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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
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    So you are saying Mueller has evidence of Donald Trump colluding with Russia?

    so are you answering a question with a question?

    why would stone lie about his conversations with wikileaks?

    Your question was one of legality. I have no clue. Just as I have no clue why a guy with a giant tattoo of Richard Nixon's face on his back would do something shady.

    I wanted to know if you believe Mueller has evidence of Trump colluding with Russia.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by devidee View Post
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    so are you answering a question with a question?

    why would stone lie about his conversations with wikileaks?

    Your question was one of legality. I have no clue. Just as I have no clue why a guy with a giant tattoo of Richard Nixon's face on his back would do something shady.

    I wanted to know if you believe Mueller has evidence of Trump colluding with Russia.

    they have the attempted collusion with don jr. in the trump tower meeting that bannon called "treasonous." no clue what actually came out of that, if anything.

    no clue if mueller has anything connecting trump with russia. he's probably wondering why everyone in the trump orbit lies about all things russia if there was nothing to hide. a reasonable question i would think

    mueller knows russia hacked the dnc and that trump and wikileaks were colluding. is it really that far a stretch to say that russia and trump were colluding under these circumstances?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
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    Your question was one of legality. I have no clue. Just as I have no clue why a guy with a giant tattoo of Richard Nixon's face on his back would do something shady.

    I wanted to know if you believe Mueller has evidence of Trump colluding with Russia.

    they have the attempted collusion with don jr. in the trump tower meeting that bannon called "treasonous." no clue what actually came out of that, if anything.

    no clue if mueller has anything connecting trump with russia. he's probably wondering why everyone in the trump orbit lies about all things russia if there was nothing to hide. a reasonable question i would think
    Not really. Trump and most of his inner circle appear to be white collar criminals, including committing white collar crime with various Russian entities, possibly going all the way up to Putin. It would not be surprising they would want to cover this up, even if there was no collusion with Russia during the election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by verminaard View Post
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    they have the attempted collusion with don jr. in the trump tower meeting that bannon called "treasonous." no clue what actually came out of that, if anything.

    no clue if mueller has anything connecting trump with russia. he's probably wondering why everyone in the trump orbit lies about all things russia if there was nothing to hide. a reasonable question i would think
    Not really. Trump and most of his inner circle appear to be white collar criminals, including committing white collar crime with various Russian entities, possibly going all the way up to Putin. It would not be surprising they would want to cover this up, even if there was no collusion with Russia during the election.
    But they lied about trump-russia campaign stuff specifically. just off the top of my head they lied about:

    1. The trump tower don jr. meeting
    2. That trump had nothing to do with crafting don jr's statement on it
    3. That trump had no business interests in russia
    4. That trump never signed any agreements re russia
    5. That the trump tower moscow project ended before the campaign started
    6. That no one from team trump communicated with russia or wikileaks. (Mueller says otherwise, see manafort and stone)

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    During a recess in the hearing, Chris Wallace said he believes Cohen’s testimony indicates that President Donald Trump may be facing “criminal exposure” in New York.

    “It may not get the most attention, but I thought the most explosive piece of information was the fact that there is an on going criminal investigation by the Southern District of New York — those are the local prosecutors in Manhattan, not the special counsel — about possible crimes involving President Trump,” Wallace said. “And that Michael Cohen is participating under that investigation, and in fact, has been told by prosecutors there are certain things he can’t discuss. So that raises the real possibility of criminal exposure — not to say that he’s been indicted or charged with anything — but the potential of criminal exposure for President Trump in the Southern District of New York.”

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    Anybody watching this spectacle of a hearing?.

    Is Michael Cohen doing a bad woody Allen impression, or is he just like that?.

    This is the epitome of a dog and pony show...

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
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    Not really. Trump and most of his inner circle appear to be white collar criminals, including committing white collar crime with various Russian entities, possibly going all the way up to Putin. It would not be surprising they would want to cover this up, even if there was no collusion with Russia during the election.
    But they lied about trump-russia campaign stuff specifically. just off the top of my head they lied about:

    1. The trump tower don jr. meeting
    2. That trump had nothing to do with crafting don jr's statement on it
    3. That trump had no business interests in russia
    4. That trump never signed any agreements re russia
    5. That the trump tower moscow project ended before the campaign started
    6. That no one from team trump communicated with russia or wikileaks. (Mueller says otherwise, see manafort and stone)
    Almost every word that comes out of Trump's mouth is a lie. Given that one would be surprised if he chose this moment to start being truthful. I am sure he has done enough shady, illegal stuff to put him in prison the rest of his life if it all could be proved, so it is not really in his interest to cooperate with bringing these things to light, even if there is no collusion smoking gun.

    Also, I must point out that given we know that Trump lies about pretty much everything all the time, even when there is no rationale reason why he would do so (e.g. lying about his inauguration crowd size), I don't find any statement beginning with the supposition, "Why else would he lie about xyz" to be very sincere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
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    Your question was one of legality. I have no clue. Just as I have no clue why a guy with a giant tattoo of Richard Nixon's face on his back would do something shady.

    I wanted to know if you believe Mueller has evidence of Trump colluding with Russia.

    they have the attempted collusion with don jr. in the trump tower meeting that bannon called "treasonous." no clue what actually came out of that, if anything.

    no clue if mueller has anything connecting trump with russia. he's probably wondering why everyone in the trump orbit lies about all things russia if there was nothing to hide. a reasonable question i would think

    mueller knows russia hacked the dnc and that trump and wikileaks were colluding. is it really that far a stretch to say that russia and trump were colluding under these circumstances?
    A simply 'no' would have sufficed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devidee View Post
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    they have the attempted collusion with don jr. in the trump tower meeting that bannon called "treasonous." no clue what actually came out of that, if anything.

    no clue if mueller has anything connecting trump with russia. he's probably wondering why everyone in the trump orbit lies about all things russia if there was nothing to hide. a reasonable question i would think

    mueller knows russia hacked the dnc and that trump and wikileaks were colluding. is it really that far a stretch to say that russia and trump were colluding under these circumstances?
    A simply 'no' would have sufficed.
    I said no clue, but If you're asking me to guess what mueller has, i would say yes

    And lol at again dodging why stone lied by saying it's a legal question. No trump supporter will answer it so this doesn't surprise me. let me know why you think stone lied after you've had a chance to confer with your counsel.

    Or maybe stay in your lane, post a pic and maybe close with (((jooincidence)))

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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
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    A simply 'no' would have sufficed.
    I said no clue, but If you're asking me to guess what mueller has, i would say yes

    And lol at again dodging why stone lied by saying it's a legal question. No trump supporter will answer it so this doesn't surprise me. let me know why you think stone lied after you've had a chance to confer with your counsel.

    Or maybe stay in your lane, post a pic and maybe close with (((jooincidence)))

    I didn't say Stone allegedly lying was a legal question. I said Stone is bat shit crazy (basically).

    Thanks for stating definitively that you believe Mueller has evidence that Trump colluded with Russia.

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    are we talking about a legal definition of collusion, the act of conspiring with a hostile foreign government to undermine the democratic process, or simply going with the flow because all hes thinking about is the trump tower moscow deal beavis is putting together?

    three different things obviously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    I always thought the Russia thing was so overblown.

    Pretty sure it went down something like this:

    Russia (to Trump's people during election): Hey, we hate that witch Hillary and prefer you win. So we phished the DNC and that idiot Podesta fell for it, and we got a bunch of dirt now regarding their shady deeds. That should help Trump.

    Trump's people: Cool, we agree this should help us, if it's what you say.

    Russia: Oh, it will help. Okay, we will drop it to the public fairly soon. We're going to start leaking rumors that it's coming.

    Trump's people (to Trump): Hey, the Russians hacked something and found that the DNC is doing all kinds of shady shit. They're going to release it soon.

    Trump: Great! This should really help me!

    -----------------

    Is this really a big deal?

    Looks like Russia was just handing this over because they wanted Trump to win, and not for any return favors or future allowances.

    And the stuff they released was evidence of Hilary and the DNC acting shady, which was good that the public got to see.

    I didn’t watch it from what I’m reading this is more or less the story told today, yea?

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    seems like trump has more immediate concerns than russia.

     
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    Wait until she finds out the McRib contains no ribs...

     
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    matthew calamari, that has to be a made up name

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
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    Your question was one of legality. I have no clue. Just as I have no clue why a guy with a giant tattoo of Richard Nixon's face on his back would do something shady.

    I wanted to know if you believe Mueller has evidence of Trump colluding with Russia.

    they have the attempted collusion with don jr. in the trump tower meeting that bannon called "treasonous." no clue what actually came out of that, if anything.

    no clue if mueller has anything connecting trump with russia. he's probably wondering why everyone in the trump orbit lies about all things russia if there was nothing to hide. a reasonable question i would think

    mueller knows russia hacked the dnc and that trump and wikileaks were colluding. is it really that far a stretch to say that russia and trump were colluding under these circumstances?

    Guy is acting on the Intel of a firm hired by the dnc


    Embarrassing propaganda repeating performance from u goin on last cpl pages. U should either kill urself or pay debt to snap out of it

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    Mueller is supposed to be getting to the bottom of who hacked the dnc emails

    Mueller doesnt ask Wikileaks anything

    Assange offers reward for info on death of seth rich



    Gee I wonder who it was

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    So Russian collusion donkeys, what are ur theories why Mueller doesnt actually talk to Wikileaks other than my theory that the answer they would provide has nothing to do with Russian collusion

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    STATEMENT on Michael Cohen testimony to Congress: WikiLeaks publisher Julian Assange has never had a telephone call with Roger Stone. WikiLeaks publicly teased its pending publications on Hillary Clinton and published > 30k of her emails on 16 March 2016. https://t.co/XcH75u3kbu

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    So who gives a shit about any of this other than never trumpers? No one.

    Fair play would be a special prosecutor going through hrc’s shannangins.

    Just bilateral, nasty politics making us all worse humans as we argue and fight over their scraps.

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