When Trump gets acquitted, the market is gonna get a bump correct? Cause thats all that matters to me.
When Trump gets acquitted, the market is gonna get a bump correct? Cause thats all that matters to me.
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Really hoping half the crowd are under cover democrats with some sweet chants ready to go.Originally Posted by sonatine
Are you at all embarrassed by your party completely capitulating to this doddering lunatic?
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I detest both Trump and the GOPers in Congress for caving to the ridiculous leverage he has over them given the $300+ million war chest Trump has already raised, amplified by his incredible reach to his base in the Twitterverse, that he could use to crush their hopes of surviving a primary challenge if they stray from full-throatedly supporting him. But, hey, Republicans are supposed to be paragons of morality and shining examples of acting on principle, amirite, Druff?Are you at all embarrassed by your party completely capitulating to this doddering lunatic?
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Oh that rascally GOP controlled Congress serious question why do you faggots argue politics no one is getting their mind changed by some zinger post the fuck are you losers doing
Two answers to this.Are you at all embarrassed by your party completely capitulating to this doddering lunatic?
First off, what is the party's choice here? He's the guy for 2020. You can say that they could have nominated someone different, but that's not happening in either party involving in an incumbent in this day and age.
The Democrats are not interested in bipartisanship. There's no such thing as, "If we don't support Trump, you guys back off and quit with the far left proposals."
Let's take the hypothetical world where a lot of Republicans reject Trump. The party would splinter into very angry factions hating each other, Democrats would easily win the Presidency, and they'd also take back the Senate. We'd be looking at the Democrats in control of all three houses in 2021, and we'd see all kinds of new laws passed which directly contradict the Republican platform in every way.
So what's better? Support an imperfect and sometimes weird incumbent who, when it comes down to it, is mostly aligned with mainstream Republican interests? Or take a hardline stance against the President, destroy the party, and cede complete control to the Democrats? The answer for most Republicans is obvious.
Second, when it comes down to it, it's more important to me what Trump does than what he says. I have agreed with the vast majority of Trump's decisions while in office, and his "I don't give a shit what my opponents or other countries think" attitude is actually a positive at times. He's a guy who actually attempts to do a lot of what he promised, which is refreshing.
I was anti-Trump in 2016, was very unhappy to see him win the primary, and didn't vote for him (or Hillary) in the election. I have warmed to him somewhat in the 3+ years since. I see all of his flaws -- and they're numerous -- but given the nasty and increasingly extreme politicians on the left nowadays, I think he's actually the type of President the Republicans need right now, as strange as it sounds.
I'll be voting for him this time around.
Here is the type of shit we'd be looking forward to if the Democrats were to take all 3 houses:
Socialized medicine
"Free" college for all
Universal basic income
No bail except for the most violent of violent felons (see NYC in 2020)
Transgender 3-year-olds
Required use of preferred pronouns under penalty of law
Boycott/Divest/Sanction of Israel
Wealth tax
High inheritance tax
Outlawing of death penalty
$15 minimum wage federally
Complete college loan forgiveness
Black reparations
Male-to-female transgenders being force-allowed into all women's sports
Return of highly burdensome regulations which kill jobs
70%+ upper tax bracket
Four month waits to see specialist doctors or get tests done
Tons of laws crafted around identity politics
Making horrible deals with terrorist groups and countries in a vain attempt to achieve "peace"
Scale-down of military readiness and capabilties
Higher taxes for everyone middle class and above
Hiring and salary quotas for "underrepresented" groups in all industries
I could go on and on.
None of the above is paranoia of the extreme. These are all positions championed by many of the current Democratic Presidential candidates and many Democratic members of the House and Senate.
Republicans simply cannot afford to push back on Trump, allow Democrats to completely take over during the fallout from that, and watch the country's policies turn hard left.
Many of today's ideas coming from the 2020 left would be seen as crazy or extreme by most Democrats 20 years ago. I can't support doing anything which would enable that.
The economy is much less of an issue with voters.
If the election comes down to character, then Trump is fucked.
Rofl If the election comes down to character lulllzzzz
What. A. Post.
That is funny.
Honestly we abandoned "character" 28 years ago when shady, dishonest, chronic philanderer Bill Clinton was elected.
"Forget his personal life, forget his character, it's how he governs that counts," said Democrats at the time.
Well, they got their wish. That set the stage for Trump.
Poor Nixon.That is funny.
Honestly we abandoned "character" 28 years ago when shady, dishonest, chronic philanderer Bill Clinton was elected.
"Forget his personal life, forget his character, it's how he governs that counts," said Democrats at the time.
Well, they got their wish. That set the stage for Trump.
He was just ahead of his time.
Did you mean Kennedy?Poor Nixon.
He was just ahead of his time.
Nixon wasn't regarded as all that shady until after he was elected. That's different.Poor Nixon.
He was just ahead of his time.
Clinton was the first modern winner of a modern Presidential where personal shortcomings were a serious concern, but ultimately didn't stop him.
Interestingly, very promising Democratic candidate Gary Hart was derailed just 6 years earlier for pretty much the same thing as Clinton was doing.
I mean, again, Kennedy.Nixon wasn't regarded as all that shady until after he was elected. That's different.
Clinton was the first modern winner of a modern Presidential where personal shortcomings were a serious concern, but ultimately didn't stop him.
Interestingly, very promising Democratic candidate Gary Hart was derailed just 6 years earlier for pretty much the same thing as Clinton was doing.
I mean, again, Kennedy.
Don't forget his replacement, Johnson.
trump's getting acquitted today. a little weird seeing the dems freaking out about this when they knew going in this was an absolute certainty
And the Republicans have set the stage — correction: already started the precedent — for a party in control of one of the houses of Congress ignoring the Constitution when the president they like shits all over it.That is funny.
Honestly we abandoned "character" 28 years ago when shady, dishonest, chronic philanderer Bill Clinton was elected.
"Forget his personal life, forget his character, it's how he governs that counts," said Democrats at the time.
Well, they got their wish. That set the stage for Trump.
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I look a few times a week at indeed or other job sites. For the last two years there was an increase in wages for manufacturing jobs and construction related jobs. People living paycheck to paycheck on the margins. This is almost the entirety of the Obama/Trump voting block in the rust belt. Things have fallen off significantly the last several months. It coincides with what I hear when I talk to people involved in small businesses. It’s been slow is what I keep hearing since the fall.The economy is much less of an issue with voters.
If the election comes down to character, then Trump is fucked.
I think Trump will pass the are you better off than 4 years ago test for enough people and consider him still a large favorite, but not an ideal trend still 10 months out from Election Day if it continues. This is more important than impeachment hearings or any other nonsense in the states that matter.
If the economy took a significant turn for the worse though, he’s susceptible here. Only to Bernie though. Biden couldn’t beat him here regardless of the situation. I’m not speaking to who might be the better candidate nationally. It’s possible Bernie drives moderate Republicans and right-leaning independents to the polls who would have sat it out in numbers that would overwhelm the disenchanted Trump voter. I’m unsure about that. I Just don’t know a soul whose voting record would be Obama/Trump/Biden here. Not one person I’ve talked to. Even those doing well and disenchanted with trumps antics. Biden has zero appeal to anyone I encounter.
Druff always conflates the hicks with the rust belt. Don Lemon is a compete ass who I hope dies of AIDS, but the guy who sounds like the guy he was mocking isn’t the Obama/Trump voter. I don’t know anyone that sounds like that who wasn’t already a republican. He’s insulting rural people. Rural people in these areas vote 80/20 red in any election and always have. So while he’s an elitist ass, he’s not really offending the Obama/Trump voter. If you’re part of the 20% in rural areas, you aren’t changing your mind over some anchor. You have your entire family already busting your balls constantly for not being on the train.
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