Time to get on the TRUMP train

[blake]

new poll released an hour ago has clinton beating trump by 15 points

http://time.com/4439918/hillary-clin...p-marist-poll/

lol

[blake]

even most republicans seem to think clinton would be a much better commander in chief than trump. I'm curious if the trump supporters here on pfa like 4d or drk agree with that or even care. if not, why?

i get that you hate hillary (and you're not wrong), but at the very least she's not actually crazy. calculating, criminal, sure. but not crazy. you guys seem convinced that all of trump's crazy statements are an act, but what if they're not? either he's joking 24/7 (maybe), or he's the least secure person to have ever lived. why would you want that person to have his hands on the nuclear button?

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By a 22-point margin, voters trust Clinton over Trump when it comes to using nuclear weapons (56-34 percent). That’s twice the advantage she held in May (49-38 percent).

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...-on-nukes.html

[Mintjewlips]

Keep swallowing the propaganda. I guess if you say it enough at some point it becomes fact.

[Sanlmar]

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By a 22-point margin, voters trust Clinton over Trump when it comes to using nuclear weapons (56-34 percent). That’s twice the advantage she held in May (49-38 percent).

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...-on-nukes.html

I don't think the President has the unilateral ability to launch a nuke. I guess it's a good hypothetical to gauge the public's opinion of a candidate's impulsiveness or craziness. But the nuke thing gets old.

Gotta go with the calculating bitch in this scenario.

[rum dick]

Gotta love how the trump supporters think the polls are gospel truth when he's winning but the same polls are "propaganda" when he's losing.

[Mintjewlips]

Say what you will about Trump, hate him or love him, there is absolutely no denying or debating, HE WON HIS NOMINATION fair in square, if anything they were OPENLY plotting to steal it from him. Agree with what he says or not there is ZERO debate about his nomination being won fairly. The guy won even as they were plotting OUT IN THE OPEN! They weren't hiding it, there wasn't secret meetings in smoky rooms to plot a conspiracy, IT WAS OUT IN THE OPEN AND HE STILL FUCKING WON!.

Totally fucking different then hillary.

Hillary shouldn't even be eligible, and i will not argue that Hillary had nothing to do with the debacle of the DNC but if a dealer gives someone extra chips doesn't the dealer ask for them back?, isn't Hillary's nomination invalid?.

No the MSM doesn't want to discuss the real issues, instead they focus everyday on telling you how voting for Donald is bad, the DNC are already last weeks news. It's so sad to see people actually fall for the rigged media narrative.

[sonatine]

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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...-on-nukes.html

I don't think the President has the unilateral ability to launch a nuke. I guess it's a good hypothetical to gauge the public's opinion of a candidate's impulsiveness or craziness. But the nuke thing gets old.

Gotta go with the calculating bitch in this scenario.

The issue here is that the president can stack the deck in his favor vis a vis what happened with Bush / neo-cons / Iraq.

[Sanlmar]

The issue here is that the president can stack the deck in his favor vis a vis what happened with Bush / neo-cons / Iraq.

The same way Bush had Cheney and his kin to wind his clock - who would be the man behind the curtain with Trump?

You know what? Let's not waste our time ... nvm

[blake]

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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...-on-nukes.html

I don't think the President has the unilateral ability to launch a nuke. I guess it's a good hypothetical to gauge the public's opinion of a candidate's impulsiveness or craziness. But the nuke thing gets old.

Gotta go with the calculating bitch in this scenario.

you're not correct. there have been a lot of stories recently about how the president has unilateral authority to launch nukes as long as the president believes it is necessary to prevent against an imminent attack

If he gave the command, his executing commanders would have no legal or procedural grounds to defy it no matter how inappropriate it might seem. As long as the president can establish his or her true identity by his or her personal presence in the Pentagon’s nuclear war room or its alternates (places like Site R at Fort Richie near Camp David), or by phone or other means of communications linking him or her to these war rooms using a special identification card (colloquially known as “the biscuit” containing “the nuclear codes”) in his or her possession (or, alternatively, kept inside the “nuclear briefcase” carried by his or her military aide who shadows the president everywhere he or she works, travels and plays), a presidential nuclear decision is lawful (putting international humanitarian law aside). It must be obeyed as long as it is constitutional—i.e., the president as commander in chief believes he or she is acting to protect and defend the nation against an actual or imminent attack.
But within these broad constraints there is no wiggle room for evasion or defiance of the president’s orders. That’s true even if the national security adviser, the secretary of defense (who along with the president makes up the “national command authority”) and other top appointees and advisers disagree with the president’s decision. It does not matter whether the United States has already come under attack by nuclear or non-nuclear weapons. It does not even matter if the commander in chief simply orders the use of nuclear weapons on an ordinary day for reasons unknown to all but him or her. Under the president’s open-ended mandate to decide when the national interest is threatened, ordering up a nuclear strike is his or her prerogative, and obeying the order is incumbent upon the military servants of civilian authority.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/sto...-policy-213955

[blake]

i can post a million more articles like this but you get the point

In short: A president could push the button all by himself or herself, legally- and constitutionally-speaking. Physically, military personnel would need to carry out the strike of course. They could choose not to, perhaps at the instruction of the secretary of defense or the four-star officer leading Strategic Command—who together constitute the chain of command between the president and the trigger-pullers. But any military officer ignoring a presidential order would be in open insubordination, subject to dismissal and court martial.

https://www.brookings.edu/2016/03/01...uclear-button/

[Mintjewlips]

Let's all suspend logic for this election and believe everything that these propagandist tell us. All major media outlets are owned by corporations that have vested interest in seeing hillary win. I like how when GW bush was running for his second term all the democrats belived the MSM was garbage now they treat it as gospel. Fucking rinse repeat.

[rum dick]

Hey mintjewlips apparently you haven't noticed but we all stopped listening to you around 20 posts ago. At this point you're just talking to yourself. So you might want to stop wasting your time writing multiple paragraphs of nonsense.

[thesidedish]

rum dick: somewhere thesaddish is losing poorly after reading that

not concerned in the least. watching u guys celebrate like u won something is proof how scared shitless u were last week tho. THAT FEELING WILL COME AGAIN


Edit for another rep response:

rum dick: might have something to do with them not being drunk and/or stoned (or retarded)

mite have everything to do with not taking risks and not understanding unorthodox views cuz they wouldn't dare want to try something they don't understand

[ToasterOven]

I'll always remember the stories of how Romney was surprised on election night that he was going to lose. If a bright, level headed guy like Romney won't come out of the bubble for real info, we can't expect Sad Dish and the Nut Lows to leave the bubble.

I'm expecting a right wing sight to start "unskewing" the polls any day now.

[Mintjewlips]

Hey rum dick who the fuck is we? Oh you feel like you speak for your group of libtards.

[blake]

Back to -300. Countdown to -500

-325 on bovada today

-350 on bovada today

[Mintjewlips]

And i didn't know rum dick could listen to post. You probably see dead people too.

[GambleBotsSatire]

this moron rum dick is a life long oklahomo mouth rape republican

[Mintjewlips]

this moron rum dick is a life long oklahomo mouth rape republican

This is all i need to know about this sister lovin oklahomo retard.

[thesidedish]

Here is one thing I know: there is no way a group of d-bags like Toaster Oven, Big Dick, Rum Dick, & LarryLaffer are gonna be laughing at me and eventually I will not emerge victorious. Legit 0% chance


Edit: seriously, u guys will look back at ur lives as Hillary shills with great shame, TAKE IT TO THE FUCKIN BANK

goes for u too sonatine, U WILL NOT BE WINNING