[QUOTE=thesidedish;820719][QUOTE=duped_samaritan;820714]Yeah the U.S. needs another invasion like you need another concussion.
Haven't you learned a lesson? The U.S. can't do jack shit by itself as far as military take-overs.
Move on. Focus on your obese run down population
Damn!!! I’ll be on the road at that time. Sure wish I could be there to take pics of it.
Protesters Raise Funds To Transport Trump Baby Blimp In Time For President’s El Paso Rally
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5...b0eec79b23685e
What is so outrageous about the blimp funding? What's outrageous is this fat fuck lies through his teeth to the American public
every time he's not eating.
"El Paso officials are furious that Trump falsely characterized their city as “one of the most dangerous in the nation” before a border barrier went up. In fact, contrary to Trump’s State of the Union slam, El Paso has been one of America’s safest cities for decades. The border barrier wasn’t constructed until 2008.
“It is sad to hear President Trump state falsehoods about El Paso in an attempt to justify the building of a 2,000-mile wall,” said Sheriff Richard Wiles.
Rep. Veronica Escobar (D-Texas) sent Trump a letter Thursday demanding an apology for his State of the Union statements. She attacked the president’s “outright lies” and “cheap attempts to use our community as a political prop.”
What are the actual crime statistics since 2008 in El Paso?
Has anyone posted those?
Even if El Paso was "safe" overall prior to that, if violent crime decreased there after the wall's construction; Trump might have had a point.
A quick google shows several news outlets reporting the same thing all based FBI crime stats. He can't "have a point" when
the premise is based on a lie.
"Crime data shows El Paso was not "one of our nation's most dangerous cities"
An FBI tool allows users to view violent crime rates reported by police agencies, from 1985 to 2014. The FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting program classifies four offenses as violent crime: murder and nonnegligent manslaughter, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault.
Every year from 1985 to 2014, El Paso’s violent crime rate was significantly lower than the average for all localities of similar size. (Note: Not all departments reported data every year.)"
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...crime-el-paso/
Look at all the noncitizens in this thread w opinions. Tight lives faggots.
Um, Les, it looks like Trump was right.
From your own link:
Former President George W. Bush signed the Secure Fence Act of 2006, which called for the construction of barriers at the southwest border, including the El Paso region. About 42 miles of fencing were built in the El Paso Sector between August 2008 and July 2009, said a report from U.S. Customs and Border Protection.
Looks like a decease to me.
I just said his claim is based on a lie. The most dangerous city was not El Paso at the time of the border fence
construction. As anyone can clearly see the crime rate was in a steady decline long before.
You could say anything was responsible for the drop. This man lies, lies, lies and there are many gullible, ignorant or uncaring voters who accept it.
sad
And btw, the whole hypothesis that illegal immigrants are responsible for America's crime rate is untrue. As untrue that the "caravans"
are loaded with potential illegals who have leprosy and small pox.
And if you didn't notice, just above the chart is the following line.
"It also increased from 2006 to 2011 by 9.6 per cent." You missed that I guess.
sad
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"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
Isn't Russia and China involved too? I am barely following this thing, but it seems to me this is a Cold War style proxy war and the stakes are a lot higher than Venezuela. If we do nothing and let Russia and/or China manipulate things for their own benefit, is that a better alternative? I honestly don't know. Interested to hear your take on the geopolitical implications.
Wait a second, I was eating sliced steak when I talked to that waiter, that's it REGIME CHANGE NOW!!!
1000% correct, more russia than china but china is gobbling up any mineral rights it can get its hands on, notably in africa and afghanistan, but its also doing its predatory loan scam to get lumber rights in brazil/columbia/and no doubt venezuela as well.
russia however is using it very much like they used syria and attempted to use cuba; deploying "military advisors" and essentially purchasing political influence for pennies on the dollar thanks to our inane nonsense neo-blockade.
note that trump had _zero_ interest in interventionist foreign conflict while campaigning but the second he got read in, his tune changed about venezuela. im assuming he understands that this is a big ticket win for us, on top of the oil reserves, but all of south america has been a focal point for 'domino theory' more so than anyplace else, and we are talking like literally starting in the late 40s.
what was on bolton's notepad that day? 'send 5000 troops to columbia'?
i mean.... :
first thing russia will do is probably finance a fucking wall on that border, just to fuck with trump's head.
bottom line as i see it, russia understands that it's fucked up america but good and they arent about to let us gain the sort of W that having a right wing puppet in veneuela would provide.
it wont hurt us at home but there is going to be an absolute fucking bloodbath when we start training and arming fascist death squads in the eastern columbian hills.
also shallow N-level analysis: we cant have a socialist country succeed so we are kicking venezuela's teeth in.
Last edited by sonatine; 02-09-2019 at 02:11 PM.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
The Dixie Chicks were right. I mean correct
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