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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyB View Post
    Gallup Polls approval rating 2 months into their terms:

    Jimmy Carter - 75%

    Barack Obama - 63%

    Ronald Reagan - 60%

    George W Bush - 58%

    George HW Bush - 56%

    Bill Clinton - 53%

    Donald Trump - 37%

    He's definitely unpopular, but he's not truly that low imo, yet. It's a snapshot of Obamacare conservative infighting. It's kind of similar to the Do you like Obamacare? polls over the past years. Many on the left would answer no because it wasn't single payer, it would come in at 39%, and the GOP talked incessantly about how unpopular it was based on poor phrasing.

    The reality was even in an election that saw Trump win states not red in forever and surprise GOP strength everywhere, exit polling showed 48% saying Obamacare was about right or didn't go far enough and 47% saying it went too far. Even on a great night for the GOP, it wasn't unpopular. It was neutral at worst. An approval poll taken right now is going to have freedom caucus types disapproving of Trump for the repeal not being harsh enough. That's a long way from preferring a Democrat, which is the only important factor.

    He'll get that low, and lower, eventually on a consistent basis, but it strikes me as a bit of a protest poll at this point from his own voters. I have yet to meet someone who concedes they made a mistake voting for him. They will if he passes that garbage healthcare bill.

     
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    Trump getting bashed every weekend for playing golf is getting ridiculous now. Hitting the golf course on his downtime is probably the most inoffensive thing a sitting president could do, no?

    Yep he trolled Obama for doing the same. But we are talking golf here. It doesn't matter what he's said about Obama & golf in the past.


    Besides, it just helps muddy the water even further when it comes to addressing the disastrous decisions he's making almost daily.
    Golf is for fags, and Trump is a fag, so it makes perfect sense.
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    the reason why no one is admitting they were wrong to vote for him is that he simply hasnt been able to do anything, good or bad, in a way that has any impact on white trash.


    but like you said tho, once the deathcare bill passes, its going to be a fucking firestorm.


    a 50 year old factory worker is going to get the same medical credits as a 50 year old wall street ceo? the gutters will run red.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hongkonger View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of the Fraud View Post
    Trump getting bashed every weekend for playing golf is getting ridiculous now. Hitting the golf course on his downtime is probably the most inoffensive thing a sitting president could do, no?

    Yep he trolled Obama for doing the same. But we are talking golf here. It doesn't matter what he's said about Obama & golf in the past.


    Besides, it just helps muddy the water even further when it comes to addressing the disastrous decisions he's making almost daily.
    Golf is for fags, and Trump is a fag, so it makes perfect sense.


    Could be onto something.

    270 year old Muirfield Golf Club in Scotland had never allowed women to gain membership of its course.


    After huge pressure from various campaign groups, they held a vote.

    This was 2015

    It came back





    Confirmed sausage factory.


    Feminist heads fell off right throughout the UK.



    Although they did hold another vote just a few days ago, after they were removed from the list of courses eligible to host The British Open. (Been held there 7 times previous)


    Vote this time got passed. The fags caved.



    Not what you asked, but there you have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    the reason why no one is admitting they were wrong to vote for him is that he simply hasnt been able to do anything, good or bad, in a way that has any impact on white trash.


    but like you said tho, once the deathcare bill passes, its going to be a fucking firestorm.


    a 50 year old factory worker is going to get the same medical credits as a 50 year old wall street ceo? the gutters will run red.
    You're underestimating the stupidity of the people who voted for Trump. If they understood this sort of thing they wouldn't have voted for him in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hongkonger View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    the reason why no one is admitting they were wrong to vote for him is that he simply hasnt been able to do anything, good or bad, in a way that has any impact on white trash.


    but like you said tho, once the deathcare bill passes, its going to be a fucking firestorm.


    a 50 year old factory worker is going to get the same medical credits as a 50 year old wall street ceo? the gutters will run red.
    You're underestimating the stupidity of the people who voted for Trump. If they understood this sort of thing they wouldn't have voted for him in the first place.
    I know we've all been over this before, but the reason a lot of people voted for Trump was because Hillary and the left were denying their issues existed.

    For example, people like me said (accurately), "My health insurance premiums went up huge due to Obamacare."

    Hillary and the Democrats responded with, "That's a right wing lie. Health care costs have gone DOWN under Obamacare! And tens of millions more people are now insured! Many poor people are getting health insurance for free. This bill was a huge success!"

    Then the voter scratched his head and said to himself, "WTF was all that? I'm bringing up the real point that I'm paying more real money for worse coverage than I had before Obamacare, and I got a bunch of bullshit from Hillary telling me I'm wrong. Fuck that. I'm voting for Trump. He understands me and tells it like it really is!"

    Basically most Trump voters felt like Hillary and the Democrats were talking down to them -- often with a haughty tone of, "You don't know what you're talking about, let the smart people take care of this" -- and voted for the guy who seemed to more speak their language.

    My point is that these same people aren't going to turn on Trump until he actually fucks them over -- like sonatine said. They're willing to tolerate a lot of his shenanigans, as long as they think it will end up better for them than it was under Obama.

    It's going to take a lot of effort for the Democrats to reverse this. They went from the perception of caring about the little guy to telling the little guy why he's wrong about his own concerns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hongkonger View Post

    You're underestimating the stupidity of the people who voted for Trump. If they understood this sort of thing they wouldn't have voted for him in the first place.
    I know we've all been over this before, but the reason a lot of people voted for Trump was because Hillary and the left were denying their issues existed.

    For example, people like me said (accurately), "My health insurance premiums went up huge due to Obamacare."

    Hillary and the Democrats responded with, "That's a right wing lie. Health care costs have gone DOWN under Obamacare! And tens of millions more people are now insured! Many poor people are getting health insurance for free. This bill was a huge success!"

    Then the voter scratched his head and said to himself, "WTF was all that? I'm bringing up the real point that I'm paying more real money for worse coverage than I had before Obamacare, and I got a bunch of bullshit from Hillary telling me I'm wrong. Fuck that. I'm voting for Trump. He understands me and tells it like it really is!"

    Basically most Trump voters felt like Hillary and the Democrats were talking down to them -- often with a haughty tone of, "You don't know what you're talking about, let the smart people take care of this" -- and voted for the guy who seemed to more speak their language.

    My point is that these same people aren't going to turn on Trump until he actually fucks them over -- like sonatine said. They're willing to tolerate a lot of his shenanigans, as long as they think it will end up better for them than it was under Obama.

    It's going to take a lot of effort for the Democrats to reverse this. They went from the perception of caring about the little guy to telling the little guy why he's wrong about his own concerns.
    Yes Hillary ran a poor campaign and yes they have been slow to admit the new problems introduced by ACA that could and should be fixed (though Republicans would attack the fix). So instead they voted for the guy who was all bluster and zero substance, with a proven history as a con man. Like I said, they're stupid.

     
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    http://observer.com/2017/03/donald-t...isinformation/

    nice article if you have some time, recommend reading it there for the in-article links, but here it is

     
    The threat to the West posed by Kremlin lies—what is properly termed disinformation—is something that I and a few other specialists have raised the alarm over for years. After 2016, when Moscow weaponized disinformation to influence our presidential election, this problem is finally getting the public attention it merits, not least because identical Russian espionage techniques are currently aimed at France and Germany, which have their own elections coming up.

    The previous administration ignored this rising problem, shuttering a tiny State Department effort to counter Russian propaganda only months before the Kremlin lie machine went into overdrive against President Obama’s own party. As I’ve pointed out, Obama and his White House bear part of the blame for the Russian havoc wrought last year on Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee, thanks to their abject unwillingness to confront Vladimir Putin. By refusing to seriously confront Kremlin disinformation and deception, President Obama got more of both.

    Now this problem, which shows no signs of going away, has become even more dangerous, since the new administration has taken to parroting Russian disinformation when it suits their political needs. A propaganda loop has emerged with Kremlin lies emerging on Putin regime outlets like RT and Sputnik, then being pushed by far-right conspiracy websites such as Breitbart and InfoWars, and finally winding up on Fox News where they receive a mass audience.

    President Donald Trump is part of that audience, and this disinformation cycle is what led to his infamous tweetstorm two weekends ago that plunged our politics into chaos over his unfounded allegation that his predecessor “wiretapped” Trump Tower. That narrative has now utterly imploded, having been denounced by numerous authorities—including the former Director of National Intelligence plus the House and Senate Intelligence Committees—while late last week British intelligence and the prime minister office joined the fray after the White House implied that London had spied on Trump Tower at Obama’s behest.
    That unfounded accusation deserved the stern, unprecedented rebuke it got from our British spy “cousins,” which was backed up by the deputy director of the National Security Agency, Rick Ledgett. In a remarkable interview Ledgett described the allegation as “arrant nonsense…just crazy” while the whole idea demonstrated “a complete lack of understanding in how the relationship works” between NSA and GCHQ, its British counterpart. Furthermore, he went on, “It would be epically stupid” for GCHQ to have broken numerous laws to meddle in American politics.

    No senior official of our Intelligence Community has ever spoken publicly in this fashion, implying the White House is dishonest and unhinged—but then, we’ve never had a commander-in-chief declare open war on our spies, terming them “very anti-American” and comparing them to Nazis. Ledgett’s candor may have something to do with the fact that he is retiring next month after a 40-year career in the spy business and feels free to “speak truth to power” as they say in the movies.

    The question of where the president got the nutty idea that Obama “wiretapped” him therefore is important. Based on White House statements, Trump’s tweetstorm was inspired by comments made by Andrew Napolitano, a Fox News regular and former New Jersey judge with no background in anything relating to espionage. Notwithstanding Napolitano’s indulgence in weird conspiracy theories—he is a 9/11 truther who has pushed the idea that the Feds will enter your house to forcibly vaccinate you, additionally claiming that it was NSA, not the Russians, who hacked the Democrats last year—he was considered credible by Team Trump.

    What, then, are the origins of Napolitano’s absurd accusation that Obama called on GCHQ to spy on Trump Tower, in both circumvention and violation of numerous British and American laws—which “the judge” asserted came from “three intelligence sources”? That these sources were bogus has been made clear by Fox News, with Shepard Smith offering a stunning on-air rebuke to its own talking head:

    Fox News cannot confirm Judge Napolitano’s commentary. Fox News knows of no evidence of any kind that the now-president of the United States was surveilled at any time, in any way. Full stop.

    A bit of digging has revealed that the main “intelligence source” for Napolitano’s dishonest claim was none other than Larry Johnson, a notorious figure in espionage and security circles. Johnson does possess a modest background in the Intelligence Community, working as CIA analyst for four years at the end of the Cold War, then serving as a counterterrorism official with the State Department from 1989 to 1993. He has been out of the intelligence business for a generation, and he has spent subsequent decades vehemently denouncing his former employers.

    Johnson managed to get intermittent airtime for his denunciations of the IC, particularly in the realm of counterterrorism. He regularly castigated American officialdom for allegedly exploiting the issue for institutional benefit. Back in 2001, Johnson memorably accused Washington of inflating the “declining terrorist threat,” which left Americans “bedeviled by fantasies of terrorism”—exactly two months before 9/11.

    After that, Johnson had difficulty getting mainstream attention for his big ideas, so he moved into fringe political commentary. In 2008, he went after Barack Obama with gusto on his website, asserting based on “four sources (three who are close to senior Republicans) that there is video dynamite—Michelle Obama railing against ‘whitey’ at Jeremiah Wright’s church.” Almost a decade later, no such tape has emerged, and after that debacle Johnson was deemed a complete pariah.

    He then headed where angry failures in the West go when they are shut out of even fringe outlets at home: the Kremlin. Johnson reinvented himself as a regular on RT, Putin’s propaganda network, finding a home among the stable of freaks and rejects who get airtime on Moscow’s outlet. Since RT features avowed neo-Nazis and even an Illuminati correspondent as regulars, it can’t be said that Johnson is their most outlandish talking head.

    On Putin’s dime, Johnson has denounced American spies at every opportunity, unmasking nefarious IC plots and assassinations which others have not been able to detect. In recent months, he has towed the Putin-and-Trump line on RT, spinning conspiracy theories about the downfall of Mike Flynn, the president’s ill-fated first National Security Advisor. Johnson also went on RT to denounce the IC’s conclusion that Russian operatives were behind the hacking of the Democrats in 2016.

    Significantly, on March 5—the day after the president unleashed his “wiretapping” tweetstorm—Johnson went on RT to float his latest conspiracy theory, that President Obama illegally monitored Donald Trump and his entourage last year, co-opting IC leadership in secret efforts to derail the Republican nominee. On air, Johnson explicitly pointed the finger at British intelligence in this plot, repeatedly referring to GCHQ as the alleged culprit—though he laughably kept calling it “GHCQ.”

    This, then, is the origin of the fact-free assertion that the Brits spied on Trump for Obama: a perfect example of the RT to Fox News to White House chain of lies. In other words, this was unfettered Kremlin disinformation, proffered by a notorious crank in Putin’s service. Johnson subsequently spoke to The New York Times, at Napolitano’s request, admitting he was the source for the “bombshell” story, asserting that the information came from unnamed IC officials.

    These mysterious officials, if they exist—and, given Johnson’s track record, there’s no reason to think they do—have no idea what they’re talking about. The president’s “wiretapping” hoax has generated the strongest public denials and denunciations ever recorded in the annals of both British and American intelligence.

    None of this seems to have registered with the president. During his painful-to-watch press conference on Friday with Angela Merkel, the German chancellor, Trump brushed off questions about his tweetstorm by dumping the matter on Fox News, notwithstanding the fact that Sean Spicer, the president’s spokesman, read Napolitano’s accusation against GCHQ verbatim from the White House podium:

    I didn’t make an opinion on it. That was a statement made by a very talented lawyer on Fox. And so you shouldn’t be talking to me, you should be talking to Fox, okay?

    Since Fox News has admitted it cannot substantiate Napolitano’s claims, one wonders where that leaves the president and his tweets. Trump indicated that he stands by his “wiretapping” claim since during the presser he joked, “At least we have something in common, perhaps,” referring to allegations that NSA intercepted Chancellor Merkel’s phone calls, too.

    This issue has become a millstone around the White House’s neck, sucking all the oxygen out of the room. It’s difficult to see how the administration will get much of anything done with Congress as long as President Trump refuses to admit he made a mistake. Increasing numbers of Republicans on Capitol Hill are frustrated with the White House and its bizarre refusal to back away from an obviously false story which emanates from Moscow.

    Leading Congressional Republicans now are distancing themselves from Trump, and Rep. Tom Cole, an Oklahoma Republican, has stated that the president owes his predecessor an apology for sticking by such an ugly lie. Even Trump backers in the media are admitting that the president needs to walk himself and his administration away from this self-created debacle, offering helpful suggestions how the White House can extricate itself from the “wiretapping” quicksand.

    However, the president so far shows no signs of backing down—much less away. For all their denunciations of “fake news,” the White House has become a leading purveyor of it. As long as Trump sticks with his ridiculous story, the country will keep talking about a piece of Kremlin disinformation which has become the number-one story in Washington and across America—precisely as Moscow intended.

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    Trump tower has been wiretapped not that long ago and it led to a major gambling sting.
    Yes, there were Russians there including a top 5 most wanted.

    Feds: Russian mob ran celebrity poker games; Trump Tower apartment raided, 34 charged


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    Federal agents remove items, including computers, from an art gallery in New York on Tuesday. The agents were raiding the gallery as part of investigation into what Federal authorities in New York say was high-stakes poker games attended by professional athletes, Hollywood celebrities and Wall Street titans, run by members of Russian organized crime.

    NEW YORK — Nearly three dozen people were charged on Tuesday in what investigators said was a Russian organized crime operation that included illegal, high-stakes poker games for the rich and famous and threats of violence to make sure customers paid their debts.
    Federal authorities in New York City weren't naming names but said the poker players included pro athletes, Hollywood celebrities and Wall Street executives. None of them were charged.
    The money-laundering investigation led to arrests Tuesday in New York, Los Angeles, Miami and elsewhere around the country. There also were FBI raids at a $6 million apartment in Trump Tower on Fifth Avenue and a prestigious Madison Avenue art gallery owned by two of the defendants.
    George Venizelos, head of the New York FBI office, said the charges against 34 individuals "demonstrate the scope and reach of Russian organized crime."
    He added: "The defendants are alleged to have handled untold millions in illegal wagers placed by millionaires and billionaires, laundered millions, and in some cases are themselves multimillionaires. Crime pays only until you are arrested and prosecuted."
    New York Police Commissioner Raymond W. Kelly said proceeds from the high-stakes illegal poker games and online gambling were allegedly funneled to organized crime overseas.
    Among those named in an indictment filed in federal court was a wealthy Russian fugitive, Alimzhan Tokhtakhounov. He was already under indictment in a separate U.S. case accusing him of bribing Olympic figure skating judges at the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City.
    In a two-month period beginning in late 2011, the money-laundering ring paid Tokhtakhounov $20 million in illegal proceeds, the indictment said.
    Along with the illegal poker games, the ring operated "an international gambling business that catered to oligarchs residing in the former Soviet Union and throughout the world," the indictment said.
    Prosecutors alleged proceeds were laundered through shell companies in Cyprus and in the United States by a criminal enterprise with strong ties to Russia and Ukraine.
    Assistant U.S. Attorney Harris Fischman told a U.S. magistrate judge in Manhattan that Vadim Trincher, 52, directed much of the international racketeering enterprise from his $5 million apartment at Trump Tower.
    "From his apartment he oversaw what must have been the world's largest sports book," Fischman said in a successful argument to have Trincher held for trial without bail. "He catered to millionaires and billionaires."
    Trincher's apartment is located directly below one owned by Donald Trump, authorities said.
    Fischman said FBI agents found $75,000 in cash and $2 million in chips from a Las Vegas casino in Trincher's apartment after he was arrested at 6 a.m. He appeared in court in a white t-shirt and jeans.
    Fischman said the government had a strong case against Trincher in part because of recorded conversations between Trincher and his customers captured for several months through a court-approved wiretap.
    On one of those calls, Trincher could be heard warning a customer who owed money that "he should be careful, lest he be tortured or found underground," Fischman said. He said the government was in the process of seizing Trincher's apartment.
    Trincher's attorney, Michael Fineman, said his client was denying the allegations. He said he had lived in the United States since 1989 and in New York City for nearly a decade and also owned property in Las Vegas. He said he earned money through legal gambling, though Fischman countered that the government could only find one instance in which Trincher won $1 million at a legal poker tournament.
    Hillel Nahmad was expected to surrender in Los Angeles, authorities said. Earlier in the day, agents in New York raided the Helly Nahmad art gallery in a Madison Avenue hotel. Among charges against him, Nahmad is accused of conspiring to commit wire fraud in connection with the sale of a painting worth about $250,000. It was not immediately known who will represent him in court.
    -- The Associated Press

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    Supreme Leader Kim explains all.

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    HEY CONGRATULATIONS GUYS, NOBODY JACKING OFF OVER RUSSIA YET TODAY!!!

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    Rebekah Mercer and her Billionaire hedge fund (poker player) father & Trump. Loved this

    I think Rebekah's sister is a poker grinder.

    The notion that Robert Mercer experimented with backing any lunatic (Senate) just to fuck with establishment Republicans and the political process in general.

    Dude bought a piece of Breitbart (Bannon) and the rest is history. The extent to which his daughter was involved in bringing in all the key players like Kellyanne Conway etc and later cabinet appointments is just god.

    Entertaining, rich with detailed scenes and fulfills my cynical dark heart.


    The Blow-It-All-Up Billionaires
    http://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/mercers/

    I know it's Huff. Vanity did a piece too but I like how Vicki Ward wrote this.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesidedish View Post
    HEY CONGRATULATIONS GUYS, NOBODY JACKING OFF OVER RUSSIA YET TODAY!!!
    All this Russia talk reminded me of this vid from years back, whatever then I notice the song in the background at 1:38.

    Years and years later the same song is chosen (no pun intended) by Goyim Goddess to spoof Putin, haha weird.
    Anyhow long live turtleknife.
    Goyim Goddess spoof , viewer discretion advised
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    Electricity company Dayton Power & Light said on Monday it would shut down two coal-fired power plants in southern Ohio next year for economic reasons, a setback for the ailing coal industry but a victory for environmental activists.

    Republican President Donald Trump promised in his election campaign to restore U.S. coal jobs that he said had been destroyed by environmental regulations put into effect by his Democratic predecessor, Barack Obama.

    Dayton Power & Light, a subsidiary of The AES Corporation, said in an emailed statement that it planned to close the J.M. Stuart and Killen plants by June 2018 because they would not be “economically viable beyond mid-2018.”



    lol maga

     
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    great day for trump today

    comey says there's no evidence that Obama wiretapped trump and also confirmed that they're investigating collusion between his campaign and Russia

    because he has zero impulse control, trump just flat out lied and tweeted the following during the hearing:



    and..... was promptly fact-checked in real time by a democratic congressman who asked comey if trump's tweet was accurate:

    Comey––who had said earlier in the hearing that analysts believed Russia wanted to hurt Hillary Clinton and help Trump––said in response to the @POTUS tweet, “It certainly wasn’t our intention to say that today, ’cause we don’t have any information on that subject.”
    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fbi-direc...t-the-hearing/

     

     
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    U KNOW WHATS THE WORST PART OF ALL OF THIS???


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    SERIOUSLY FOLKS WHAT WAS TODAYS GARBAGE. I think today may have been the day politics may have jumped the shark. Lets get a cpl guys on steroids hitting 70 bombs this baseball season or something.

     
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