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    Quote Originally Posted by herbertstemple View Post
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    The Stock Market under Obama almost doubled during his presidency with a steady incline throughout almost his entire time in office.

    The stock market was in free fall when he took office. For the past 7 years it has recovered dramatically.

    You seem to be saying that the stock market has benefited simply from the expectations of Trump's upcoming administration. But remember that the dot-com boom was also based on nothing more than expectations and we know how that ended up.

    Maybe wait until Trump is in office and has actually done something before singing his praise in regards to the economy.
    Stock Market did well under Obama. We had the Federal Reserve printing money and pouring money into Wall Street. How the fuck could it not go up? 10 trillion extra $s of debt and our bonds were downgraded under Obama. TY Obama.

    Its a shame instead of Wall Street, Obama didn't invest some of that money into Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan and Wisconsin. We might have to put up with Hillary's screeching voice for the next few years. Guess the Rust Belt has gotten too white for the democrats to worry about.

    2016 and the democrat party got a little smaller. Its been a common theme for the last 50 years.
    I don't necessarily disagree with you about the end results, but you are conflating two different things, the creation of new money by the Fed on one hand and deficit spending by the government on the other. Presidents have very little to do with the former and must agree with Congress on the latter.

    Obama didn't "put money into Wall Street." The Fed did. Obama did put money into the states you mentioned (and all states) with the stimulus package early in his presidency, but not nearly enough to fix long-term problems and not nearly as much as he wanted to, due to the opposition of Congress. The increased deficits have resulted from reduced taxation (as a share of the GDP, there are of course individual winners and losers) and spending that went to other areas, largely related to 2 areas: defense/security and health care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MumblesBadly View Post
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    Nobody, and I mean no President, will ever will have done more for the fabulously wealthy than Barack Obama. It's one of the reason why Wall Street backed Clinton so heavily while the common working guy went for Trump. When I say common working guy I am referring to the $50,000 - $500,000 a year worker. The multi millionaires and especially the billionaires all favored the Democrats by a factor of 10:1. Obama's easy money, Trillion dollar annual deficits, and macro globalist policies really were an economic treasure trove for global millionaires and global billionaires.

    At least the Dems listened to the electorate by re-electing Nancy Pelosi as Minority Leader, and promoting NYC own Chuch Shumer in the Senate. LOL. Watch the Republicans pick up 8-10 seats in 2018. Trump will cut them to pieces next election cycle.

    It's pretty funny watching libs spin out of control blaming the Russians for everything. LOL. You do realize the Dems were BLOWN out in ALL facets of government, from town Mayor to the Presidency, I mean look at the governorships. People like Obama as a guy to have a beer with, but they sure repudiated his policies which is why the Dems have lost every election cycle since 2008.
    Wrong for 2 reasons.

    (1) Unlike most everyone else, the fabulously wealthy usually benefit from economic downturns because their access to credit during economic crises is so much better than everyone elses, allowing them to more easily weather them. In fact, "crisis capitalism" over the past 4 decades has helped the fabulously wealthy to increase their proportional of national wealth while those most sensitive to economic downturns, the middle class, have lost significant ground in turns of their share of national wealth. And George W. Bush's management of the economic set the stage for the greatest economic crisis the US has experienced since the Great Depression.

    (2) The fabulously wealthy's biggest concern isn't how to create wealth through business opportunities, but how to reduce the effect of taxes on their ability to keep that wealth and pass it on to their intended heirs. That's why the most important service that "wealth management" services provide to sugg clients is tax reduction and avoidance. GWB helped the fabulously wealthy in two significant ways during his time as president.

    First, during his first term as president, George W. Bush signed into law the reduction in the estate tax rate over time, ending with the one-year elimination of the estate tax in 2010. That estate tax holiday allowed several fabulously wealthy families avoid paying any estate tax when their fabulously wealthy parents died during that year. Included among them were George Steinbrenners' heirs, who saved an estimated $600 million.

    Second, during GWB's administration, the IRS was relatively lax in going after folks using illegal overseas tax shelters. Obama reversed that policy and stepped up efforts to go after folks using such schemes. And that effort resulted in fabulously wealthy folks like Mitt Romney scrambling to accept the ammesty offering for coming clean on illegal tax avoidance. And he pushed for and signed into law a means to collect taxes on wealth that is likely being transferred overseas for tax avoidance.

    Bottom line: George W. Bush did the most for the fabulously wealthy of any US president in recent history.



    P.S. Forget to mention how GWB pushed for and signed into law reduction of federal income taxe rate on dividends to the same as capital gains. It was so controversial, he had to dispatch his veep to cast tie-breaker vote in the Senate to put it over the top. And most dividend income is earned by the fabulously wealthy. Which is another reason why folks like Warren Buffet face lower effective federal income tax rates than the idiot middle classers who repeatedly vote for GOP candidates.
    Just more Huffington Post dribble you scanned at the truck stop. You really think the estate tax is more than a pittance in the grand scheme of things? Wow, you need to read a little more. The left elite have fucking thrived under Obama, and I mean thrived on steroids. The little guy (under $250K a year and especially under $100K a year) got crushed.

    If you don't believe that, you are simply part of the elitist wing of your party. Not part of the "elitist wing" in reality obviously, you would never get anywhere near them in real life and they laugh at you behind closed doors, but rather what you watch on MSNBC and then consider yourself a liberal. You may be a liberal, but you are and never will be a "liberal elite" although you might bump into one of them if you are delivering something to one of them.

    Truth hurts, I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
    lol at draining the swamp. now exxon/mobil's ceo is apparently trump's pick for secretary of state, which fits nicely with the 10 other billionaires trump's got lined up for positions already. i'm trying to keep an open mind but do we really want a cabinet where trump is the poorest person in the room?

    trump's cabinet is shaping up as a far right dream, just making it look like politics as usual. trump fans, get ready for amnesty and complete support for the tpp in like 60 days.

    not to mention the fact that trump's head of the EPA literally doesn't think there should be an EPA, which is neat.
    That cunt Paul Ryan will be gunning for social security and medicare. It's like the perfect storm for fucking the average american.
    Well done ladies you sheep did exactly what the rich man wanted.

    The american dream is gone

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    a tremendous number of the cabinet picks chosen to date have something interesting in common;

    they have declared open war against the organizations they have been tapped to lead.

    but hey lets give him a chance guys, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draymond View Post
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    Wrong for 2 reasons.

    (1) Unlike most everyone else, the fabulously wealthy usually benefit from economic downturns because their access to credit during economic crises is so much better than everyone elses, allowing them to more easily weather them. In fact, "crisis capitalism" over the past 4 decades has helped the fabulously wealthy to increase their proportional of national wealth while those most sensitive to economic downturns, the middle class, have lost significant ground in turns of their share of national wealth. And George W. Bush's management of the economic set the stage for the greatest economic crisis the US has experienced since the Great Depression.

    (2) The fabulously wealthy's biggest concern isn't how to create wealth through business opportunities, but how to reduce the effect of taxes on their ability to keep that wealth and pass it on to their intended heirs. That's why the most important service that "wealth management" services provide to sugg clients is tax reduction and avoidance. GWB helped the fabulously wealthy in two significant ways during his time as president.

    First, during his first term as president, George W. Bush signed into law the reduction in the estate tax rate over time, ending with the one-year elimination of the estate tax in 2010. That estate tax holiday allowed several fabulously wealthy families avoid paying any estate tax when their fabulously wealthy parents died during that year. Included among them were George Steinbrenners' heirs, who saved an estimated $600 million.

    Second, during GWB's administration, the IRS was relatively lax in going after folks using illegal overseas tax shelters. Obama reversed that policy and stepped up efforts to go after folks using such schemes. And that effort resulted in fabulously wealthy folks like Mitt Romney scrambling to accept the ammesty offering for coming clean on illegal tax avoidance. And he pushed for and signed into law a means to collect taxes on wealth that is likely being transferred overseas for tax avoidance.

    Bottom line: George W. Bush did the most for the fabulously wealthy of any US president in recent history.



    P.S. Forget to mention how GWB pushed for and signed into law reduction of federal income taxe rate on dividends to the same as capital gains. It was so controversial, he had to dispatch his veep to cast tie-breaker vote in the Senate to put it over the top. And most dividend income is earned by the fabulously wealthy. Which is another reason why folks like Warren Buffet face lower effective federal income tax rates than the idiot middle classers who repeatedly vote for GOP candidates.
    Just more Huffington Post dribble you scanned at the truck stop. You really think the estate tax is more than a pittance in the grand scheme of things? Wow, you need to read a little more. The left elite have fucking thrived under Obama, and I mean thrived on steroids. The little guy (under $250K a year and especially under $100K a year) got crushed.

    If you don't believe that, you are simply part of the elitist wing of your party. Not part of the "elitist wing" in reality obviously, you would never get anywhere near them in real life and they laugh at you behind closed doors, but rather what you watch on MSNBC and then consider yourself a liberal. You may be a liberal, but you are and never will be a "liberal elite" although you might bump into one of them if you are delivering something to one of them.

    Truth hurts, I know.
    Both of you are saying the little guy got fucked. You're only arguing over which administration fucked the little guy more.

     
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    Both parties are fucking the little man but the r's fuck us worse and don't even try and hide the fact that they do it.


    Trump ran as the anti wall street candidate and then turns around and appoints 3 goldman sachs big wigs.
    You guys realize this right?
    He just flat out lies to your faces and doesn't give a fuck.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by big dick View Post
    Both parties are fucking the little man but the r's fuck us worse and don't even try and hide the fact that they do it.


    Trump ran as the anti wall street candidate and then turns around and appoints 3 goldman sachs big wigs.
    You guys realize this right?
    He just flat out lies to your faces and doesn't give a fuck.

    THEY ALL DO YOU MORON.
    SHUT UP AND KEEP STAYING AT HOME, DAD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big dick View Post
    Both parties are fucking the little man but the r's fuck us worse and don't even try and hide the fact that they do it.


    Trump ran as the anti wall street candidate and then turns around and appoints 3 goldman sachs big wigs.
    You guys realize this right?
    He just flat out lies to your faces and doesn't give a fuck.
    Trump has not even been inaugurated yet. WTF is your problem? You are really an angry man. Why the fuck do you give a shit about who is President? Your bets, win or lose, are still going to pay what they pay. You still have a wife that collects health benefits teaching handicap children. So what the fuck is your issue? You are just angry for some reason and I don't get it.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by big dick View Post
    Both parties are fucking the little man but the r's fuck us worse and don't even try and hide the fact that they do it.


    Trump ran as the anti wall street candidate and then turns around and appoints 3 goldman sachs big wigs.
    You guys realize this right?
    He just flat out lies to your faces and doesn't give a fuck.
    You have too see where this goes. Give them time to see where they are headed.

    There is actually precedent for this. When The Securities & Exchange was being formed, FDR placed Joe Kennedy in charge of it. He was one of the biggest crooks in the Stock Market prior to the SEC and FDR thought because of this he was well qualified to regulate Wall Street.

    Not saying that Trumps appointees are crooks or honest people, but you have to have people with knowledge of the system to reign in the system.



     
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    Quote Originally Posted by herbertstemple View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by big dick View Post
    Both parties are fucking the little man but the r's fuck us worse and don't even try and hide the fact that they do it.


    Trump ran as the anti wall street candidate and then turns around and appoints 3 goldman sachs big wigs.
    You guys realize this right?
    He just flat out lies to your faces and doesn't give a fuck.
    You have too see where this goes. Give them time to see where they are headed.

    There is actually precedent for this. When The Securities & Exchange was being formed, FDR placed Joe Kennedy in charge of it. He was one of the biggest crooks in the Stock Market prior to the SEC and FDR thought because of this he was well qualified to regulate Wall Street.

    Not saying that Trumps appointees are crooks or honest people, but you have to have people with knowledge of the system to reign in the system.


    The question I ask myself is this. Why are these billionaires taking these jobs in Trumps cabinet? Are they patriotic? For the good of the people?
    Why would a guy like mnuchin take that job?
    The labor secretary is about as anti labor as they come. Ex ceo ofc. He doesn't want humans as employees he wants robots to do the work. He said robots don't show up late or sue for discrimination.The man wants to phase out jobs for humans and replace humans with robots.
    Is he just going to do a 360 now and do what Trump tells him to do?
    This guy is in charge of the labor department now.
    Scary

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyB View Post
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    The market did not double under obama stop lying.

    It was pretty low to begin with, another never trump character that will never accept his greatness, we get it.
    Sometimes I forget just how unbelievably stupid you are.

    DJIA on Jan 20, 2009 - 8,279
    DJIA on Nov 7, 2016 - 18,332
    Increase - 121%

    S&P500 on Jan 20, 2009 - 805
    S&P500 on Nov 7, 2016 - 2131
    Increase - 165%

    So i guess the president is solely responsible for market growth? Jesus what a fucking dumbass.

    You and the other libtards are fucking retarded if you think the president directly just waves his pen and creates millions of jobs and makes the market double ALL ON HIS OWN.

    barry you are the most pathetic excuse for a college education, you really do have a case for a law suit to get a full refund on your shitty Marxist brain washing IMO.

     
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    Says the dipshit who was certain that the stock market didn't double since 2008 and gets his news from Alex Jones.
    You could have googled and found out about the stock market but you chose to deny what is a Fact and then have the balls to call someone a dumb fuck when he was 100% correct.
    You're the dummy jewlips + a huge asshole on top of being a dummy.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by big dick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by herbertstemple View Post

    You have too see where this goes. Give them time to see where they are headed.

    There is actually precedent for this. When The Securities & Exchange was being formed, FDR placed Joe Kennedy in charge of it. He was one of the biggest crooks in the Stock Market prior to the SEC and FDR thought because of this he was well qualified to regulate Wall Street.

    Not saying that Trumps appointees are crooks or honest people, but you have to have people with knowledge of the system to reign in the system.


    The question I ask myself is this. Why are these billionaires taking these jobs in Trumps cabinet? Are they patriotic? For the good of the people?
    Why would a guy like mnuchin take that job?
    The labor secretary is about as anti labor as they come. Ex ceo ofc. He doesn't want humans as employees he wants robots to do the work. He said robots don't show up late or sue for discrimination.The man wants to phase out jobs for humans and replace humans with robots.
    Is he just going to do a 360 now and do what Trump tells him to do?
    This guy is in charge of the labor department now.
    Scary
    They are going to help President Trump Make America Great Again. Liberals should stop whining and try to make the democratic party relevant again.

    BTW, won the Senatorial seat in Louisiana Saturday night. Another easy win for the GOP.




     
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    Quote Originally Posted by herbertstemple View Post
    They are going to help President Trump Make America Great Again. Liberals should stop whining and try to make the democratic party relevant again.

    BTW, won the Senatorial seat in Louisiana Saturday night. Another easy win for the GOP.




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    The song "Happy Days are Here Again" was written at the very beginning of the Great Depression.

    That's the same Great Depression that grew throughout Herbert Hoover's presidency. Herbert Hoover was a conservative Republican with no previous elected office experience.

    It was FDR, a liberal Democrat, who ended it by fighting big business. His New Deal was pretty much the birth of American liberalism.

     
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    SantaCruz seeing that name too often these days

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by hongkonger View Post
    Lol you fucktards think this election can be rigged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
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    Lol you fucktards think this election can be rigged.

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    And how are those two statements at odds?
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    If our elections had any integrity at all people wouldn't give a rats ass if there was a recount. Our riggable elections aren't there to stop a Trump, they're to stop a genuine threat like Bernie or god forbid Dr Jill Stein.
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