Originally Posted by
RS_
Part of the problem, or perhaps the main problem, with all this political correctness bullshit is people misinterpret what "equality" means. Equality means that we should show each other similar respect, we have the same worth as a human, we have basic human rights, and all that good stuff. People mix this up to mean people are equal in every possible way.
Men and women are equal -- we should be respected equally, neither be taken advantage of, and all that good stuff. That doesn't mean we are equal in strength, physical fitness, baby nurturing, or whatever else. Same goes with race and sexual orientation. How many Asians do you see in pro sports compared to blacks? It's not that blacks are better than Asians as human beings, but they are better than them at sports. Elementary school teachers and others in child-care tend to be women. That doesn't mean women are better than men as human beings, it means they're better at them at child-care shit.
Now we got boys turning into girls and girls turning into boys, damn - how time has changed.
The child care and early childhood education thing is rarely discussed, but it would be impossible for a man to get such a job nowadays.
And rightfully so. Not only are women more nurturing, but the incidence of them molesting young children is about zero, whereas with men it's a legit risk. While there are plenty of stories of female teachers having sex with 16-year-old students, women simply don't molest prepubescent kids. That's actually something women should be proud of -- as a gender, they simply don't seem to have the tendency to molest little children like a certain percentage of men do.
How many of you would feel good leaving your 3-year-old alone with a man for the day (one who is a relative stranger), even if you knew 100% that he was capable enough to take care of the kid?
My point is that each gender has its strengths and weaknesses. Men are physically stronger, more aggressive, more sexually deviant, has a higher percentage of it population being good at math, science, and engineering, and have a shorter lifespan. Women are more nurturing, less violent, far less sexually deviant, and more emotional. Some of these things (such as the physical strength factor and the violence factor) are easily accepted by today's society. Others -- such as the ability in math/science/engineering -- are considered taboo to discuss, and in fact can make you unemployable in some industries if discussed publicly.
The problem is that the left seems to be so hung up on so-called "gender equality" that they want to deny that there could be some inherent differences in the genders where men are superior in some things (aside from the super-obvious physical strength factor).
I don't see why it's so horrible to say, "There are a lot of very talented men AND very talented women in math/science/engineering, but a higher percentage of men tend to have such talent as compared to women."
You can't say anything like that nowadays, even if it's true. Political correctness demands that you say men and women have equal talent in math/science/engineering, and the patriarchy has simply kept women out of these jobs.
Interestingly, I do believe women WERE discouraged from such jobs -- especially in the past. So there probably were women who had the talent for such careers who were convinced to go into something else, but I think that's partially BECAUSE it was less common for women to be good at this stuff than men. So when a woman was good at math and wanted to go into engineering, she was met with doubt. I agree that parents and educators should be taught to encourage careers in math/science/engineering for girls who seem legitimately good at that, but it is ridiculous to shut down discussion of whether or not men and women have equal talent in this field, for fear of offending people.
But regardless of where you stand on this issue, it should scare people that many on the left even want to prevent DISCUSSION of this matter -- labeling it "hate speech".
I totally understand blake's point. The left often tries to prevent the right from sharing their point of view, while the right rarely does the same to the left. How often does someone have to worry about their career for openly supporting left-wing politics? How often is a left-wing speaker protested and attempted to be pushed out of being able to make his speech? How often does the right label the left's speech as "evil" or "hate speech" and attempt to censor it?
These things simply don't happen.
Leftists who love civil liberties should be appalled by the behavior of their own-party peers, but for some reason most make excuses for it.
I have always been a right-winger who loved civil liberties, hence my long history of running/participating in free-speech type online communities, and my criticism of fascist policies (such as civil forfeiture), regardless of whether it comes from the left or right.
The left has quickly descended into fascism and censorship in the name of "tolerance" and "equality", and it amazes me how this isn't scaring more people.
BTW, blake is probably the most politically centrist poster in this thread. So his criticism of the left and its political correctness is not coming from a right wing fanatic looking to vilify anything on the other side.
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