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    whistleblower's complaint wasnt just about the call, apparently s/he has a laundry list of 'serious instances'.
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    the hypocrisy is just kinda nuts. for the longest time we heard from the hannity crowd that obama used an investigation to take down a political rival and influence an election, and here we have trump admit: 1) he urged ukraine to investigate biden; and 2) he stopped money for military aid from going there.

    frankly, even without the "quid pro quo", urging ukraine to investigate your chief rival for obvious political reasons should be impeachable.

    i don't get how anyone can rationalize this as normal.

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    -185 the whistleblower is a right wing plant, and all this was to goad the democrats into mobilizing trump's base for 2020.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by thesidedish View Post


    didn't the Ukraine guy already say there wasn't any quid pro quo. it's just trump talking out of his ass like usual saying "what was up with this scam with biden?"
    i'm not saying he did it, though he obv did cause he doesn't think before speaking. i'm just asking would you have a problem with it, even if he did.


    the transcript is coming out tmrw why would I speculate on possibilities if i'll have way more answers in short time, i'm a mans man not some gasbag gossiping fag. that's some atine shit, look at the guy throwing out predictions all over the place LMAO

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    Quote Originally Posted by thesidedish View Post
    i'm a mans man


    i hope he treats you right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesidedish View Post
    the transcript is coming out tmrw

    Just remember:

    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    whistleblower's complaint wasnt just about the call, apparently s/he has a laundry list of 'serious instances'.

    Wait to see what the whistleblower actually claims, and then decide how relevant the transcript is.

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    the dems may look dumber than Smollett tmrw ya lets see this thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by thesidedish View Post
    the dems may look dumber than Smollett tmrw ya lets see this thing
    Just remember:

    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    whistleblower's complaint wasnt just about the call, apparently s/he has a laundry list of 'serious instances'.

    Wait to see what the whistleblower actually claims, and then decide how relevant the transcript is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duped_samaritan View Post
    Just remember:

    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    whistleblower's complaint wasnt just about the call, apparently s/he has a laundry list of 'serious instances'.

    Wait to see what the whistleblower actually claims, and then decide how relevant the transcript is.

    what moron? why does some guys opinion matter more than seeing with ur own eyes what actually happened

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    trump is even meeting with Ukraine tmrw, this is set up nicely for the dems to look like MUH UKRAINE BAFOONS

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    i can't even get dish to say that the theoretical concept of trump pressuring ukraine over biden would be a bad thing.

    lol this country

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    note that this administration has an established history of releasing doctored transcripts, btw.

    https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-dr...r-second-time/

    https://www.theatlantic.com/internat...script/565385/

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/white...b0d1ebe0e41d3b


    whats going to be meaningful is if the whistleblower can confirm or deny that the transcripts are undoctored.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
    i can't even get dish to say that the theoretical concept of trump pressuring ukraine over biden would be a bad thing.

    lol this country

    moron the transcript is out tmrw what are u talking about. ya I want to set myself up to look like a moron being completely wrong when I have new information literally tmrw are u nuts. THATS FOR ATINE MORON. we are talking about a whistleblower saying he heard corruption happened, seriously this guy wasn't even in the room. the dems will look like stooges tmrw, there has to be a way to make money on this predictit.org

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    note that this administration has an established history of releasing doctored transcripts, btw.

    https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-dr...r-second-time/

    https://www.theatlantic.com/internat...script/565385/

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/white...b0d1ebe0e41d3b


    whats going to be meaningful is if the whistleblower can confirm or deny that the transcripts are undoctored.
    i think the NYTimes or the washington post said he did this like 8 separate times

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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
    i can't even get dish to say that the theoretical concept of trump pressuring ukraine over biden would be a bad thing.

    lol this country
    Why don’t you try with Druff. That would be a better barometer of whether any meaningful number of Republicans in Congress will agree with the Dems that Trump should be impeached if objective information confirms the allegation.
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    I actually hope this [second impeachment] succeeds, because I want Trump put down politically like a sick, 14-year-old dog. ... I don't want him complicating the 2024 primary season. I just want him done.
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    Were Republicans cowardly or unethical not to go along with [convicting Trump in the second impeachment Senate trial]? No. The smart move was to reject it.

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    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Quote Originally Posted by thesidedish View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
    i can't even get dish to say that the theoretical concept of trump pressuring ukraine over biden would be a bad thing.

    lol this country

    moron the transcript is out tmrw what are u talking about. ya I want to set myself up to look like a moron being completely wrong when I have new information literally tmrw are u nuts. THATS FOR ATINE MORON. we are talking about a whistleblower saying he heard corruption happened, seriously this guy wasn't even in the room. the dems will look like stooges tmrw, there has to be a way to make money on this predictit.org
    yeah ok, as a clarification, i'm well aware that no matter what you see tomorrow, you'll say "see, no big deal." none of us are in suspense waiting for that.

     
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    in dish's defense, he did admit trump was the antichrist and even apologized after trump ordained himself as chosen by god.
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    also quick reminder the republicans stood behind nixon 100% until they totally, utterly didnt like over the course of about 12 hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe View Post
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    You're supposed to listen to the scientists, but that doesn't seem to be working either.

    LOL @ the right these days.
    When you can't refute anything she says, attack her Asperger's or her age.

    The right is completely devoid of basic decency at this point.
    Notice I didn't attack her personally (even though she'll never read any of this, nor will anyone who knows her personally).

    Attacking her age is completely fair because she is incredibly young, lacks life experience, lacks education, and basically is not an expert on anything. Having an interest in climate change and learning about it from adults doesn't make you an expert on it.

    Furthermore, there are many complex economic issues related to the climate change argument, as well as many scientific concepts I doubt she understands.

    How young is too young to speak? What if a 10-year-old spoke? Would that be deserving of respect?

    What about a 6-year-old? What about a 3-year-old?

    There's obviously some point where everyone agrees that it's absurd for a child to be up there speaking to the UN. So, yes, it is fine to criticize her age, and 16 is far too young to be lecturing anyone, especially about a complex issue like this.

    While I believe that climate change is a legitimate passion for this girl, it was adults who decided to allow her to come speak at the UN, and those adults allowed this for manipulative purposes.

    I've heard the defense, "Well, it's her generation who will have to live with this", but why not have a 26-year-old speak -- preferably one who has extensively studied these issues as part of doctoral research? The 10 year age difference there would be mostly negligible regarding what they'll have to "live with" in their later years on this earth. So why parade a kid up there? It's because a kid speaking is more dramatic and attention-grabbing, which was the entire point of this. An innocent-looking 16-year-old chiding adults, "You stole my childhood" is a much better sound byte than a 26-year-old droning on about their climate change research.

    The left needs to quit using children as frontmen for their causes-du-jour, and the whole "We're the younger generation and are going to be the agents of change" nonsense doesn't really hold up if you really think about it.

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