Time to get on the TRUMP train

[hongkonger]

If nukes start raining down on Europe, Russia and America. Then humanity doesn't deserve this beautiful planet anyway.


But out of interest. How far away would one have to be from impact point to survive a nuke strike. 5, 20, 50 miles?


I live in a major UK port city and we'd be probably one of the first hit.

If there were really a massive nuclear war:

-- You probably wouldn't want to survive

-- You could survive the initial blasts by being far enough away from any of them (out in the middle of nowhere), or by being underground with some shielding (even in a standard basement is ok if you're away from windows, but farther underground is better)

-- You would most likely still be done in by radioactive fallout contaminating the water, food and air for many years to come. Even with expert survival skills, nuclear winter would drastically reduce the supply of every kind of food and what remained would be severely contaminated.

[hongkonger]

State props are back:

US Presidential Election - Individual State Electoral Votes Winner
Tue 11/8 303 Republican candidate wins Alaska -375
8:00AM 304 Democratic candidate wins Alaska +258
Tue 11/8 305 Republican candidate wins Arizona +100
8:00AM 306 Democratic candidate wins Arizona -140
Tue 11/8 311 Republican candidate wins Colorado +435
8:00AM 312 Democratic candidate wins Colorado -705
Tue 11/8 313 Republican candidate wins Connecticut +1375
8:00AM 314 Democratic candidate wins Connecticut -3425
Tue 11/8 317 Republican candidate wins Florida +250
8:00AM 318 Democratic candidate wins Florida -350
Tue 11/8 319 Republican candidate wins Georgia -260
8:00AM 320 Democratic candidate wins Georgia +180
Tue 11/8 325 Republican candidate wins Illinois +1200
8:00AM 326 Democratic candidate wins Illinois -2600
Tue 11/8 329 Republican candidate wins Iowa +140
8:00AM 330 Democratic candidate wins Iowa -180
Tue 11/8 333 Republican candidate wins Kentucky -2600
8:00AM 334 Democratic candidate wins Kentucky +1200
Tue 11/8 335 Republican candidate wins Louisiana -1780
8:00AM 336 Democratic candidate wins Louisiana +870
Tue 11/8 337 Republican candidate wins Maine +515
8:00AM 338 Democratic candidate wins Maine -945
Tue 11/8 343 Republican candidate wins Michigan +600
8:00AM 344 Democratic candidate wins Michigan -1200
Tue 11/8 345 Republican candidate wins Minnesota +600
8:00AM 346 Democratic candidate wins Minnesota -1200
Tue 11/8 349 Republican candidate wins Missouri -420
8:00AM 350 Democratic candidate wins Missouri +300
Tue 11/8 353 Republican candidate wins Nebraska -1780
8:00AM 354 Democratic candidate wins Nebraska +870
Tue 11/8 355 Republican candidate wins Nevada +250
8:00AM 356 Democratic candidate wins Nevada -350
Tue 11/8 357 Republican candidate wins New Hampshire +450
8:00AM 358 Democratic candidate wins New Hampshire -750
Tue 11/8 359 Republican candidate wins New Jersey +1375
8:00AM 360 Democratic candidate wins New Jersey -3425
Tue 11/8 361 Republican candidate wins New Mexico +735
8:00AM 362 Democratic candidate wins New Mexico -1555
Tue 11/8 365 Republican candidate wins North Carolina +250
8:00AM 366 Democratic candidate wins North Carolina -350
Tue 11/8 369 Republican candidate wins Ohio +170
8:00AM 370 Democratic candidate wins Ohio -230
Tue 11/8 371 Republican candidate wins Oklahoma -3000
8:00AM 372 Democratic candidate wins Oklahoma +1300
Tue 11/8 373 Republican candidate wins Oregon +1200
8:00AM 374 Democratic candidate wins Oregon -2600
Tue 11/8 375 Republican candidate wins Pennsylvania +525
8:00AM 376 Democratic candidate wins Pennsylvania -975
Tue 11/8 385 Republican candidate wins Texas -635
8:00AM 386 Democratic candidate wins Texas +415
Tue 11/8 391 Republican candidate wins Virginia +655
8:00AM 392 Democratic candidate wins Virginia -1365
Tue 11/8 393 Republican candidate wins Washington +1375
8:00AM 394 Democratic candidate wins Washington -3425
Tue 11/8 395 Republican candidate wins West Virginia -4800
8:00AM 396 Democratic candidate wins West Virginia +1600
Tue 11/8 397 Republican candidate wins Wisconsin +475
8:00AM 398 Democratic candidate wins Wisconsin -825
Tue 11/8 399 Republican candidate wins Wyoming -2600
8:00AM 400 Democratic candidate wins Wyoming +1200

There are some interesting states left out there. I wonder what kind of odds you could get on that third party Mormon winning Utah.

[sonatine]

You want to be near a planetary pole to survive a nuclear war. Irradiated airborne material will gather in a ring around the horizontal center of the planet. I wont bother to explain why because most of you dont believe in science in the first place.

[hongkonger]

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...russia-n666636
"The Obama administration is contemplating an unprecedented cyber covert action against Russia in retaliation for alleged Russian interference in the American presidential election, U.S. intelligence officials told NBC News."

I guess that was just her public position.
Just for telling the truth about our dear leader and revealing unclassified emails we're nearing nuclear war.


TBF There is a foreign nation meddling in our elections, undermining our national security, costing us astronomical sums of $ etc.

Spot on about AIPAC. Throw in Saudi Arabia as well.

[FPS_Russia]

Just a reminder, Hillary and Trump aren't the only ones running for president.

[limitles]

Just a reminder, Hillary and Trump aren't the only ones running for president.

Jill Stein has not been on my radar screen at all and her interview with Fox "News" was impressive.

I have to imagine the headline purported to be hers on realclearpolitics.com was a butcher job.

btw realclearpolitics is owned by a former British MP nut case who was basically forced to resign.

[Shizzmoney]

Embedded Tweet

https://twitter.com/twt/status/784876100971208704

[limitles]

Assuming a length of 1,000 miles and a height of 40 feet (12 metres), Bernstein reckon that the wall would require $711m worth of concrete and $240m worth of cement. Including labour, the total cost of between $15 billion and $25 billion is a bit more than Mr Trump's suggested $10 billion.
http://www.economist.com/




Trump’s plan is based on a failed understanding of how the banking system works and could never work, as he’s proposed it. Worse yet, if he tried as president to implement the plan, it would have major ramifications beyond just Mexico.


Trump’s initial proposal as to how Mexico will be forced to ‘pay for the wall’ was unwise, unworkable, and displayed an astonishing lack of understanding of how global finance actually works, as I have written in detail before. His proposal, which relies on vague legal authority to force banks to cut off their customers’ access to move their own money around the world, assumes that American banks have the ability to cut off payments from any non-citizen or lawful visitor: they don’t. His plan, if implemented, would essentially shut off the ability for most Americans to send funds to anyone in the world because Trump’s proposal requires them to prove citizenship or legal status to their bank.


Banks today are not required to ask whether you are a citizen, legal resident, or lack proper legal status. Anyone can open an account with proper identification for taxes and proof of identity. Paypal can require a thumbprint ID to send money on a phone, but there is no requirement that banks see your birth certificate or passport. The majority of Americans do not own a valid U.S. passport and would struggle to proactively prove they have a right to send money overseas under Trump’s plan. And most people who send money overseas are U.S. citizens or are legally working, staying, or visiting the U.S.


Trump’s plan to pay for the wall is not targeted at Mexico. It affects the entire world. His proposed rule would require that “no alien may wire money outside of the United States unless the alien first provides a document establishing his lawful presence in the United States.”


That means that anyone in the U.S. wishing to send money anywhere in the world would have to establish lawful presence in the U.S. Thus, rather than just being targeted at Mexico, Trump’s plan would affect China, India, the Philippines, and Nigeria – countries with citizens who, combined, receive almost twice as much money from family members living in America than do all citizens of Mexico combined.


In fact, according to research by the Pew Center, more than 80% of all remittances made by people working in America go to countries other than Mexico. Has Trump considered the global ramifications of his proposal?


For the over 45 million Americans who were born abroad, as well as anyone with family or friends, businesses transactions, or even travels abroad, your ability to send your own money easily and conveniently when you want it is at risk under the Trump plan. The focus of the debate should not be about whether the issue of Mexico paying for the wall was raised at the Trump-Peña Nieto meeting or not, but rather that the plan itself is built on false and reckless assumptions about how the real world works.


In sum, Trump’s visit to Mexico was a test beyond whether a presidential candidate who has made racist remarks about immigrants from a country can return to that country and have a productive conversation at the presidential level. It was a test as to whether Trump understands the real world of global finance, trade, and the economic importance of the U.S.-Mexican relationship. Up until this point, Trump has failed that test in ways that could prove dangerous if he is elected.
http://fortune.com/2016/09/01/donald...mexico-wall-2/

[Shizzmoney]

[Gordman]

[limitles]

the back of her t-shirt reads

Cause I can't

[DirtyB]

Just a reminder, Hillary and Trump aren't the only ones running for president.

PPP poll of Florida voters taken this week-

Hillary Clinton - 46%
Donald Trump - 42%
Gary Johnson - 5%
Ken Bone - 4%
Jill Stein - 1%

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...ein-in-florida

[tyde]

Barry

I think every last poster and lurker here realizes you are a bleeding heart liberal

but I want to know exactly how and why you can possibly support Hillary Clinton

please spare me the carefully crafted diversions to Trump, and save the Washington Post links please

just explain to me how you can in good faith actually vote for and support this venomous lying twat

TIA

[Sanlmar]

You want to be near a planetary pole to survive a nuclear war. Irradiated airborne material will gather in a ring around the horizontal center of the planet. I wont bother to explain why because most of you dont believe in science in the first place.

So your saying Chaps would be free rolling the apocalypse?

I haven't done the math but that just doesn't sound right.

[FPS_Russia]

Just a reminder, Hillary and Trump aren't the only ones running for president.

PPP poll of Florida voters taken this week-

Hillary Clinton - 46%
Donald Trump - 42%
Gary Johnson - 5%
Ken Bone - 4%
Jill Stein - 1%

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...ein-in-florida

That's tragic, but it's not because of her policies. Her policies are about as popular as Bernie's. I'd like to see people like Jill Stein run as a Democrat. Throw these right wingers out of the party.

Feingold/Stein 2020 on the Democratic ticket

[tyde]

379 PAGES in and just under 200,000 views later

still haven't seen ONE single reason to vote for Hillary Clinton

nothing but non stop liberal bashing Trump for being an anti establishment game changer who has singlehandedly made this election and the entire presidential electoral process his BITCH

and win or lose, transformed this country forever

and please spare me the usual anti GOP rhetoric and links to bought and paid for libtard websites dedicated to spreading a false narrative

[blake]

Barry

I think every last poster and lurker here realizes you are a bleeding heart liberal

but I want to know exactly how and why you can possibly support Hillary Clinton

please spare me the carefully crafted diversions to Trump, and save the Washington Post links please

just explain to me how you can in good faith actually vote for and support this venomous lying twat

TIA

but this question misses the point entirely because nobody likes hillary..... people voting for her are just choosing the candidate that is not "challenged."

i truly think that trump supporters don't see what the rest of us see. you all think he's funny and "tells it like it is," when the rest of the country thinks he lacks motor skills, has difficulty spotting glaringly obvious issues and seems to have the temperament of a child.

you can attack hillary all you want, and a lot of those attacks will be correct. but none of those flaws would be worse than being "mentally subnormal," at least not for the job of president. (sorry, i don't know the politically correct way of describing someone in trump's condition. apparently, "retarded" is out.)

it's sad that we're even having this discussion. who would have thought i would need to explain why having serious mental issues should be a disqualifier for the presidency, but i guess that's where we are in 2016

[thesidedish]

Barry

I think every last poster and lurker here realizes you are a bleeding heart liberal

but I want to know exactly how and why you can possibly support Hillary Clinton

please spare me the carefully crafted diversions to Trump, and save the Washington Post links please

just explain to me how you can in good faith actually vote for and support this venomous lying twat

TIA

but this question misses the point entirely because nobody likes hillary..... people voting for her are just choosing the candidate that is not "challenged."

i truly think that trump supporters don't see what the rest of us see. you all think he's funny and "tells it like it is," when the rest of the country thinks he lacks motor skills, has difficulty spotting glaringly obvious issues and seems to have the temperament of a child.

you can attack hillary all you want, and a lot of those attacks will be correct. but none of those flaws would be worse than being "mentally subnormal," at least not for the job of president. (sorry, i don't know the politically correct way of describing someone in trump's condition. apparently, "retarded" is out.)

it's sad that we're even having this discussion. who would have thought i would need to explain why having serious mental issues should be a disqualifier for the presidency, but i guess that's where we are in 2016

He's crazy like a fox moron, just because u don't get it doesn't mean he doesnt

[GambleBotsChafedPenis]

There are some interesting states left out there. I wonder what kind of odds you could get on that third party Mormon winning Utah.

got some Mormon friends who keep talking that guy up...im no daly or anything, but I don't think it would be the worst bet in the world at +1000 or better...while I don't think it's gonna happen, if the mormons think both choices are absolutely reprehensible I could see them voting for one of their own to say 'fuck you' to everybody else even though it wouldn't matter in the grand scheme of the entire election...

[DirtyB]

Barry

I think every last poster and lurker here realizes you are a bleeding heart liberal

but I want to know exactly how and why you can possibly support Hillary Clinton

please spare me the carefully crafted diversions to Trump, and save the Washington Post links please

just explain to me how you can in good faith actually vote for and support this venomous lying twat

TIA

At this point, my support for Hillary is based entirely on the fact that I'm genuinely looking forward to watching you cry like a little bitch after she wins.