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    And yet there u were being a hof muh russia shill

    The difference between spying and subverting our election process is considerable.




    FACTS:

    julian Assange has never been caught telling a lie

    the us intelligence agencies have

    Russians are not funny in the least, so absolutely awful trolls



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Not actually paying them $15b. It's a $15b credit line backed by Iranian oil.

    However, Obama was also no picnic when it came to Iran. He paid them a $400 million ransom in order to get hostages released
    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    the myth that obama's payment wasnt demanded by law is up there with clinton/uranium conspiracy theories at this point.

    if i were trump, at this point, id just publicly apologize to iran and be like 'lol yall play too much' and just hope everything is cool. he really has no other moves to make.
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    No Todd.

    It was Irans money to begin that had been frozen decades earlier.

    But you already knew that.
    The payment was ignored for 37 years, and there was no urgency to pay it. It could have been ignored for another 37 years without any consequence.

    I'm not even bothered that it was eventually paid. I was bothered by the fact that Obama was so naive that he tied the release of the hostages to it, so as to give the obvious optics of being a pay-for-release-of-hostages situation.

    Iran even predictably postured about it right afterwards, telling their people that they stood strong against the US, took hostages, and got paid a ransom equivalent to what has been owed since 1979. It looked like a huge victory to the Iranian people, and a win for terrorism.

    Obama wasn't even aware enough to have the hostage release occur BEFORE the $400m payment, or at least get the Iranian leaders to announce beforehand that this isn't a ransom, and that they are releasing the American hostages in good faith as appreciation for Obama paying that 37-year-old debt.

    Instead that chump just handed them $400m, got the hostages back the same day, and Iran's leaders clowned Obama hard in their state run media.

    Obama is a smart guy, but he was really a naive buffoon sometimes when it came to foreign policy. This was a great example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    the myth that obama's payment wasnt demanded by law is up there with clinton/uranium conspiracy theories at this point.

    if i were trump, at this point, id just publicly apologize to iran and be like 'lol yall play too much' and just hope everything is cool. he really has no other moves to make.
    Quote Originally Posted by duped_samaritan View Post
    No Todd.

    It was Irans money to begin that had been frozen decades earlier.

    But you already knew that.
    The payment was ignored for 37 years, and there was no urgency to pay it. It could have been ignored for another 37 years without any consequence.
    Do you think the tribunal that was about to rule on it was just bullshit? They were either going to work out a deal directly with Iran or they would be bound by whatever ruling the Tribunal was about to make, and the $400m was just the principle balance, it was the interest they were negotiating over while simultaneously negotiating the nuclear deal and the prisoner release.

    I agree the optics were bad, but "Obama paid Iran $400m!!!!" is completely misleading so you should stop saying it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duped_samaritan View Post
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    No Todd.

    It was Irans money to begin that had been frozen decades earlier.

    But you already knew that.
    The payment was ignored for 37 years, and there was no urgency to pay it. It could have been ignored for another 37 years without any consequence.
    Do you think the tribunal that was about to rule on it was just bullshit? They were either going to work out a deal directly with Iran or they would be bound by whatever ruling the Tribunal was about to make, and the $400m was just the principle balance, it was the interest they were negotiating over while simultaneously negotiating the nuclear deal and the prisoner release.

    I agree the optics were bad, but "Obama paid Iran $400m!!!!" is completely misleading.

    this has been explained to him for at least 3 years. he's just not interested in letting go of his rush limbaugh flavored fantasy because it props up his world view that somehow obama was 'weak on foreign policy'.
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    The payment was ignored for 37 years, and there was no urgency to pay it. It could have been ignored for another 37 years without any consequence.
    Do you think the tribunal that was about to rule on it was just bullshit? They were either going to work out a deal directly with Iran or they would be bound by whatever ruling the Tribunal was about to make, and the $400m was just the principle balance, it was the interest they were negotiating over while simultaneously negotiating the nuclear deal and the prisoner release.

    I agree the optics were bad, but "Obama paid Iran $400m!!!!" is completely misleading.

    this has been explained to him for at least 3 years. he's just not interested in letting go of his rush limbaugh flavored fantasy because it props up his world view that somehow obama was 'weak on foreign policy'.
    Obama killed more brown people than W.

    Hell, he even drone donk-downed a US citizen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    The payment was ignored for 37 years, and there was no urgency to pay it. It could have been ignored for another 37 years without any consequence.
    Do you think the tribunal that was about to rule on it was just bullshit? They were either going to work out a deal directly with Iran or they would be bound by whatever ruling the Tribunal was about to make, and the $400m was just the principle balance, it was the interest they were negotiating over while simultaneously negotiating the nuclear deal and the prisoner release.

    I agree the optics were bad, but "Obama paid Iran $400m!!!!" is completely misleading.

    this has been explained to him for at least 3 years. he's just not interested in letting go of his rush limbaugh flavored fantasy because it props up his world view that somehow obama was 'weak on foreign policy'.
    I think you mean “Breitbart News flavored fantasy”, because I don’t think Druff listens to any other radio show than his own, but regularly consumes (and adopts as gospel) the rightwing bullshit posted on that site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by devidee View Post
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    Do you think the tribunal that was about to rule on it was just bullshit? They were either going to work out a deal directly with Iran or they would be bound by whatever ruling the Tribunal was about to make, and the $400m was just the principle balance, it was the interest they were negotiating over while simultaneously negotiating the nuclear deal and the prisoner release.

    I agree the optics were bad, but "Obama paid Iran $400m!!!!" is completely misleading.

    this has been explained to him for at least 3 years. he's just not interested in letting go of his rush limbaugh flavored fantasy because it props up his world view that somehow obama was 'weak on foreign policy'.
    Obama killed more brown people than W.

    Hell, he even drone donk-downed a US citizen.
    how long until we are at war with Iran?

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    this has been explained to him for at least 3 years. he's just not interested in letting go of his rush limbaugh flavored fantasy because it props up his world view that somehow obama was 'weak on foreign policy'.
    Obama killed more brown people than W.

    Hell, he even drone donk-downed a US citizen.
    how long until we are at war with Iran?

    well we're probably trying to finish this one before we start another.

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    This is where our political tribal mindset betrays us. The right leaning folks here have plenty of other shit to hammer Obama on. He’s the last guy to be calling weak on foreign policy. That guy dropped more bombs per day than any other president in history times a factor of 5. Clinton wasn’t bad either. Nobody would
    Confuse either one with the Bush family but all and all it hasn’t been so bad. Carter on the other hand is a complete fucking disgrace to the office. Drives me crazy that they end the movie Argo (which was a good movie/story) on January 20th 1980 like nothing else happened that day to end the hostage crisis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post
    This is where our political tribal mindset betrays us. The right leaning folks here have plenty of other shit to hammer Obama on. He’s the last guy to be calling weak on foreign policy. That guy dropped more bombs per day than any other president in history times a factor of 5. Clinton wasn’t bad either. Nobody would
    Confuse either one with the Bush family but all and all it hasn’t been so bad. Carter on the other hand is a complete fucking disgrace to the office. Drives me crazy that they end the movie Argo (which was a good movie/story) on January 20th 1980 like nothing else happened that day to end the hostage crisis.
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    Is there a point to that paragraph? ....Just say it man.....that is babble

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    Who's the father?

    It's not Donald Trump.





     
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    Uh ohz trump says we are locked and loaded after assault on Saudi Oil

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    wth why are the libtards on some Kavanaugh shit again



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    Quote Originally Posted by FRANKRIZZO View Post
    Uh ohz trump says we are locked and loaded after assault on Saudi Oil
    the U.S is just itching to get into a war with Iran.

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    LOL @ LIBTARDS NOT BEING ABLE TO SPOT A CRAZY PERSON and even shilling for one. if Christine blasey ford's dad supported Kavanaugh's nomination that's a lock of the century "ya my daughter is a fkn trainwreck" and what other discussion needs to be had

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    LOL @ LIBTARDS NOT BEING ABLE TO SPOT A CRAZY PERSON and even shilling for one. if Christine blasey ford's dad supported Kavanaugh's nomination that's a lock of the century "ya my daughter is a fkn trainwreck" and what other discussion needs to be had
    We’ve heard more about Kavanaugh’s alleged sex life than Jeffrey Esptein’s.

    (((prolly just a jooincidence)))

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    I didn’t check the first two, but that last one is disingenuous. It felt too far out there for even Trump. It’s designed to look like he claimed that himself, rather than quoting noted nutjob Wayne Allyn Root.

     
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