colonel Andrew Bacevich has written, “A people untouched (or seemingly untouched) by war are far less likely to care about it. Persuaded that they have no skin in the game, they will permit the state to do whatever it wishes to do.”

    But, collectively, we all have skin in the game. Look at the unmet needs in our country, crumbling infrastructure, toxic environments and the corrosive costs of corporatism escaping law enforcement that would protect consumers and workers.

    It is the members of Congress who have no skin in the game. Very few of their children are in the armed forces. Were the American people to demand enactment of a one page bill that requires drafting all able-bodied children and grandchildren of members of Congress anytime they or the White House plunges our country into war, you would see a very attentive Congress that pays attention to its Constitutional duties and responsibilities.

    Why not ask your Senators or Representatives to put such a bill in the hop"

    I think the people have no idea how hard this will hit our children and GC, we're billing their ass for these insane quagmires. We may be setting them up for unimaginable hardship, enough!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToasterOven View Post
    Go to conventional old media. Here's a good example... this guy has been breaking solid Trump news and also broke the Hillary Clinton using private server story.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_S._Schmidt The guy is probably loathed by all sides for different stories.

    If you read the NYT and WaPo should are miles ahead of anyone glued to a TV. The problem isn't finding real, quality, truthful news as an American, it's easily found if you want it.

    There's plenty of good, solid reporting out there that's pretty easy to find. Avoiding Tv, breitbart, infowars, gateway pundit, Louisa Mensch is easy if you don't want to be a dumbass. Guys like Hannity flat out say he's not news, he's just a talk show host. Hannity is garbage but no different than Wold Blitzer. They are all slaves to ratings and must entertain.

    In January, me, and millions of other people started subscribing to the NY Times for $12/month, to help them keep up the good work. Their app is fantastic, and if you look around for the promotion you can get a second subscription to give to someone else. My mom just texted me the other day thanking me again for it.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ToasterOven View Post
    Go to conventional old media. Here's a good example... this guy has been breaking solid Trump news and also broke the Hillary Clinton using private server story.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_S._Schmidt The guy is probably loathed by all sides for different stories.

    If you read the NYT and WaPo should are miles ahead of anyone glued to a TV. The problem isn't finding real, quality, truthful news as an American, it's easily found if you want it.

    There's plenty of good, solid reporting out there that's pretty easy to find. Avoiding Tv, breitbart, infowars, gateway pundit, Louisa Mensch is easy if you don't want to be a dumbass. Guys like Hannity flat out say he's not news, he's just a talk show host. Hannity is garbage but no different than Wold Blitzer. They are all slaves to ratings and must entertain.

    In January, me, and millions of other people started subscribing to the NY Times for $12/month, to help them kept up the good work. Their app is fantastic, and if you look around for the promotion you can get a second subscription to give to someone else. My mom just texted me the other day thanking me again for it.
    Been a digital subscriber for years. It's essential daily reading. If it's not in the New York Times, it didn't happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hongkonger View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyB View Post


    In January, me, and millions of other people started subscribing to the NY Times for $12/month, to help them kept up the good work. Their app is fantastic, and if you look around for the promotion you can get a second subscription to give to someone else. My mom just texted me the other day thanking me again for it.
    Been a digital subscriber for years. It's essential daily reading. If it's not in the New York Times, it didn't happen.
    This is what liberals actually believe.

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    You are over 50, and post shit teenagers can see through.
    Any scientific study 'meme', (w/no link), is 99 % fake news.

    And even if it isn't, who cares? (if you aren't a whiny bitch, like Trump.)
    100 % of the time he said Obama was from Kenya he was racist

    Lets see how the press covers Trump if he stops being corrupt and stops lying. (and whining).

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyG_415 View Post
    100 % of the time he said Obama was from Kenya he was racist

    imagine being a grown man and caring about things being "racist"

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    Destroying Donald Trump is all that matters in the newsrooms of the mainstream media


    Now anything goes. All restraints are loosened, all self-discipline trashed. There’s no cure or even treatment for Trump Derangement Syndrome, a disease as wild and as swiftly lethal as anything imported from the Ebola River valley of the dark continent. The rules and taboos that once guided even the sleaziest excuse for a newspaper no longer apply.

    Destroying Donald Trump is all that matters in the newsrooms of the mainstream media, so called, and by any means necessary.

    Rarely have so many hysterics contributed so much of the national conversation.

    A columnist in The New York Times, ground zero in the epidemic of Trump Derangement Syndrome, suggests that a mutiny at the White House is the “more appropriate” way to rid the nation of the legitimate 46th duly elected president of the United States. Why waste time on impeachment? Mike Pence, Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell could organize the ambush. The columnist likens them to “stewards for a syphilitic emperor.”

    Ross Douthat is regarded as a “conservative” at The New York Times, and he thinks impeachment would take too long, be too messy, and recommends invoking the Twenty-fifth Amendment, which permits the president’s Cabinet to remove the president if a majority of the secretaries tells Congress that the president can no longer perform his duties.

    Ultimately, he writes in the newspaper once known as “the old gray lady” and which has become “the old crazy lady,” he does not believe “our president sufficiently understands the nature of the office he holds, the nature of the legal constraints that are supposed to bind him, perhaps even the nature of normal human interactions, to be guilty of obstruction of justice in the Nixonian or even Clintonian sense of the phrase.”

    A half-century ago a certain magazine thought a long-distance psychiatric examination of a presidential candidate was in order, and asked 12,000 psychiatrists (who knew there were so many headshrinkers on the fruited plain?) whether they thought Barry Goldwater was crazy, and 1,189 responded with a diagnosis: Mr. Goldwater, the Republican nominee for president in 1964, was nothing less than nuts. The American Psychiatric Association, sensitive to the public outrage that followed, told their members never to do it again.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...tters-to-some/

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