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    So regarding the economy are you guys saying the president doesn’t really matter? Also, for everyone thinking the USA is out of control, does someone have a graph like this that represents violent crime rates?
    Considering this president is a moron and a shoe box would do as well, he doesn't matter. Considering this president is willing to continue the Repubican model of de-regulation and providing tax cuts for the wealthy then yes he matters but for all the wrong reasons.

    Considering this president, is a known racist, sexist and compulsive liar, how do you morally
    consider re-elelcting him?
    I don’t consider re-electing him, I never voted for him in the first place. We’ve had several conversations and you still don’t get this? Try reading things I write instead of emotionally reading into things I write and making baseless assumptions. I’ve said several times that Trump is a train wreck.
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    So regarding the economy are you guys saying the president doesn’t really matter? Also, for everyone thinking the USA is out of control, does someone have a graph like this that represents violent crime rates?
    The president obviously matters, but I don't think anywhere near as much as most think. Obama should get much more credit for not fucking the economy than he should for turning things around in 09. I think Trump deserves basically no credit for the state of the economy right now though. We haven't really seen the actual results of his actions yet. The way he's playing hardball with China could work out very well, or very poorly. Also seems possible he spazzes out and starts a war with Iran.

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    These are the graphs I was thinking of. We’re in the days of 24 media coverage and cell phones everywhere which leads to a picture painted that things are worse than ever. Reality is the country is safer than its every been. This goes for racism as well, people just aren’t raised to be racist like before. Sure there are still bad areas but some places will take longer to heel than others. I know they keep saying hate crimes are on the rise but I don’t think it’s factored in that crimes probably weren’t tracked accurately in years past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightmarefish View Post
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    The president obviously matters, but I don't think anywhere near as much as most think. Obama should get much more credit for not fucking the economy than he should for turning things around in 09. I think Trump deserves basically no credit for the state of the economy right now though. We haven't really seen the actual results of his actions yet. The way he's playing hardball with China could work out very well, or very poorly. Also seems possible he spazzes out and starts a war with Iran.

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    These are the graphs I was thinking of. We’re in the days of 24 media coverage and cell phones everywhere which leads to a picture painted that things are worse than ever. Reality is the country is safer than its every been. This goes for racism as well, people just aren’t raised to be racist like before. Sure there are still bad areas but some places will take longer to heel than others. I know they keep saying hate crimes are on the rise but I don’t think it’s factored in that crimes probably weren’t tracked accurately in years past.
    What are you claiming about racism? "People aren't raised to be racist like before" is an unusual statement. How do you know this? And you don't believe what you hear about hate crimes? Probably this and probably that regarding statistics? These are ridiculous things say.

    I don't care who you say you voted for in particular. You have identified yourself as a Republican and there is Republican president in office. My question about re-electing Donald Trump goes out to any Republican.


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    Would someone explain this for me? Does an incumbent President run for re-election unapposed?

    Considering the incumbent I would think the Republicans might want to take their chances with
    a new face.

    Just curious.


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    Quote Originally Posted by limitles View Post
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    These are the graphs I was thinking of. We’re in the days of 24 media coverage and cell phones everywhere which leads to a picture painted that things are worse than ever. Reality is the country is safer than its every been. This goes for racism as well, people just aren’t raised to be racist like before. Sure there are still bad areas but some places will take longer to heel than others. I know they keep saying hate crimes are on the rise but I don’t think it’s factored in that crimes probably weren’t tracked accurately in years past.
    What are you claiming about racism? "People aren't raised to be racist like before" is an unusual statement. How do you know this? And you don't believe what you hear about hate crimes? Probably this and probably that regarding statistics? These are ridiculous things say.

    I don't care who you say you voted for in particular. You have identified yourself as a Republican and there is Republican president in office. My question about re-electing Donald Trump goes out to any Republican.
    You know people who raise their kids to be racist? I sure don’t. But go back 50 years and I promise you they aren’t hard to find. Most people my grandfather’s age, of all races, were happily openly racist to some extent. My grandfather was Sicilian which suprisingly to me lead to a lot of racism against him and he in turn was racist.

    Once agin, you failed to understand what I wrote. I would say that currently hate crime stats are accurate but the numbers 50 years ago probably aren’t as accurate because they weren’t tracked as closely. Thus it could appear that hate crimes are rising when in fact they are not. I mean, you honestly think there are more hate crimes now than in the 60s???

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    Quote Originally Posted by limitles View Post
    Would someone explain this for me? Does an incumbent President run for re-election unapposed?

    Considering the incumbent I would think the Republicans might want to take their chances with
    a new face.

    Just curious.
    There is a guy thinking of running against Trump, I can’t remember his name. I believe Anthony Scaramucci is trying to back him. He has very little chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by limitles View Post
    Would someone explain this for me? Does an incumbent President run for re-election unapposed?

    Considering the incumbent I would think the Republicans might want to take their chances with
    a new face.

    Just curious.

    It's possible to be primaried as the sitting president but it's pretty risky for the party as the current president usually has more money and support and is therefore more likely to win in the general. I don't think it's ever happened, at least not in the last 80 years. Jimmy Carter came close I believe (and then went on to get absolutely slaughtered by Reagan - I think Carter won like 4 states).

    Nobody is going to primary Trump.

    If he drops dead or stabs Melania or something though there will be one hell of a Republican primary.

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    Speaking of free education, this 10 year old plus stand-up from Carlin is cut throat.

    He explains why anything related to education will likely never change.
    It starts at the 1:25 mark but the whole thing is incredible if not a bit sad.



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    Quote Originally Posted by duped_samaritan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by limitles View Post
    Would someone explain this for me? Does an incumbent President run for re-election unapposed?

    Considering the incumbent I would think the Republicans might want to take their chances with
    a new face.

    Just curious.

    It's possible to be primaried as the sitting president but it's pretty risky for the party as the current president usually has more money and support and is therefore more likely to win in the general. I don't think it's ever happened, at least not in the last 80 years. Jimmy Carter came close I believe (and then went on to get absolutely slaughtered by Reagan - I think Carter won like 4 states).

    Nobody is going to primary Trump.

    If he drops dead or stabs Melania or something though there will be one hell of a Republican primary.
    LBJ quit running for re-election in 1968 shortly after the New Hampshire primary, in which the leading anti-Vietnam War candidate, Eugene McCarthy, came within about 8 points of beating him, 42% to 50%.

    And Humphrey probably would have won if LBJ had informed the public before the election that he had proof that Richard Nixon had committed treason by illegally backchannel colluding with the South Vietnamese president to scuttle the pending peace deal with North Vietnam that LBJ’s team had negotiated and which North Vietnam had agreed to.
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    Trump just runs so well, it's amazing. Take the Democratic candidates from 1976 through 2012: Carter, Mondale, Dukakis, Clinton, Gore, Kerry, Obama... any of them would beat Trump, provided they were "modernized" for 2016/2020.

    First Trump starts his 2016 candidacy somewhat as a joke and attention ploy, and accidentally stumbles into enthusiasm for his Presidency. Then he starts taking it seriously, and notices that the supposed "strong" candidates in the field -- Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, and Ted Cruz -- are all actually weak, and easy to take down. He jumps to a huge lead and never relinquishes it. He doesn't even need to spend much money, as the left-biased media gives him a ton of free coverage, assuming that he will be the easiest for Hillary to beat.

    So then he faces Hillary, a crappy candidate whose campaign made mind bogglingly stupid mistakes. He pulls off a surprising victory which, when you really go back and think about it, wasn't all that surprising.

    Now, after a predictably tumultuous three years in office (though not nearly as scandalous or troubled as many predicted), his likely opponent will be one of the following:

    Biden: Ancient, apparently senile, prone to gaffes, and increasingly bad at thinking on his feet.

    Bernie: Ancient, and seems even older than he is. Comes off as an unhinged, crazy old man bent upon socialism rather than someone the general public can take seriously as President.

    Warren: No charisma, comes off as the stern librarian who used to scold you for talking too loud. Extremely awkward when she attempts to relate to the common man (who remembers the "have a beer with me" disaster?) Bogged down by the whole Native American/DNA test BS, which will resurface big time if she wins the primary.


    Honestly, he couldn't have picked a better possible three opponents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Trump just runs so well, it's amazing. Take the Democratic candidates from 1976 through 2012: Carter, Mondale, Dukakis, Clinton, Gore, Kerry, Obama... any of them would beat Trump, provided they were "modernized" for 2016/2020.

    First Trump starts his 2016 candidacy somewhat as a joke and attention ploy, and accidentally stumbles into enthusiasm for his Presidency. Then he starts taking it seriously, and notices that the supposed "strong" candidates in the field -- Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, and Ted Cruz -- are all actually weak, and easy to take down. He jumps to a huge lead and never relinquishes it. He doesn't even need to spend much money, as the left-biased media gives him a ton of free coverage, assuming that he will be the easiest for Hillary to beat.

    So then he faces Hillary, a crappy candidate whose campaign made mind bogglingly stupid mistakes. He pulls off a surprising victory which, when you really go back and think about it, wasn't all that surprising.

    Now, after a predictably tumultuous three years in office (though not nearly as scandalous or troubled as many predicted), his likely opponent will be one of the following:

    Biden: Ancient, apparently senile, prone to gaffes, and increasingly bad at thinking on his feet.

    Bernie: Ancient, and seems even older than he is. Comes off as an unhinged, crazy old man bent upon socialism rather than someone the general public can take seriously as President.

    Warren: No charisma, comes off as the stern librarian who used to scold you for talking too loud. Extremely awkward when she attempts to relate to the common man (who remembers the "have a beer with me" disaster?) Bogged down by the whole Native American/DNA test BS, which will resurface big time if she wins the primary.


    Honestly, he couldn't have picked a better possible three opponents.
    I actually thought John Delaney and Tulsi Gabbard seemed ok and may have gotten some moderate Republicans to vote for them but they couldn’t gain traction in their own party.

     
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    Aside from Druff’s mammoth omission of the Trump team’s (Parscale) masterful use of Facebook it’s a Druff but fair retelling of the facts

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    Friendly reminder on your thoughts of the Republican primary in Fall 2015:

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    Trump is the only possibility you have. Winning elections is about getting non-voters to vote. When the leftist candidate doesn't get anyone's dick hard then the old crusty GOP turns out and wins with their 18% majority of the total populace. With Trump you can actually turn the tables for once and be the party to capture a piece of that silent mass.

    Granted there will be a lot of people showing up just to vote against Trump but at least he raises the variance which is how upsets happen.
    The polls say otherwise.

    And as much as you can claim that Trump will get usual non-voters out to vote for him, I believe the flip side will occur even more (as you even acknowledged).

    Republicans don't need variance here because beating Hillary won't be an upset.

    Hillary is the favorite to win next year. I'll admit that. I'll even go as far to say that she's a favorite over the entire Republican field.

    However, she is not a huge favorite.

    Obama versus McCain was a huge favorite.

    That's why I supported Palin as the VP choice, because at that point he had nothing to lose. Either Palin was going to energize people to vote for him, or she was going to be an embarrassment and a net negative. Turned out it was the latter, but had he gone with a "safe" VP choice, it would have been a guaranteed loss.

    But Republicans do not need to throw the Hail Mary pass this time around.

    Hillary is very flawed and may very well beat herself. This is why Republicans should actually go with "safe" this time, and go with the candidate with the fewest gotchas, and then hope Hillary implodes. That's the best strategy at this point, because Hillary has enough holes to where Republicans may beat her simply because Hillary is Hillary.

    What Republicans DON'T want is to make people vote for Hillary because they see her as the lesser of two evils. That will happen if Trump is the nominee.

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    I understand the liberals of this forum disliking Rubio.

    But the conservatives should be supporting him, because I believe he's the only viable general election candidate the Republicans have.

    Even if you like Trump (which I don't), he will lose to Hillary in a general election. The polls are repeatedly showing that. Basically a lot of Americans are very fearful of a Trump Presidency.

    Carson is a whack job and will get creamed in a general election.

    Cruz is a smart guy and can debate well, but will ultimately be seen as too conservative, and will have a hard time pulling down independent votes.

    So if you are a Republican, you have to ask yourself: "Would you rather see Hillary or Rubio be President?"

    Because if any other Republican wins the primary, our next President is going to be Hillary. That's the reality.

    It's actually pretty interesting to go back and read the archives during big political events over past couple years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duped_samaritan View Post
    Friendly reminder on your thoughts of the Republican primary in Fall 2015:

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    The polls say otherwise.

    And as much as you can claim that Trump will get usual non-voters out to vote for him, I believe the flip side will occur even more (as you even acknowledged).

    Republicans don't need variance here because beating Hillary won't be an upset.

    Hillary is the favorite to win next year. I'll admit that. I'll even go as far to say that she's a favorite over the entire Republican field.

    However, she is not a huge favorite.

    Obama versus McCain was a huge favorite.

    That's why I supported Palin as the VP choice, because at that point he had nothing to lose. Either Palin was going to energize people to vote for him, or she was going to be an embarrassment and a net negative. Turned out it was the latter, but had he gone with a "safe" VP choice, it would have been a guaranteed loss.

    But Republicans do not need to throw the Hail Mary pass this time around.

    Hillary is very flawed and may very well beat herself. This is why Republicans should actually go with "safe" this time, and go with the candidate with the fewest gotchas, and then hope Hillary implodes. That's the best strategy at this point, because Hillary has enough holes to where Republicans may beat her simply because Hillary is Hillary.

    What Republicans DON'T want is to make people vote for Hillary because they see her as the lesser of two evils. That will happen if Trump is the nominee.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    I understand the liberals of this forum disliking Rubio.

    But the conservatives should be supporting him, because I believe he's the only viable general election candidate the Republicans have.

    Even if you like Trump (which I don't), he will lose to Hillary in a general election. The polls are repeatedly showing that. Basically a lot of Americans are very fearful of a Trump Presidency.

    Carson is a whack job and will get creamed in a general election.

    Cruz is a smart guy and can debate well, but will ultimately be seen as too conservative, and will have a hard time pulling down independent votes.

    So if you are a Republican, you have to ask yourself: "Would you rather see Hillary or Rubio be President?"

    Because if any other Republican wins the primary, our next President is going to be Hillary. That's the reality.
    It's actually pretty interesting to go back and read the archives during big political events over past couple years.
    Druff is now applying his considerable political analysis skills to summarily dismiss the recently published opinions of some top GOP strategists that Trump’s “Pocahontas” labeling of Elizabeth Warren is no longer an effective means to politically attack her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Trump just runs so well, it's amazing. Take the Democratic candidates from 1976 through 2012: Carter, Mondale, Dukakis, Clinton, Gore, Kerry, Obama... any of them would beat Trump, provided they were "modernized" for 2016/2020.

    First Trump starts his 2016 candidacy somewhat as a joke and attention ploy, and accidentally stumbles into enthusiasm for his Presidency. Then he starts taking it seriously, and notices that the supposed "strong" candidates in the field -- Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, and Ted Cruz -- are all actually weak, and easy to take down. He jumps to a huge lead and never relinquishes it. He doesn't even need to spend much money, as the left-biased media gives him a ton of free coverage, assuming that he will be the easiest for Hillary to beat.

    So then he faces Hillary, a crappy candidate whose campaign made mind bogglingly stupid mistakes. He pulls off a surprising victory which, when you really go back and think about it, wasn't all that surprising.

    Now, after a predictably tumultuous three years in office (though not nearly as scandalous or troubled as many predicted), his likely opponent will be one of the following:

    Biden: Ancient, apparently senile, prone to gaffes, and increasingly bad at thinking on his feet.

    Bernie: Ancient, and seems even older than he is. Comes off as an unhinged, crazy old man bent upon socialism rather than someone the general public can take seriously as President.

    Warren: No charisma, comes off as the stern librarian who used to scold you for talking too loud. Extremely awkward when she attempts to relate to the common man (who remembers the "have a beer with me" disaster?) Bogged down by the whole Native American/DNA test BS, which will resurface big time if she wins the primary.


    Honestly, he couldn't have picked a better possible three opponents.
    Still waiting for you to put your money where your mouth is and accept my $100 Trump re-election bet offer.

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