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    Those cases involving underage kids who are in their teens, but not pre-pubescent kids, has to be a prosecutorial and law enforcement nightmare.

    I mean, if you’re 14 or 15 years old, and from a fucked up home and your life is going sideways, it exponentially increases your odds to even be in that situation to get molested/raped. Then such a large percentage of those kids will end up being fucked up because of their upbringing and the fact that they got singled out by predators like Epstein, which makes them easy to demonize 15 years later when they’re a mess or living in a trailer park somewhere.

    So many legal cases in general are well-served by taking the case on an individual basis and common sense rather than some ballpark sentencing guideline or vague statute, but none more than these cases. Trying to parse how old the perpetrator is, how much the victim played into their own victimization, etc, has to be incredibly difficult. A dude like Epstein lives in that grey area.

    In a world of common sense you just take him out behind the courtroom and put a bullet in his head. The guy is a straight predator who cultivates troubled teen age girls as playthings and has demonstrated a pattern of that shit for decades. Anything but a bullet is illogical.

    Trying to make laws that drop the hammer on these old powerful men while not swooping up some 23 year old incel who lives in his mothers basement and caves to the hotpants 15 year old next door is why sex crimes has to be the nut low to deal with if you’re in law enforcement.

    It’s one of those areas of the law where the system would be so much better served if you just empowered a dozen reasonable people to listen to cases and give the perpetrator anything from probation to the death penalty. You legit need that wide of latitude. Some panel of common sense individuals would almost always be better than some solo judge or prosecutor who can be corrupted or politically biased and influenced. Every time I read about these cases it tilts the fuck out of me and I think some dictatorships that can just arbitrarily make up laws as they go are actually preferable to our current system.

     
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  2. #35602
    Epstein is Mossad.

    It's all about videoing these people abusing children. Once that happens the Israelis own them.

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    Les Wexner is closely tied to Epstein as well.

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    Clinton Presidential Library is refusing to hand over information on Bill Clinton's ties to Jeffrey Epstein.

    LULZ

    But why?

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    This is a SDNY case.

    The previous SDNY AG Preet Bharara has a podcast.

    https://tunein.com/podcasts/News--Po...reet-p1018528/

    I don’t share the same political bent but I respect Preet’s integrity

    Astoundingly, the young Russian oligarch, Mr Tickle, is a religious listener. He’s an interesting cat, that MrTickle

    Preet offers an important take. Basically, he points out how filthy the original decision & punishment was. That fact is a no brainer but to hear Bharara say it is important

    Ahhh, speaking of oligarchary - welcome to politics & justice in ‘Mercia.

    I’m actually feeling less enthusiastic about a big take down. There is enormous money and power at play. Yuuge

    A person with information to sell has died in prison - at a young age of mysterious cause. Hillary strikes again. Bitch can’t be taken down.
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    lol barr has mysteriously decided not to recuse himself from the epstein case.
    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    ATTN ATINE



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    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    "some of our faves"
    At least one of “their” faves...

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    Have you ever listened to a history of the United States?
    The Dollop History Series Podcast
    with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds is meant to be funny as they explore
    the lives of U.S. Americans from day one. And it is hilarious.

    But it's not pretty.....Yeah they make it funny but it only goes so far

    Unless you are the whitestest of the white it's pretty ugly.

    And if you listen you will discover how flawed the free enterprise
    system is. Half of the show displays the absurdity of the open market system
    left unto itself. It's unbelievably corrupt and it goes on today like it always has

    Anyone who doesn't know the past....will feel it in the ass down the road

    That's history...

    Now step over to John Oliver.

    This guy brings history to the forefront. It's kind of depressing because the horrible infrastructure of
    the United States allows for incredible indiscretions. You can call if freedom but you can also name it
    insanity unfiltered.

    This awfulness is reported for good reason.....People in charge are fucking up and doing their best to cover up.. re: Jeffrey Epstein

    Going back to the Dollop, listen to the Riverside Hospital episode, early on their history.
    You won't even believe what people will do to protect their rotten souls.

    It's not just funny, it's just unbelievable.

    So no matter how good people can be the breakdown and corruption of anyone in power is
    almost a given . That is sick. And that is the problem of humanity...Doesn't matter if you're Republican, Democrat, Socialist, Communist, Rapist....it just doesn't matter. People are out for themselves and you had better watch out

    You watch who you vote for because there is likely a Jeffrey Epstein behind every vote.
    It's a sick society
    I wish it no well

    Honest to god the answer is having no one to represent you. There is no need for one individual to
    communicate your interests. It's a corrupt endeavour and it can be stopped in this electronic age
    by getting rid of these whores of justice. They are simply a focal point of corruption
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    Yo, Druff! Your new “I’m-okay-with-him-because-I-like-most-of-his-policies” president seems to have had an exclusive party with the Sex-with-underage-girls King that you have repeated linked to Bill Clinton with much moral outrage.

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'
    https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...o-women-2019-7

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    Should we expect you to express heaps of moral outrage over this matter?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MumblesBadly View Post
    Yo, Druff! Your new “I’m-okay-with-him-because-I-like-most-of-his-policies” president seems to have had an exclusive party with the Sex-with-underage-girls King that you have repeated linked to Bill Clinton with much moral outrage.

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'
    https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...o-women-2019-7

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    Should we expect you to express heaps of moral outrage over this matter?
    This topic deserves it's own thread.

    Clinton looks worse then Trump.





    I did not have sexual relations with those children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MumblesBadly View Post
    Yo, Druff! Your new “I’m-okay-with-him-because-I-like-most-of-his-policies” president seems to have had an exclusive party with the Sex-with-underage-girls King that you have repeated linked to Bill Clinton with much moral outrage.

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'
    https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...o-women-2019-7

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    Should we expect you to express heaps of moral outrage over this matter?
    How old were the girls at this supposed Epstein+Trump party?

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    Yo, Druff! Your new “I’m-okay-with-him-because-I-like-most-of-his-policies” president seems to have had an exclusive party with the Sex-with-underage-girls King that you have repeated linked to Bill Clinton with much moral outrage.

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'
    https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...o-women-2019-7

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    Should we expect you to express heaps of moral outrage over this matter?
    This topic deserves it's own thread.

    Clinton looks worse then Trump.


    I did not have sexual relations with those children.
    I have never tomatoed Mumbles or piled on. He is, I think, often trying to be intentionally droll. I think that’s the word.

    Ascribing politics to this story is just abject stupidity, Mumbles, and that triggers my outrage toward you.

    This is a story about the political oligarchy in America. Power, corruption and privilege. Clinton and Trump are two sides of the same coin fool.

    For a guy with Perot as an avatar I gotta wonder if you have any clue what Perot represented at the time.

    Yeah, this story doesn’t belong here.

     
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    Roger Stone is wearing a ball gag and Roy Cohn is unavailable for comment.

    Agreed, Salty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Salty_Aus View Post

    This topic deserves it's own thread.

    Clinton looks worse then Trump.


    I did not have sexual relations with those children.
    I have never tomatoed Mumbles or piled on. He is, I think, often trying to be intentionally droll. I think that’s the word.

    Ascribing politics to this story is just abject stupidity, Mumbles, and that triggers my outrage toward you.

    This is a story about the political oligarchy in America. Power, corruption and privilege. Clinton and Trump are two sides of the same coin fool.

    For a guy with Perot as an avatar I gotta wonder if you have any clue what Perot represented at the time.

    Yeah, this story doesn’t belong here.
    It definitely belongs here for the following reason: Abject partisans like Druff who try to hide behind morality and objectivity give Trump all of kinds of passes while crying foul over the apparent misdeeds of the political opposition, in which they automatically assume the worst level of guilt.

    For example, Druff has repeatedly railed against the morally and ethically bankrupt Clintons, which I have agreed with where the evidence is overwhelming, but he has continuously given the totally *amoral* and serially fraud-commiting pathologically-lying self-enriching Donald J. Trump mostly silent support, and even recently openly admitted he supports because of his policies. Which prompts this question: What will it take for people like Druff to stop supporting Donald Trump? Does he have to actually shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue, or will they make excuses for that, also?

    #WheresTheGenuineMoralOutrage
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    Somewhere in the ar-chive dumpster you will find a post in which Druff wrote a serious defense of the Bushes and argued the invasion of Iraq/WMD’s was legit. I sorta dismissed his first level approach to politics after that.

    Except for his admiration of Rubio. That caught my attention.

    I don’t disagree with many of his ideals but he conflates that with politics. It’s like a sport for him. He’s got his touts on the internet like Crowder. He thinks it’s real like the NBA or wrestling.

    Look, I thought you were making a general point. It didn’t occur to me you were actually tweaking earnest Druff. I mean I saw it was addressed to him, but ya know....

    The Epstein deal initially got me passionate and hopeful but that familiar world weary surrender is creeping back.

    Warren or Trump in 2020

    Great
    Last edited by Sanlmar; 07-10-2019 at 09:40 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Salty_Aus View Post

    This topic deserves it's own thread.

    Clinton looks worse then Trump.


    I did not have sexual relations with those children.
    I have never tomatoed Mumbles or piled on. He is, I think, often trying to be intentionally droll. I think that’s the word.

    Ascribing politics to this story is just abject stupidity, Mumbles, and that triggers my outrage toward you.

    This is a story about the political oligarchy in America. Power, corruption and privilege. Clinton and Trump are two sides of the same coin fool.

    For a guy with Perot as an avatar I gotta wonder if you have any clue what Perot represented at the time.

    Yeah, this story doesn’t belong here.
    the fact that a shitton of people don't fucking realize this fact is laughable...


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