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    Source? Real Stormy Daniels? Why hasn't Trump denied it? Why pay $130K in hush money to someone you never had sex with?

    :desperation

    It's odd that Trump will argue or insult or pick on just about anybody on Twitter, but has said nothing at all to or about Stormy. I guess he is hoping the Stormy will blow over.
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    that bastion of liberal progression, the wall street journal, owned by notorious antifa crisis actor rupert murdoch, just harvested trump's soul:

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-tal...ald-1522106407

    im pretty sure after an article like that, trump becomes their slave in the afterlife.

     
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    The whole Stormy Daniels thing is a big nothing burger. No-one except people who already made up their mind Trump is the anti-Christ, give a flying fuck about this. I don't know a single person who gives a shit about this at all, and I doubt any of you do either. I mean, people might have tuned in to hear the gossip, but no-one is changing their mind on Trump on this. No-one who would have voted for him has changed his mind from this and vice versa.

    All the media is doing is making themselves seem partisan and pathetic IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hongkonger View Post
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    Source? Real Stormy Daniels? Why hasn't Trump denied it? Why pay $130K in hush money to someone you never had sex with?

    :desperation

    It's odd that Trump will argue or insult or pick on just about anybody on Twitter, but has said nothing at all to or about Stormy. I guess he is hoping the Stormy will blow over.

    Trump has denied it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hongkonger View Post

    Source? Real Stormy Daniels? Why hasn't Trump denied it? Why pay $130K in hush money to someone you never had sex with?

    :desperation

    It's odd that Trump will argue or insult or pick on just about anybody on Twitter, but has said nothing at all to or about Stormy. I guess he is hoping the Stormy will blow over.
    Blow over? Is there any indication that anybody but the media even cares? Like I said, people will tune in to get the gossip, but no-one is changing their mind about him one way or another because of this. He can basically just ignore it and that is that. Nothing to even ignore. It is just a whole lot of nothing.

    Like I said, if this was Obama or Bush this would be a story, because they presented themselves as virtuous Presidents, and all indication is they actually were (as far as mattes of infidelity go at least). Trump and Clinton not so much, so no-one cares when their affairs come to light. No-one but the media (mainly the right wing media) gave a shit about Clinton's affairs and no-one but the media (mainly the left wing, aka MSM) gives a shit about Trumps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by verminaard View Post
    The whole Stormy Daniels thing is a big nothing burger. No-one except people who already made up their mind Trump is the anti-Christ, give a flying fuck about this. I don't know a single person who gives a shit about this at all, and I doubt any of you do either. I mean, people might have tuned in to hear the gossip, but no-one is changing their mind on Trump on this. No-one who would have voted for him has changed his mind from this and vice versa.

    All the media is doing is making themselves seem partisan and pathetic IMO.
    You're right, Trump is the same piece of shit he always was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by verminaard View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hongkonger View Post

    Source? Real Stormy Daniels? Why hasn't Trump denied it? Why pay $130K in hush money to someone you never had sex with?

    :desperation

    It's odd that Trump will argue or insult or pick on just about anybody on Twitter, but has said nothing at all to or about Stormy. I guess he is hoping the Stormy will blow over.
    Blow over? Is there any indication that anybody but the media even cares? Like I said, people will tune in to get the gossip, but no-one is changing their mind about him one way or another because of this. He can basically just ignore it and that is that. Nothing to even ignore. It is just a whole lot of nothing.

    Like I said, if this was Obama or Bush this would be a story, because they presented themselves as virtuous Presidents, and all indication is they actually were (as far as mattes of infidelity go at least). Trump and Clinton not so much, so no-one cares when their affairs come to light. No-one but the media (mainly the right wing media) gave a shit about Clinton's affairs and no-one but the media (mainly the left wing, aka MSM) gives a shit about Trumps.
    Were you alive during the Lewinsky scandal? It was in every newspaper and on every tv news channel 24/7.
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    In fairness, the Lewinsky scandal was him lying under oath about fucking a staffer in the oval office, up to and including turking her with a cigar then smoking it.

    I'm not saying that in and of itself is some sort of hanging offense, I'm just saying that beyond being a federal crime to lie under oath, he absolutely disgraced and desecrated the oval office in many peoples eyes.

    And I'm a solid fan of Clinton by and large.

    But this Stormy deal, it is nothing near as salacious and tangible as the Lewinsky scandal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    In fairness, the Lewinsky scandal was him lying under oath about fucking a staffer in the oval office, up to and including turking her with a cigar then smoking it.

    I'm not saying that in and of itself is some sort of hanging offense, I'm just saying that beyond being a federal crime to lie under oath, he absolutely disgraced and desecrated the oval office in many peoples eyes.

    And I'm a solid fan of Clinton by and large.

    But this Stormy deal, it is nothing near as salacious and tangible as the Lewinsky scandal.
    Felony violation of campaign finance law.

    And why was Clinton even being asked about Lewinsky? I thought nobody cares who the president is fucking. That's what all the Trumptards say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hongkonger View Post
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    In fairness, the Lewinsky scandal was him lying under oath about fucking a staffer in the oval office, up to and including turking her with a cigar then smoking it.

    I'm not saying that in and of itself is some sort of hanging offense, I'm just saying that beyond being a federal crime to lie under oath, he absolutely disgraced and desecrated the oval office in many peoples eyes.

    And I'm a solid fan of Clinton by and large.

    But this Stormy deal, it is nothing near as salacious and tangible as the Lewinsky scandal.
    Felony violation of campaign finance law.

    And why was Clinton even being asked about Lewinsky? I thought nobody cares who the president is fucking. That's what all the Trumptards say.
    Cigar not penis though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hongkonger View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    In fairness, the Lewinsky scandal was him lying under oath about fucking a staffer in the oval office, up to and including turking her with a cigar then smoking it.

    I'm not saying that in and of itself is some sort of hanging offense, I'm just saying that beyond being a federal crime to lie under oath, he absolutely disgraced and desecrated the oval office in many peoples eyes.

    And I'm a solid fan of Clinton by and large.

    But this Stormy deal, it is nothing near as salacious and tangible as the Lewinsky scandal.
    Felony violation of campaign finance law.

    And why was Clinton even being asked about Lewinsky? I thought nobody cares who the president is fucking. That's what all the Trumptards say.
    A. That was 20 years ago. Our social mores have changed since then.
    B. Drawing a moral equivalence between an middle age reality TV actor having sex with a prostitute (basically) to a sitting president having sex with an intern who was barely legal age in the Oval Office is about as intellectually honest as saying Roy Moore and Al Franken scandals are moral equivalencies.
    C. Even at the time if Clinton had just said he did it without all the perjury issues the right wing media would have had their run, but for the most part people wouldn't have cared all that much. They would have enjoyed the scandal, but it wouldn't have affected their views of him or his presidency much.
    D. A better equivalent to Trumps indiscretions would be the Jennifer Flowers. Which wasn't that big a deal. It was a drama and people enjoyed the show, but no-one really cared much otherwise.

    -The violation of finance law, like Clinton's perjury thing, is just a legal issue. In the court of public opinion no one gives a fuck about either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duped_samaritan View Post
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    Felony violation of campaign finance law.

    And why was Clinton even being asked about Lewinsky? I thought nobody cares who the president is fucking. That's what all the Trumptards say.
    Cigar not penis though.
    If Trump was having sex with an intern in the Oval Office right now, including various acts of sodomy, there would probably be some interest. But an affair he had years ago when he wasn't even in office, where the most salacious detail is some light spanking. Yawn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hongkonger View Post
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    In fairness, the Lewinsky scandal was him lying under oath about fucking a staffer in the oval office, up to and including turking her with a cigar then smoking it.

    I'm not saying that in and of itself is some sort of hanging offense, I'm just saying that beyond being a federal crime to lie under oath, he absolutely disgraced and desecrated the oval office in many peoples eyes.

    And I'm a solid fan of Clinton by and large.

    But this Stormy deal, it is nothing near as salacious and tangible as the Lewinsky scandal.
    Felony violation of campaign finance law.

    And why was Clinton even being asked about Lewinsky? I thought nobody cares who the president is fucking. That's what all the Trumptards say.

    Yeah but again my point was that one was infinitely more salacious / sexy / incendiary than the other.

    You're mostly preaching the choir but there is a point being made there beyond the obvious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by verminaard View Post
    The whole Stormy Daniels thing is a big nothing burger. No-one except people who already made up their mind Trump is the anti-Christ, give a flying fuck about this. I don't know a single person who gives a shit about this at all, and I doubt any of you do either. I mean, people might have tuned in to hear the gossip, but no-one is changing their mind on Trump on this. No-one who would have voted for him has changed his mind from this and vice versa.

    All the media is doing is making themselves seem partisan and pathetic IMO.

    they should be relieved, the literal anti-Christ "will not desire women"

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    i honestly can't wait till dish is forced to suck his first tranny dick

     
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    for that reason alone, i'm voting democrat in 2020

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    Quote Originally Posted by verminaard View Post
    -The violation of finance law, like Clinton's perjury thing, is just a legal issue. In the court of public opinion no one gives a fuck about either.
    i agree with this but wasn't what trump did the exact same thing that got john edwards charged (albeit not found guilty)?

    this campaign finance thing has the potential to be problematic for trump. 50/50 this somehow gets investigated by mueller

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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by verminaard View Post
    -The violation of finance law, like Clinton's perjury thing, is just a legal issue. In the court of public opinion no one gives a fuck about either.
    i agree with this but wasn't what trump did the exact same thing that got john edwards charged (albeit not found guilty)?

    this campaign finance thing has the potential to be problematic for trump. 50/50 this somehow gets investigated by mueller
    Yeah. It could legally be a big issue and potentially even end his presidency. But no-one is changing their opinion on him as a President (for good or bad) because he violated campaign finance law giving a prostitute hush money.

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