Originally Posted by
verminaard
Hong,
I am not going to argue with you about what is right or wrong. You are an partisan tribal ideologue. Whatever your tribe does is right, and whatever the other tribe does is wrong. It is that simple for you.
So what is the point with arguing with someone who thinks like that? Same thing arguing with Mint or Tyde on the other side.
Not true. I've often disagreed politically with Hillary, Obama, Clinton and other Democrats, and said so. And gave Republicans credit for the good things they've done. I've even voted for Republicans, but not for president.
Regarding right and wrong, when they do something wrong they should be held accountable regardless of party. But just because their political opponents say they did something wrong that doesn't mean it's true. Great example is Benghazi, a manufactured scandal that was investigated by 4 Congressional committees and they did suggest changes to SOP going forward but all of them concluded that nobody in government including Hillary could be held responsible for what happened under circumstances and policies in effect at that time. Another example is Hillary's e-mails, which was actual wrongdoing. She handled them improperly but the Justice Department concluded that it wasn't egregious and serious enough to get an indictment from a grand jury. It is super fucking standard to drop a case if these veteran prosecutors decide they cannot get an indictment. It happens every day. It's worth noting and taking into account when forming an overall opinion but not worth getting bent out of shape about. Information should always flow freely, but the level of ire has to bear some relationship to the magnitude of the wrongdoing.