Time to get on the TRUMP train

[blake]

weirdly, this bill would seem to help upper middle class families (up to $150,000 for joint filers) more than anyone, as they would be able to get the same tax credit that the poorest people would get. under obamacare, these families don't get any assistance. it also helps the rich in the sense that it would cut their taxes, while the poor would get less help than under obamacare.

[sonatine]

wow even breitbart and sean hannity are against the bill that trump called "wonderful."

listening to guys like rand paul and mike lee, i'm not sure that the far right of the party will ever get behind any bill that considers health care an entitlement, or one that doesn't completely remove the federal government from health care entirely. on the flip side, there's no way that trump wants to sign a bill that will be viewed as taking away health care from poor people.

meanwhile, charles krauthammer is saying that if conservatives don't back down, trump's presidency is over.

Charles Krauthammer explained that the newly announced Obamacare replacement legislation might lead to the destruction of the Trump presidency unless conservative Republicans fell “on the their swords” and accepted the entitlements involved. He made the comments Monday on “Special Report” on Fox News.

“In the end the Republicans are gonna have to essentially, the conservatives, the ones who are more conservative, are gonna have to fall on their swords,” Krauthammer explained. “This is the signature event for the new administration. If they were to, in the end, eliminate the entitlement and put it down, I think it would destroy the presidency.

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/03...ps-presidency/

this is an absolutely fascinating dynamic being described...

he campaigned on:

build a wall
fuck with muslims
repeal obamacare
fix taxes
shrink government
save the coal industry
create manufacturing jobs



on that list, the one (1) thing he can realistically accomplish in any meaningful way is fuck with muslims, and by all accounts even thats imploding.

so if they cant nail a 3 pointer from mid court on obamacare, i mean, the show is fucking over and we arent even a third of a year into his term.

[sonatine]

[hongkonger]

weirdly, this bill would seem to help upper middle class families (up to $150,000 for joint filers) more than anyone, as they would be able to get the same tax credit that the poorest people would get. under obamacare, these families don't get any assistance. it also helps the rich in the sense that it would cut their taxes, while the poor would get less help than under obamacare.

Exactly! They want to further forget those Trump called "forgotten America." This bill is a huge gift of money from the poor to the rich. Suckers.

[hongkonger]

:lmao

[blake]

this is an absolutely fascinating dynamic being described...

he campaigned on:

build a wall
fuck with muslims
repeal obamacare
fix taxes
shrink government
save the coal industry
create manufacturing jobs



on that list, the one (1) thing he can realistically accomplish in any meaningful way is fuck with muslims, and by all accounts even thats imploding.

so if they cant nail a 3 pointer from mid court on obamacare, i mean, the show is fucking over and we arent even a third of a year into his term.

honestly, repealing obamacare would be the absolute easiest thing that trump could do on this list. congress could put a bill together tomorrow and trump could sign it immediately. for fuck’s sake, congress sent a full repeal bill to obama around 2015 or so, when they knew it would be vetoed. lol suddenly now that same bill isn’t good enough. gee, it’s almost like their 2015 repeal effort was just for show.

it can’t be overstated just how damaging this would be to trump and republicans generally if they somehow fuck up the obamacare repeal. they’ve seriously been campaigning on this for damn near a decade.

i don’t think there’s any chance that the entitlement tax credits will be removed from the bill, but on the other hand it’s hard to imagine conservatives blessing a new federal entitlement when they’ve been running on fixing the debt and repealing obamacare 24/7. if i had to guess, i suppose conservatives will have to cave cause it would be so horrifically damaging to trump if they resisted. but watching the news conference with rand paul, mike lee, louie gohmert, etc., it’s just so hard to see it. i don't even think the bill would pass the house right now, much less the senate.

aside from the entitlement issue, the bill is totally fucked up cause it won’t lower healthcare costs at all but trump and ryan says those changes will be coming later whatever that means.

[blake]

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rofl ok don

[thesidedish]

Charles W. Cooke tweets not that funny at all actually, calm down side with nothing going for u other than to pretend u might be right about something for a few hrs

first of all, his name: what a british faggot

twitter bio says "classical (lol classical, again what a british faggot) liberal"

and he's been rabid anti-trump since '15

[DirtyB]

[Mintjewlips]

Why don't the libtards start a thread where they can vent to each other and talk about how the democrats are staying the course and will lose more crucial Senate and house seats instead of continuing to fagg up this thread with their shitty opinions and convoluted facts.

[sonatine]

this is an absolutely fascinating dynamic being described...

he campaigned on:

build a wall
fuck with muslims
repeal obamacare
fix taxes
shrink government
save the coal industry
create manufacturing jobs



on that list, the one (1) thing he can realistically accomplish in any meaningful way is fuck with muslims, and by all accounts even thats imploding.

so if they cant nail a 3 pointer from mid court on obamacare, i mean, the show is fucking over and we arent even a third of a year into his term.

honestly, repealing obamacare would be the absolute easiest thing that trump could do on this list. congress could put a bill together tomorrow and trump could sign it immediately. for fuck’s sake, congress sent a full repeal bill to obama around 2015 or so, when they knew it would be vetoed. lol suddenly now that same bill isn’t good enough. gee, it’s almost like their 2015 repeal effort was just for show.

it can’t be overstated just how damaging this would be to trump and republicans generally if they somehow fuck up the obamacare repeal. they’ve seriously been campaigning on this for damn near a decade.

i don’t think there’s any chance that the entitlement tax credits will be removed from the bill, but on the other hand it’s hard to imagine conservatives blessing a new federal entitlement when they’ve been running on fixing the debt and repealing obamacare 24/7. if i had to guess, i suppose conservatives will have to cave cause it would be so horrifically damaging to trump if they resisted. but watching the news conference with rand paul, mike lee, louie gohmert, etc., it’s just so hard to see it. i don't even think the bill would pass the house right now, much less the senate.

aside from the entitlement issue, the bill is totally fucked up cause it won’t lower healthcare costs at all but trump and ryan says those changes will be coming later whatever that means.

there's a rock climbing phrase.. i think its 'rim locked' or something along those lines.. its where you end up in a place on the mountain where you cant go either up or down, youre just stuck.

the republicans are rim locked. they had one (1) chance to show up with a viable replacement and drop it in for the win:



they cant repeal obamacare, or they are proper fucked.

they cant pass this bill, or they are proper fucked.

if they do somehow pass this bill, they are just as fucked because the village idiots who are propping them up are going to be piiiiiiissed when they see how little their actual literal lives matter to the people they just voted into power.

[Mintjewlips]

I wouldn't have been mad at the Republicans for not releasing shit until the health care bill passed just like the democrats did, in fact i think they fucked up for not doing that, obviously every single detail of the bill was going to be criticised by the whining hypocritical leftist fucks.

Trump just needs to drop the facist hammer on these communist fucks in the media, asap.

[Mintjewlips]

Watching Rachel maddow channel alex jones as she's spinning her "Russian conspiracy theory" is LuLzz.

The fact that Mikhail Kalugin is still alive is proof that he wasn't a liability, we all know the FSB doesn't like liabilities.

She's still talking about the "Russian dossier" lmao, pathetic.

[sonatine]

Watching Rachel maddow channel alex jones as she's spinning her "Russian conspiracy theory" is LuLzz.

The fact that Mikhail Kalugin is still alive is proof that he wasn't a liability, we all know the FSB doesn't like liabilities.

She's still talking about the "Russian dossier" lmao, pathetic.

Its nice to see you try.

[Mintjewlips]

She seriously said "this unproven dossier"



Then went on a 3 minute tirade about the legitamicy of the dossier

[thesidedish]

Why don't the libtards start a thread where they can vent to each other and talk about how the democrats are staying the course and will lose more crucial Senate and house seats instead of continuing to fagg up this thread with their shitty opinions and convoluted facts.

u guys really are getting worse, as evidenced by how sure of himself political donkey vegas1369 talks these days

[sonatine]

Why don't the libtards start a thread where they can vent to each other and talk about how the democrats are staying the course and will lose more crucial Senate and house seats instead of continuing to fagg up this thread with their shitty opinions and convoluted facts.

u guys really are getting worse, as evidenced by how sure of himself political donkey vegas1369 talks these days

mad?

[FPS_Russia]

What's up with you conservatives supporting unlimited industrial waste in our water supply?

pol version: Red pill me on allowing unlimited industrial pollution in our drinking water.

Not being sarcastic, I don't understand how any person can support this.

[thesidedish]

FPS_Russia: Trump fell in a trap lol. The D's some R's and the media let him tell major league lie after major league lie just waiting for the right lie to scrutinize. No way Trump could of guessed they were going to hold his feet to the fire@ Obama wiretap

not sure if I like ur green rep jibberish or not


BUT MORON THE ONLY TAP I CARE TODAY ABOUT ARE THESE FREAKS ON MY SAMSUNG TV IN MY BEDROOM JFC

[blake]

Why don't the libtards start a thread where they can vent to each other and talk about how the democrats are staying the course and will lose more crucial Senate and house seats instead of continuing to fagg up this thread with their shitty opinions and convoluted facts.

if you think progressives are "losing" when the republican health care proposal would cement health insurance as a new entitlement in this country, we have different definitions of that word.