Thread: Time to get on the TRUMP train

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    russia is now pushing a tulsi gabbard campaign


    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...abbard-n964261


    its a reasonable inference that they have dirt on her that will tip the scales towards whatever catastrophe they manage to push through the GOP primaries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    russia is now pushing a tulsi gabbard campaign


    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...abbard-n964261


    its a reasonable inference that they have dirt on her that will tip the scales towards whatever catastrophe they manage to push through the GOP primaries.
    no, it's because she's the only candidate that was never pro-regime change in syria, which aligns with russia's views. i believe she even met with assad

    as we all know, pushing for regime change in syria has worked out really well for us.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
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    russia is now pushing a tulsi gabbard campaign


    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...abbard-n964261


    its a reasonable inference that they have dirt on her that will tip the scales towards whatever catastrophe they manage to push through the GOP primaries.
    no, it's because she's the only candidate that was never pro-regime change in syria, which aligns with russia's views. i believe she even met with assad

    as we all know, pushing for regime change in syria has worked out really well for us.
    respectfully there are a lot of non-interventionists coming down the pipes; the syrian policy is a happy coincidence, to be sure. but syrian regime change is dead in the water and has been for a minute. its unlikely there isnt something with greater political density behind this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    no, it's because she's the only candidate that was never pro-regime change in syria, which aligns with russia's views. i believe she even met with assad

    as we all know, pushing for regime change in syria has worked out really well for us.
    respectfully there are a lot of non-interventionists coming down the pipes; the syrian policy is a happy coincidence, to be sure. but syrian regime change is dead in the water and has been for a minute. its unlikely there isnt something with greater political density behind this.
    she had the balls (stupidity, maybe?) to publicly say she's skeptical that assad gassed his own people, something that russia was obviously pushing too. (this is also something that every poster here is also skeptical of). I highly doubt that other candidates went this far, but i may be wrong.

    this is exactly the type of anti neo-con perspective that russia would love. and there are a lot of non-interventionists running, but none quite as strong as tulsi is about it

    we have zero reason to think she has been compromised by the russians, as compared to trump. she won't win the democratric nomination, but she brings an interesting (needed) perspective. When she's eliminated, it won't be like she's a jill stein type spoiler. She's not going to run as a third party candidate

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    Russia should really just get behind whoever they don't want to win this time around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
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    respectfully there are a lot of non-interventionists coming down the pipes; the syrian policy is a happy coincidence, to be sure. but syrian regime change is dead in the water and has been for a minute. its unlikely there isnt something with greater political density behind this.
    she had the balls (stupidity, maybe?) to publicly say she's skeptical that assad gassed his own people, something that russia was obviously pushing too. (this is also something that every poster here is also skeptical of). I highly doubt that other candidates went this far, but i may be wrong.

    this is exactly the type of anti neo-con perspective that russia would love. and there are a lot of non-interventionists running, but none quite as strong as tulsi is about it

    we have zero reason to think she has been compromised by the russians, as compared to trump. she won't win the democratric nomination, but she brings an interesting (needed) perspective. When she's eliminated, it won't be like she's a jill stein type spoiler. She's not going to run as a third party candidate

    i feel like there is a blurred line here between 'russia is pushing for someone they have dirt on' and 'russia has compromised her and she is their joe' or something.

    my point is that russia doesnt make moves without calculating equity 10 moves deep. non-interventionism in venezuela would certainly capture russia's interest. the syria show however is stuck in pre-production pending another breakup of whatever glue is holding together New Russia. if you want to go full fps on it, it's not exactly a stretch to say thats why we left the embers of isis smoldering there, but thats another conversation.

    more likely to me, on reflection, is that russia stuck its dick in the nuclear arms race bear trap, which bankrupted it once and has the potential to easily do so again. so they are going to look for someone whose going to give them an non-humiliating way to come back to the negotiating table.
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    Are we trying to flesh out real scenarios? If so, let's not forget about the continual interference by the Chi coms.....

    The US seems to have morphed into a centralized lobbying firm, if you have a problem, we have a candidate....

     
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    dish what odds will you give me that trumps half retarded son, don jr, gets indicted? and can i get a prop on whether or not its for lying to the senate intelligence committee under oath?
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    She is the best Democrat candidate by a mile.

    That Putin is on to something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post

    my point is that russia doesnt make moves without calculating equity 10 moves deep.
    I stopped by this thread to see what you’re up to. I still don’t know.

    I typically love your work but the above colorful line piqued one of my issues with the Trump/Russia cocktail chatter.

    Cliffs
    Putin disliked Hillary personally. He expected her to win but why not bloody her nose. Throw some pimply Bosnian teens on the DNC servors and see what happens.

    Putin never envisioned Trump becoming President any more than the rest of us. As a KGB alumnus it’s just habit to cast your kompromat wherever possible. Think Tyde planting his seed in Thailand.

    I believe Trump ACTUALLY becoming President did not result in universal joy in the bureaucratic corridors of Moscow. Real shit, like removing Russian sanctions, was never gonna happen with a boob like Trump. You knew it and they did too.

    There was no grand coordinated plan. Putin and his tight kleptocracy run shit. He’s no brain surgeon. Consider this: Putin has been CEO for almost 20 years. He’s been ensconced longer than anyone since Stalin. A country with those resources and it has the GDP of Portugal.

    There’s no plan except stay in power as long as possible and steal lotsa stuff.
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    Good thing the US doesn't have to worry about China.

    I mean, that's a country that could be an actual threat to the US.

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    How does the US pulling out of the nuclear arms treaty with russia affect the collusion narrative? On its face, this seems really bad for russia.

    I admit i have no idea if the US is actually following through with this though

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    What do you think Putin's boogyman fee is to the Democrats?

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    https://time.com/5518947/donald-trum.../?xid=tcoshare

    “What is most troubling, say these officials and others in government and on Capitol Hill who have been briefed on the episodes, are Trump’s angry reactions when he is given information that contradicts positions he has taken or beliefs he holds,” Time reported. “Two intelligence officers even reported that they have been warned to avoid giving the President intelligence assessments that contradict stances he has taken in public.”

    During a briefing on a key U.S. airbase on the Diego Garcia atoll in the Indian Ocean, Trump reportedly questioned briefers as to whether the people were nice and the beaches were good.

    “Some of us wondered if he was thinking about our alliance with the Brits and the security issues in an important area where the Chinese have been increasingly active, or whether he was thinking like a real estate developer,” on official said.

    During another briefing, Trump claimed that independent countries of Nepal and Bhutan — which he mispronounced — were part of India.
    just another quick reminder that the heartlands elected an actual retard to the highest office in the land.
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    i'd be shocked if trump didn't tell theresa may that she smelled nice immediately upon meeting her

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    https://time.com/5518947/donald-trum.../?xid=tcoshare

    “What is most troubling, say these officials and others in government and on Capitol Hill who have been briefed on the episodes, are Trump’s angry reactions when he is given information that contradicts positions he has taken or beliefs he holds,” Time reported. “Two intelligence officers even reported that they have been warned to avoid giving the President intelligence assessments that contradict stances he has taken in public.”

    During a briefing on a key U.S. airbase on the Diego Garcia atoll in the Indian Ocean, Trump reportedly questioned briefers as to whether the people were nice and the beaches were good.

    “Some of us wondered if he was thinking about our alliance with the Brits and the security issues in an important area where the Chinese have been increasingly active, or whether he was thinking like a real estate developer,” on official said.

    During another briefing, Trump claimed that independent countries of Nepal and Bhutan — which he mispronounced — were part of India.
    just another quick reminder that the heartlands elected an actual retard to the highest office in the land.

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    Leaked Memo Reveals Trump INTENDED to Traumatize Migrant Children


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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    russia is now pushing a tulsi gabbard campaign


    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...abbard-n964261


    its a reasonable inference that they have dirt on her that will tip the scales towards whatever catastrophe they manage to push through the GOP primaries.

    "The Russian propaganda machine that tried to influence the 2016 U.S. election is now promoting the presidential aspirations of a controversial Hawaii Democrat who earlier this month declared her intention to run for president in 2020."

    ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    dish what odds will you give me that trumps half retarded son, don jr, gets indicted? and can i get a prop on whether or not its for lying to the senate intelligence committee under oath?

    https://www.predictit.org/markets/de...y-Dec-31,-2019

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    predictit looks absurdly addicting and i need to get in on this

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