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    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Paul Ryan like any bush does nothing to help the white working class or poor..

    Ryan would vote to give all of Mexico free health care and add a tax to private sector workers making $17 who are barely able to support them selves at the same time allowing over seas tax deductions..

    Ryan is an enemy of the state in a very literal term..

    Unlike most progressive,s and there work pkace accident,s. I'm capable of being intellectually honest..

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    Quote Originally Posted by thesparten View Post
    Paul Ryan like any bush does nothing to help the white working class or poor..

    Ryan would vote to give all of Mexico free health care and add a tax to private sector workers making $17 who are barely able to support them selves at the same time allowing over seas tax deductions..

    Ryan is an enemy of the state in a very literal term..

    Once you accept that Ryan is a libertarian, everything else falls into place.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesparten View Post
    Paul Ryan like any bush does nothing to help the white working class or poor..

    Ryan would vote to give all of Mexico free health care and add a tax to private sector workers making $17 who are barely able to support them selves at the same time allowing over seas tax deductions..

    Ryan is an enemy of the state in a very literal term..

    Unlike most progressive,s and there work pkace accident,s. I'm capable of being intellectually honest..
    Paul Ryan (Mr. Free trade) wants it to be illegal to pick up Prescription,s in Canada.

    Paul Ryan wanted Mexican truck drivers to cross the border to make deliveries in america and at the same time to raise taxes and fees and regulations on American truck drivers. For safety reasons "of course"..

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by thesparten View Post
    Paul Ryan like any bush does nothing to help the white working class or poor..

    Ryan would vote to give all of Mexico free health care and add a tax to private sector workers making $17 who are barely able to support them selves at the same time allowing over seas tax deductions..

    Ryan is an enemy of the state in a very literal term..

    Once you accept that Ryan is a libertarian, everything else falls into place.
    He is not a libertarian.. see previous post.. he is representing somebody alright. It's just not america.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thesparten View Post
    All they have to do is put..

    1. Allow individuals to join groups.

    2. Negotiate drug prices.

    3. Allow across state line competition.

    4. Allow insurance companies to put a 6 month period for pre condition,s..

    5. Take away some of the coverage mandate,s and allow the insurance company to allow it as an additional flyer..

    6. illegal immigrants are not ENTITLED to extensive care, merley basic emergency care. There country if origin is responsible. Or liberals can create charity out of there own resources..

    7. Government workets should pay into the system for there Cadillac plans.

    8.tax credit for people who purchase plans..


    THEN ALL WOULD BE FINE FOR THE MOST OF THE PEOPLE POSSIBLE. THOSE THAT NEED IT AND THOSE ThAT PAY FOR IT..

    Extend 7 to everyone and tax it like income and you're onto something. Employee-based insurance having a carve out is the root of why we can't fix the problem. It was originally supposed to be a temporary incentive to retain employees during WW2 who had capped incomes and then for employers to attract desirable employees at a time when the country was booming in the decade after the war. Now it's the reason wages are stagnant and 75% of those receiving that entitlement, and it is an entitlement via being untaxable income, have no skin in the game nor incentive to care.

    That across the border drug shit will never be allowed to blossom. You see a few states add it, and there's some noise, but pharamaceutical companies would snuff it the fuck out if it ever became the norm. They gave those cheaper prices to socialized medicine countries because they have bargaining power, and can still gouge Americans. They don't make a big deal about it if it's a few seniors in border states because the PR wouldn't be worth it, but if it ever grew, they'd simply fuck over the country selling across borders to America. It would defeat their entire purpose and billions spent lobbying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesparten View Post
    All they have to do is put..

    1. Allow individuals to join groups.

    2. Negotiate drug prices.

    3. Allow across state line competition.

    4. Allow insurance companies to put a 6 month period for pre condition,s..

    5. Take away some of the coverage mandate,s and allow the insurance company to allow it as an additional flyer..

    6. illegal immigrants are not ENTITLED to extensive care, merley basic emergency care. There country if origin is responsible. Or liberals can create charity out of there own resources..

    7. Government workets should pay into the system for there Cadillac plans.

    8.tax credit for people who purchase plans..


    THEN ALL WOULD BE FINE FOR THE MOST OF THE PEOPLE POSSIBLE. THOSE THAT NEED IT AND THOSE ThAT PAY FOR IT..
    This is all pretty good, and I agree with most of it.

    However, it still doesn't fully address the cost issue. It addresses the prescription drugs cost, but that's a far easier fix.

    Medical billing needs to be completely reworked. Patients need estimates BEFORE CARE, which they sign off on, including out of pocket cost. Obviously this would be excepted for true emergencies.

    Different costs for in-network/out-of-network should also be abolished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by thesparten View Post
    All they have to do is put..

    1. Allow individuals to join groups.

    2. Negotiate drug prices.

    3. Allow across state line competition.

    4. Allow insurance companies to put a 6 month period for pre condition,s..

    5. Take away some of the coverage mandate,s and allow the insurance company to allow it as an additional flyer..

    6. illegal immigrants are not ENTITLED to extensive care, merley basic emergency care. There country if origin is responsible. Or liberals can create charity out of there own resources..

    7. Government workets should pay into the system for there Cadillac plans.

    8.tax credit for people who purchase plans..


    THEN ALL WOULD BE FINE FOR THE MOST OF THE PEOPLE POSSIBLE. THOSE THAT NEED IT AND THOSE ThAT PAY FOR IT..
    This is all pretty good, and I agree with most of it.

    However, it still doesn't fully address the cost issue. It addresses the prescription drugs cost, but that's a far easier fix.

    Medical billing needs to be completely reworked. Patients need estimates BEFORE CARE, which they sign off on, including out of pocket cost. Obviously this would be excepted for true emergencies.

    Different costs for in-network/out-of-network should also be abolished.
    Absolutely!!!!

    And that group price and walk in cash price is outrageous.

    Something that there willing to accept $260 as a full payment from in network insurance payment....
    They will demand $6000 in cash!!!!!!! For self pay.

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    Tellafriend: a rare red for you; completely disagree - he's a Bush republican


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    What the hell is he doing tweeting that?
    HILLARY WON

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    lol priebus just went on fox to basically announce everything trump has said about the democrats being responsible for the trumpcare bill failing is the sad ranting of a confused amphetamine addict.

    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    lol priebus just went on fox to basically announce everything trump has said about the democrats being responsible for the trumpcare bill failing is the sad ranting of a confused amphetamine addict.


    Come on. Donald Trump is a totally normal guy who has no mental illness of substance abuse issues at all.


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    U.S. equity index futures fell to a six-week low on Sunday in a sign Wall Street would start the week defensively after Republicans pulled legislation to overhaul the U.S. healthcare system in a stunning setback for President Donald Trump.

    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    It really has been fun watching Scott Adams be proven right for the past two years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hongkonger View Post
    What the hell is he doing tweeting that?
    Look at the date. He was not pleased that America had a negro President.

     
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    So now people think that Trump is a dictator wannabe who's too incompetent to actually accomplish anything. I'm not sure why Team Retard thinks that's a big improvement, but you've shown that you can spin literally anything into a positive. Cultists gonna cult.

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    Yea cause everybody that solves their disagreements via a boxing match isn't mentally ill...



     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mintjewlips View Post
    Yea cause everybody that solves their disagreements via a boxing match isn't mentally ill...
    For someone who's completely obsessed with that boxing match, you sure don't know shit about it. There was no disagreement. It was a bet, and I pocketed $500.

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    TOTALLY normal lol....

     
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