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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    No Republican who excuses Trump’s corrupt pardoning if convicted felons is ever allowed to complain about “law and order” again. I hope the rioters burn down their houses and leave decent people alone.
    Sincerely asking: Back in 2001 at the very end of his presidency when Bill Clinton pardoned absconded-white collar criminal Marc Rich after his wife donated something like $250K to the Clintons legal fund (or something similar), did the leading Democrats of the day make much of fuss about such a corrupt act?
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    I actually hope this [second impeachment] succeeds, because I want Trump put down politically like a sick, 14-year-old dog. ... I don't want him complicating the 2024 primary season. I just want him done.
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    Were Republicans cowardly or unethical not to go along with [convicting Trump in the second impeachment Senate trial]? No. The smart move was to reject it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MumblesBadly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    No Republican who excuses Trump’s corrupt pardoning if convicted felons is ever allowed to complain about “law and order” again. I hope the rioters burn down their houses and leave decent people alone.
    Sincerely asking: Back in 2001 at the very end of his presidency when Bill Clinton pardoned absconded-white collar criminal Marc Rich after his wife donated something like $250K to the Clintons legal fund (or something similar), did the leading Democrats of the day make much of fuss about such a corrupt act?
    I don't recall but Republicans sure did and that was way less corrupt than Trump. The people he pardons broke the law for his benefit, mostly to cover up Trump himself breaking the law.

    Clinton later expressed regret for that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MumblesBadly View Post

    Sincerely asking: Back in 2001 at the very end of his presidency when Bill Clinton pardoned absconded-white collar criminal Marc Rich after his wife donated something like $250K to the Clintons legal fund (or something similar), did the leading Democrats of the day make much of fuss about such a corrupt act?
    I don't recall but Republicans sure did and that was way less corrupt than Trump. The people he pardons broke the law for his benefit, mostly to cover up Trump himself breaking the law.

    Clinton later expressed regret for that one.
    LOL Bill Clinton’s faux mea culpa, but your points that I’ve bolded above brings up an interesting question: Why hasn’t the law-and-order Republican who runs this site spoken out for Trump’s presidency to end as soon as possible given his worse-than-Nixon criminality?

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    I actually hope this [second impeachment] succeeds, because I want Trump put down politically like a sick, 14-year-old dog. ... I don't want him complicating the 2024 primary season. I just want him done.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Were Republicans cowardly or unethical not to go along with [convicting Trump in the second impeachment Senate trial]? No. The smart move was to reject it.

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    Something for Druff to consider for the school year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe View Post


    Something for Druff to consider for the school year.
    Get him on radio and ask if he remembers Master Scalir.

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    Uh oh, looks like Tucker is taking one of those Bill O'Reilly vacations.
    If the Mr Pillow guy threatened to yank ads from him, who is left?
    #Goya?


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyG_415 View Post
    Uh oh, looks like Tucker is taking one of those Bill O'Reilly vacations.
    If the Mr Pillow guy threatened to yank ads from him, who is left?
    #Goya?

    you are obsessed with fox news, what a faggot you are

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyG_415 View Post
    Uh oh, looks like Tucker is taking one of those Bill O'Reilly vacations.
    If the Mr Pillow guy threatened to yank ads from him, who is left?
    #Goya?

    you are obsessed with fox news, what a faggot you are
    He’s the only person on this site that religiously watches Fox News yet daily claims other people watch it. Truly bizarre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyG_415 View Post
    Uh oh, looks like Tucker is taking one of those Bill O'Reilly vacations.
    If the Mr Pillow guy threatened to yank ads from him, who is left?
    #Goya?

    you are obsessed with fox news, what a faggot you are
    You would know about obsession...

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    This new RVAT group (Republican Voters Against Trump -- the ones who put out that Reagan ad posted on this page) -- I don't know anything about them, but I'd be shocked if they were real Republicans.

    They may have once been Republicans -- even recently -- but I doubt they are anymore.

    Same thing with the Lincoln Project.

    It's so obvious regarding the ads they put out. There are some legitimate criticisms that anti-Trump Repubicans can make against him, while not invalidating their own political views. These ads rarely display those. Instead, they play exactly like you'd expect a Democratic attack ad to play. For example, how many Republicans today would describe America as a racist police state? Very few. That's a popular position on the left, but almost no Republicans believe that.

    In general, people aren't good at expressing criticism from others' points of view, and coming off as sincere. Their own biases always get in the way.

    No Republican is going to watch that ad and think to themselves, "Wow, under Trump we DO live in a racist police state! Better vote for Biden!"

    Laughable.

    I won't deny that these ads are effective, though. If Democrats can portray that even Trump's own party is abandoning him, they're much more likely to get swing votes and even some crossover Republican votes from people who don't want to be on a sinking ship. That's the real point of these ads. They're just really dishonest in what they purport to be.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyG_415 View Post
    Uh oh, looks like Tucker is taking one of those Bill O'Reilly vacations.
    If the Mr Pillow guy threatened to yank ads from him, who is left?
    #Goya?

    Jesse Dollemore absolutely DESTROYS Tucker Carlson and Fox News over this matter.

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    I actually hope this [second impeachment] succeeds, because I want Trump put down politically like a sick, 14-year-old dog. ... I don't want him complicating the 2024 primary season. I just want him done.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Were Republicans cowardly or unethical not to go along with [convicting Trump in the second impeachment Senate trial]? No. The smart move was to reject it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    This new RVAT group (Republican Voters Against Trump -- the ones who put out that Reagan ad posted on this page) -- I don't know anything about them, but I'd be shocked if they were real Republicans.

    They may have once been Republicans -- even recently -- but I doubt they are anymore.

    Same thing with the Lincoln Project.

    It's so obvious regarding the ads they put out. There are some legitimate criticisms that anti-Trump Repubicans can make against him, while not invalidating their own political views. These ads rarely display those. Instead, they play exactly like you'd expect a Democratic attack ad to play. For example, how many Republicans today would describe America as a racist police state? Very few. That's a popular position on the left, but almost no Republicans believe that.

    In general, people aren't good at expressing criticism from others' points of view, and coming off as sincere. Their own biases always get in the way.

    No Republican is going to watch that ad and think to themselves, "Wow, under Trump we DO live in a racist police state! Better vote for Biden!"

    Laughable.

    I won't deny that these ads are effective, though. If Democrats can portray that even Trump's own party is abandoning him, they're much more likely to get swing votes and even some crossover Republican votes from people who don't want to be on a sinking ship. That's the real point of these ads. They're just really dishonest in what they purport to be.
    Alternatively, they are 'real Republicans' who believe in the party and see ousting Trump as the correct long play. They're not trying to appeal to Republicans like you who claim to be able to stomach this lunatic.

    Trump has completely upended much of the party and its principles. Brazen corruption, perpetual lying, and willful ignorance in the face of a pandemic that is completely out of control.

    Good to see some Republicans still possess a spine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    This new RVAT group (Republican Voters Against Trump -- the ones who put out that Reagan ad posted on this page) -- I don't know anything about them, but I'd be shocked if they were real Republicans.

    They may have once been Republicans -- even recently -- but I doubt they are anymore.

    Same thing with the Lincoln Project.

    It's so obvious regarding the ads they put out. There are some legitimate criticisms that anti-Trump Repubicans can make against him, while not invalidating their own political views. These ads rarely display those. Instead, they play exactly like you'd expect a Democratic attack ad to play. For example, how many Republicans today would describe America as a racist police state? Very few. That's a popular position on the left, but almost no Republicans believe that.

    In general, people aren't good at expressing criticism from others' points of view, and coming off as sincere. Their own biases always get in the way.

    No Republican is going to watch that ad and think to themselves, "Wow, under Trump we DO live in a racist police state! Better vote for Biden!"

    Laughable.

    I won't deny that these ads are effective, though. If Democrats can portray that even Trump's own party is abandoning him, they're much more likely to get swing votes and even some crossover Republican votes from people who don't want to be on a sinking ship. That's the real point of these ads. They're just really dishonest in what they purport to be.
    Alternatively, they are 'real Republicans' who believe in the party and see ousting Trump as the correct long play. They're not trying to appeal to Republicans like you who claim to be able to stomach this lunatic.

    Trump has completely upended much of the party and its principles. Brazen corruption, perpetual lying, and willful ignorance in the face of a pandemic that is completely out of control.

    Good to see some Republicans still possess a spine.

    The fact that there are Americans (Druff-type republicans) out there who know he lies and don't care is the most disturbing. I've heard Trump supporters say, when questioned about how they feel about the constant lying, will say "Well, yeah, but that's just Trump, that's just how he is." I wonder how many of these people would feel the same if they were lied constantly to by a spouse or a child or even a boss ("Of course your job is secure!"). Many Conservative Christians believe that the end justifies the means, and that if lying and cheating is what's needed to force their agenda upon the world, so be it. Where that attitude falls into the teachings of Jesus I have yet to figure out.

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    republican judges are more important than Trump in the long run...so a real republican will vote Trump even though he is a putz.

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