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    ATINE IS FKN PATHETIC

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    simmer down jethro, adults are talking.
    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Quote Originally Posted by devidee View Post
    The US has 55,000 troops in the Middle East. This includes 12 different countries with US military bases in 7.

    But Baghdad, you guys.

    Oh, and all of that is so we don’t have anything to do with Israel (our greatest ally).

    establishing the baghdad embassy as a locus of middle eastern intelligence gathering was the single biggest neocon selling point for deposing saddam, at least internally.

    to this day, no one has properly explained why obama thought we could ignore a populist mandate in their first democratic election while somehow keeping our toys but here we are. the cia's voice at the table for that decision said his advice was not taken but who knows what happened behind the scenes.

    one could argue that everything from isis to the current iranian subjugation of iraqi rule stem from obama's fumble.

     
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    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Quote Originally Posted by devidee View Post
    What we really need in Iraq is a strong man who can control the population and hates Iran.

    This can never be said enough. The idiocy and arrogance of thinking we were going to spread democracy and nation build in some chopped up country with a hundred different agendas was the height of neo-con stupidity. Like if a bunch of actually smart people sat down at the moment and input data into a super computer trying to formulate what’s the best case scenario for someone to emerge in Iraq, it would pump out a picture of Saddam Hussein. I remember arguing that shit 15 years ago. We had a fucking sword-rattling egotist who wasn’t a true believer keeping millions of nutjobs at bay within his own borders while also forcing Iran to have to waste resources worried about him. We spent billions propping him up for decades only to spend a trillion taking out the non-believer mob boss who kept those savages in their place and now have continued chaos.

    Fuck 9/11. That Cheney/Wolfowitz/Bush trifecta scapegoating Iraq after 9/11 was Bin Ladens greatest unintentional achievement.

     
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      MumblesBadly: Solid. And tragic. RIP, American service members who gave the ultimate sacrifice for this hubris-fueled project.
      
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    we are literally spending $1.50 to purchase $1 worth of GDP.

     
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      devidee: What happened in 2008?
    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    simmer down jethro, adults are talking.


    I'm literally the only person ITT worth a shit and it's only because I'm degen trash, nobody else would even bother

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post


    we are literally spending $1.50 to purchase $1 worth of GDP.
    This is akin to Davidee’s use of roids?

    Somebody has to find one of Druff’s defenses of Cheney’s invasion. He’s gone off on radio and print. He will prolly gladly reprise the nonsense too if you ask nicely.

    You don’t get to walk that back. Withdraw troops. Say your sorry. Some mistakes (crimes) are irreversible.

    I believe the cost so far is $6k per man woman and child in the US. You pretty much get whatever social program you want for that number.

    ‘Merica

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    Quote Originally Posted by devidee View Post
    What we really need in Iraq is a strong man who can control the population and hates Iran.
    You can say the same thing about Iran

    The CIA’s Shah.

    You know what keeps young men from suicide bombing your suburbs? Jobs. There was literally an economic boom

    They got it right for a little while. Woulda been better off staying the fuck out in the end though.

     
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    You guys remember when Obama sent 1.7 billion in cash to Iran and John Kerry said some of that money would be used to directly fund terrorism.

    I member.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by devidee View Post
    What we really need in Iraq is a strong man who can control the population and hates Iran.

    This can never be said enough. The idiocy and arrogance of thinking we were going to spread democracy and nation build in some chopped up country with a hundred different agendas was the height of neo-con stupidity. Like if a bunch of actually smart people sat down at the moment and input data into a super computer trying to formulate what’s the best case scenario for someone to emerge in Iraq, it would pump out a picture of Saddam Hussein. I remember arguing that shit 15 years ago. We had a fucking sword-rattling egotist who wasn’t a true believer keeping millions of nutjobs at bay within his own borders while also forcing Iran to have to waste resources worried about him. We spent billions propping him up for decades only to spend a trillion taking out the non-believer mob boss who kept those savages in their place and now have continued chaos.

    Fuck 9/11. That Cheney/Wolfowitz/Bush trifecta scapegoating Iraq after 9/11 was Bin Ladens greatest unintentional achievement.
    Wasn't part of the problem was that Saddam was too erratic and uncontrollable? I mean, if we were comfortable we could keep him contained and he wouldn't randomly attack Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and threaten the world oil supply, maybe we would have been a lot more ok with keeping him around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by devidee View Post
    What we really need in Iraq is a strong man who can control the population and hates Iran.
    You can say the same thing about Iran

    The CIA’s Shah.

    You know what keeps young men from suicide bombing your suburbs? Jobs. There was literally an economic boom

    They got it right for a little while. Woulda been better off staying the fuck out in the end though.

    This has been every college professor's argument forever but as we've seen, throwing money at something doesn't always work(except when it comes to my fundraising threads)

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    Quote Originally Posted by OSA View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post

    You can say the same thing about Iran

    The CIA’s Shah.

    You know what keeps young men from suicide bombing your suburbs? Jobs. There was literally an economic boom

    They got it right for a little while. Woulda been better off staying the fuck out in the end though.

    This has been every college professor's argument forever but as we've seen, throwing money at something doesn't always work(except when it comes to my fundraising threads)
    Has nothing to do with jobs.

    As long as an illegitimate, jewish ethno-State exists in the Middle East there will be terrorism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by devidee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by OSA View Post


    This has been every college professor's argument forever but as we've seen, throwing money at something doesn't always work(except when it comes to my fundraising threads)
    Has nothing to do with jobs.

    As long as an illegitimate, jewish ethno-State exists in the Middle East there will be terrorism.
    i suspect there are very few well-off suicide bombers

    there's also a direct correlation between fundamentalist religious views and poverty

     
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    Yeah, we just need a minimum wage in the ME. Nothing to do with Israel. My bad.
    Carpet bombing them back into the Middle Ages.

    Clever though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Yeah, we just need a minimum wage in the ME. Nothing to do with Israel. My bad.
    Carpet bombing them back into the Middle Ages.

    Clever though.
    I’m not advocating carpet bombing them. Israel and their bought neocons sure are though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devidee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post

    Carpet bombing them back into the Middle Ages.

    Clever though.
    I’m not advocating carpet bombing them. Israel and their bought neocons sure are though.
    The US has already leveled the countryside.

    I suspect we are talking about two different things now.

    The thread is all yours. Sorry

     
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    devidee: Yeah, we just need a minimum wage in the ME. Nothing to do with Israel. My bad.

    the point is that poor people make up 99% of religious extremists. poor people probably make up 99% of religious people in general for that matter.

    if they weren't poor, they wouldn't care about israel cause they'd be enjoying their lives. when people's lives suck, it's very easy to manipulate them. have you seen a trump rally? surely what i'm saying directly applies to you

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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
    devidee: Yeah, we just need a minimum wage in the ME. Nothing to do with Israel. My bad.

    the point is that poor people make up 99% of religious extremists. poor people probably make up 99% of religious people in general for that matter.

    if they weren't poor, they wouldn't care about israel cause they'd be enjoying their lives. when people's lives suck, it's very easy to manipulate them. have you seen a trump rally? surely what i'm saying directly applies to you
    Yeah, prolly why Israel does everything in its power to better the economic lives of average Palestinians.

    LULZ

    Don’t look at Israel, goy! It’s the poverty!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by devidee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
    devidee: Yeah, we just need a minimum wage in the ME. Nothing to do with Israel. My bad.

    the point is that poor people make up 99% of religious extremists. poor people probably make up 99% of religious people in general for that matter.

    if they weren't poor, they wouldn't care about israel cause they'd be enjoying their lives. when people's lives suck, it's very easy to manipulate them. have you seen a trump rally? surely what i'm saying directly applies to you
    Yeah, prolly why Israel does everything in its power to better the economic lives of average Palestinians.

    LULZ

    Don’t look at Israel, goy! It’s the poverty!!
    how did you turn out this way? you're pretty much a less insightful fps_russia

    i mean, regardless of the subject, every single post of yours ends with goy, jooincedence or israel, in a horrifically unfunny sort of way.

    since successful people don't think like this, have you considered going back to school? you have to take at least some accountability for your situation. it can't be all the jews' fault

     
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