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Why would i support the Saudis? Apparently when you see first hand what chemical weapons and barrel bombs do to the civilian population you aren't that fond of the faction that's behind it.Originally Posted by Salty_Aus
I've never bought into the White Helmets are supporting the terrorists, has been many reports that they have. They're definitely anti government though.
You support the Saudis though right?
If we were to chose the less of two evils, I'd take the Baathist's over the Saudis... if it was any of my business.
I wonder what the worldwide stockpile on CW's is, and how much the west has made selling them.
There are more than two evils working in Syria.
There's too much heat associated with CW and not enough profit for west to bother anymore. They make more from selling conventional weapons. Helping a country to set up their chemical weapons program is a one time deal. West isn't about teaching men to fish. They prefer to sell fish, upgrade fish, accessorize fish, maintain fish and after a while sell the next improved generation of fish.
But you chose to assist the mostly Saudi funded terrorists/Jihadists over a sovereign country?Why would i support the Saudis? Apparently when you see first hand what chemical weapons and barrel bombs do to the civilian population you aren't that fond of the faction that's behind it.
I've never bought into the White Helmets are supporting the terrorists, has been many reports that they have. They're definitely anti government though.
You support the Saudis though right?
If we were to chose the less of two evils, I'd take the Baathist's over the Saudis... if it was any of my business.
I wonder what the worldwide stockpile on CW's is, and how much the west has made selling them.
There are more than two evils working in Syria.
There's too much heat associated with CW and not enough profit for west to bother anymore. They make more from selling conventional weapons. Helping a country to set up their chemical weapons program is a one time deal. West isn't about teaching men to fish. They prefer to sell fish, upgrade fish, accessorize fish, maintain fish and after a while sell the next improved generation of fish.
You actually believe the Syrian Government was behind these gas attacks? There is so much evidence the rebels/terrorists/jihadists have been making chemical weapons.
How am i assisting Saudi funded terrorists?But you chose to assist the mostly Saudi funded terrorists/Jihadists over a sovereign country?
You actually believe the Syrian Government was behind these gas attacks? There is so much evidence the rebels/terrorists/jihadists have been making chemical weapons.
Of course i believe that Syrian government is behind gas attacks and killing civilians with barrel bombs. That shouldn't be news to anyone. Thousand of reports, several years long investigations from multiple independent organizations vs blatant lies from connected sources. Not really rocket science on who to believe.
Are there 1300 tonnes worth of evidence? Not that many dots you need to connect here.
I don't really bother to keep up with propaganda you're fed. So Saudi funded terrorists means literally nothing to me. The real world isn't dumbed down like that. My apologies if that's too hard to follow, but that's just how it works.
You've taken a side, you agree with the actions of your government... good for you.How am i assisting Saudi funded terrorists?
Of course i believe that Syrian government is behind gas attacks and killing civilians with barrel bombs. That shouldn't be news to anyone. Thousand of reports, several years long investigations from multiple independent organizations vs blatant lies from connected sources. Not really rocket science on who to believe.
Are there 1300 tonnes worth of evidence? Really not that many dots you need to connect here.
I don't really bother to keep up with propaganda you're fed. So Saudi funded terrorists means literally nothing to me. The real world isn't dumbed down like that. My apologies if that's too hard to follow, but that's just how it works.
I beg to differ on who is lapping up the propaganda.
The side who is comprehensively routing the enemy, is guilty of committing an act to enrage more powerful countries to attack them... just for giggles hey.
And stop prattling on about weapons they have destroyed. Using this logic anyone who possesses these weapons is instantly guilty.How am i assisting Saudi funded terrorists?
Of course i believe that Syrian government is behind gas attacks and killing civilians with barrel bombs. That shouldn't be news to anyone. Thousand of reports, several years long investigations from multiple independent organizations vs blatant lies from connected sources. Not really rocket science on who to believe.
Are there 1300 tonnes worth of evidence? Not that many dots you need to connect here.
I don't really bother to keep up with propaganda you're fed. So Saudi funded terrorists means literally nothing to me. The real world isn't dumbed down like that. My apologies if that's too hard to follow, but that's just how it works.
The Russians brokered that deal you know. You'd turn your main ally against yourself in the process.
Again I will say, he had no logical reason to use them.
I'd suggest you engage your brain, but I feel it's pointless.
Last edited by Salty_Aus; 04-12-2018 at 06:42 AM.
I'm guessing you have no clue what are the actions of my government or even what my government is. But it's a good thing that doesn't stop you from making assumptions.You've taken a side, you agree with the actions of your government... good for you.
I beg to differ on who is lapping up the propaganda.
The side who is comprehensively routing the enemy, is guilty of committing an act to enrage more powerful countries to attack them... just for giggles hey.
Do we just go with the rationale that all Jihadists are bad and any support to them is something we should frown upon or do we give a pass to Hezbollah? I don't really know how you rationalize this.
How about supporting partisan groups? Is it all bad or just the Saudis? Do we conveniently give a pass to Iran, Lebanon, China, Russia and North Korea? Like i said i don't really know how this works.
Then regarding this logic thing. Was it illogical to use CWs for the latest time or do we keep reapplying this same logic to the previous 50 times as well. How does this all work with barrel bombs. Something the UN has also forbidden since it's frowned upon to use weapons that mostly seem to be killing civilians. Do we just take Syria's word for that as well or do we pretend the 60k bombs never happened? Were they all false flag operations from factions that don't have an air force?
I lack the expertise you can apparently acquire from watching several youtube videos that i don't have the confidence to say i have this all figured out.
You simply lack a logical mind.I'm guessing you have no clue what are the actions of my government or even what my government is. But it's a good thing that doesn't stop you from making assumptions.
You've taken a side, you agree with the actions of your government... good for you.
I beg to differ on who is lapping up the propaganda.
The side who is comprehensively routing the enemy, is guilty of committing an act to enrage more powerful countries to attack them... just for giggles hey.
Do we just go with the rationale that all Jihadists are bad and any support to them is something we should frown upon or do we give a pass to Hezbollah? I don't really know how you rationalize this.
How about supporting partisan groups? Is it all bad or just the Saudis? Do we conveniently give a pass to Iran, Lebanon, China, Russia and North Korea? Like i said i don't really know how this works.
Then regarding this logic thing. Was it illogical to use CWs for the latest time or do we keep reapplying this same logic to the previous 50 times as well. How does this all work with barrel bombs. Something the UN has also forbidden since it's frowned upon to use weapons that mostly seem to be killing civilians. Do we just take Syria's word for that as well or do we pretend the 60k bombs never happened? Were they all false flag operations from factions that don't have an air force?
I lack the expertise you can apparently acquire from watching several youtube videos that i don't have the confidence to say i have this all figured out.
OK, he's a very bad man and he just gassed his people again. *thumbs up*
Leave it at that.
Now that wasn't hard. Like most conspiracies this one also lacks the need. US/Saudi's or whoever doesn't need a specific event to justify military action against Syria. They can just pick one out of many. It doesn't even have to be that related to anything to sell a war to the public. Like 9/11 was good enough for Afghanistan and Iraq. There's no need to stage that specific event if something that has so little do with the next two wars can be used as an excuse for starting those.You simply lack a logical mind.
OK, he's a very bad man and he just gassed his people again. *thumbs up*
Leave it at that.
If Trump want's to show, that he's a strong leader while full filling his end of the bargain to several arms producers for campaign contributions, he can just wait few days. You don't have to stage atrocities in a hot civil war. World just isn't that nice.
Yes I did assume you had chosen a side, or at least approved of what is happening in Syria.I'm guessing you have no clue what are the actions of my government or even what my government is. But it's a good thing that doesn't stop you from making assumptions.
You've taken a side, you agree with the actions of your government... good for you.
I beg to differ on who is lapping up the propaganda.
The side who is comprehensively routing the enemy, is guilty of committing an act to enrage more powerful countries to attack them... just for giggles hey.
Do we just go with the rationale that all Jihadists are bad and any support to them is something we should frown upon or do we give a pass to Hezbollah? I don't really know how you rationalize this.
How about supporting partisan groups? Is it all bad or just the Saudis? Do we conveniently give a pass to Iran, Lebanon, China, Russia and North Korea? Like i said i don't really know how this works.
Then regarding this logic thing. Was it illogical to use CWs for the latest time or do we keep reapplying this same logic to the previous 50 times as well. How does this all work with barrel bombs. Something the UN has also forbidden since it's frowned upon to use weapons that mostly seem to be killing civilians. Do we just take Syria's word for that as well or do we pretend the 60k bombs never happened? Were they all false flag operations from factions that don't have an air force?
I lack the expertise you can apparently acquire from watching several youtube videos that i don't have the confidence to say i have this all figured out.
But all you really had to say is he's a lifelong dictator who surely gassed his people... and managed to sit on the fence too.
I'll not say that you're wrong, it is possible he did it. If I was to put odds on it I'd say it was 1000-1... but 100-1 is probably closer to an accurate market.
No big deal, we differ.
I just think Trump is trying to take advantage of the situation.Now that wasn't hard. Like most conspiracies this one also lacks the need. US/Saudi's or whoever doesn't need a specific event to justify military action against Syria. They can just pick one out of many. It doesn't even have to be that related to anything to sell a war to the public. Like 9/11 was good enough for Afghanistan and Iraq. There's no need to stage that specific event if something that has so little do with the next two wars can be used as an excuse for starting those.
If Trump want's to show, that he's a strong leader while full filling his end of the bargain to several arms producers for campaign contributions, he can just wait few days. You don't have to stage atrocities in a hot civil war. World just isn't that nice.
He's taken a position based on his own agenda and the facts are irrelevant.
We differ on believing Assad just gassed his people... simple.
it almost sounds like you think having a deranged reality tv star as the commander in chief is a bad thing
Didn't this same scenario happen with NK? and then what happened?? See this is why it's pointless to post in this thread anymore, u guys are too on tilt thanks to political mind manipulation and I've already said it all 5x. U eventually will all see it my way but don't need to talk about it for 5 years straight
And TRUMP THE GOD is playing the deep state like a fiddle, WHAT A FKN STUD
I dunno. My profile seems to be working pretty well so far. Not 100% but most of the ideologues seem to be posting as my profile would suggest.Is which correct? The answer is probably neither.
Here's hint. If you are going to quote a video from over a year ago make sure they are not part of the Russian disinformation campaign against the White Helmets which is well known. I've researched the white helmets independently and became very aware of how Russian trollbots are smearing them. Also when she starts talking like RegGaymer that should be a pretty big red flag in terms of staged terrorist attacks... She is a confident speaker but that is all.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/sy...-never-bombed/
Here's hint. If you are going to quote a video from over a year ago make sure they are not part of the Russian disinformation campaign against the White Helmets which is well known. I've researched the white helmets independently and became very aware of how Russian trollbots are smearing them. Also when she starts talking like RegGaymer that should be a pretty big red flag in terms of staged terrorist attacks... She is a confident speaker but that is all.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/sy...-never-bombed/
Wow guys look. We totally have North Korea wrong.... Sounds like they are an amazing advanced country... Great green power, free health care, free day care, "co op farms", great education system, amusement parks, transportation network cheapest in the world. Great to have Eva tells us how happy everyone is there...
Oh how the mainstream media has deceived us...
https://www.kla.tv/11789
I literally have no fucking clue what is really going on in Syria. Kind of depressing. Of the entities who probably know for sure what are going on (Russia, Syrian rebels and govt, media on the ground) I don't really trust any of them not to just flat out lie to push their own agenda.
As much as I rail on our mainstream media, I think most of them are actually reporting what they believe to be the truth, but I think they don't have very much verified information and are very susceptible to manipulation.
i don’t think most liberals or trump supporters are in favor of going to war with syria. the only people that seem to be are the career politicians in congress (on both sides) who are always looking for another war
You've got us right where you want us.
Didn't this same scenario happen with NK? and then what happened?? See this is why it's pointless to post in this thread anymore, u guys are too on tilt thanks to political mind manipulation and I've already said it all 5x. U eventually will all see it my way but don't need to talk about it for 5 years straight
And TRUMP THE GOD is playing the deep state like a fiddle, WHAT A FKN STUD
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