Thread: Time to get on the TRUMP train

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    So about $10 million in the 70s that we know of? That's about $45 million adjusted for inflation. Not what I would call a "small loan", but still pretty impressive to run that up into 10 figures.
    Exactly.

    I never understood this criticism of Trump.

    I can understand the criticism of the lack of ethics of some of his business practices, but not that he was a "failure".

    It's not like he inherited a billion and is now worth 200 million, and yet is claiming success.

    He definitely ran up a large amount of money into a huge amount of money. Props to him there, and props to him for using his outsized personality to create a brand which became recognizable and synonymous with success. Those are all real skills, whether his detractors want to admit it or not.

    Speaking of poor business skills, LOL at Twitter being afraid to capitalize on Trump's usage of their platform. Even without supporting or endorsing him, they could have promoted the hell out of this by repeatedly reminding everyone to sign up for Twitter in order to get an instant connection to this President and his communications to the American people.

    While Trump's usage of Twitter is no secret, there are plenty of less-tech-savvy Americans out there who don't realize that by creating a Twitter account and subscribing to him, they can see all of his commentary instantly, before news outlets report it.

    Instead, Twitter will continue with the status quo, and continue to lose money.

    Their decisions really leave me scratching my head sometimes.

    Reminds me of their cyberbullying/trolling issue. Twitter is pretty much a free-for-all and they censor almost nothing. This has actually hindered them from success, by their own admission. However, instead of changing how they handle abuse of their terms of service, they do absolutely nothing, aside from occasionally banning a celebrity like Milo in some weird phony display that they're handling the problem.
    For fuck sake, Druff! Trump was successful in NYC with his first big project (Trump Tower) because he bribed local politicians to give his property generous tax breaks, and the banks who lent him money knew his father implicitly would cover them if the project soured.

    Also, Trump pocketed about $150 million while running his casinos into the ground up to about the middle 1990s, leaving all of his investors holding the bag. And when building those casinos, he slowpayed subcontractors until they settled for a fraction of what he owed them.

    And since then, he has only has significant success in deals where Russians played a key role in the financial viabilty/success of the projects as buyers of overpriced properties, or as lenders when other banks wouldn't work with him. And that involvement has classic signs of being driven by money laundering.

    Why is it that you pride yourself on having super skills in identifying when some business or individual is likely engaging in fraud or shadiness, but you seem to give Trump a big pass on this? Because when it comes to pulling off shady and unethical shit businesswise, Trump makes Howard Lederer look like a third rate amateur.

     
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    But what if... like... he knew you'd know he knew? What then?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by duped_samaritan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    Exactly.

    I never understood this criticism of Trump.

    I can understand the criticism of the lack of ethics of some of his business practices, but not that he was a "failure".

    It's not like he inherited a billion and is now worth 200 million, and yet is claiming success.

    He definitely ran up a large amount of money into a huge amount of money. Props to him there, and props to him for using his outsized personality to create a brand which became recognizable and synonymous with success. Those are all real skills, whether his detractors want to admit it or not.

    Speaking of poor business skills, LOL at Twitter being afraid to capitalize on Trump's usage of their platform. Even without supporting or endorsing him, they could have promoted the hell out of this by repeatedly reminding everyone to sign up for Twitter in order to get an instant connection to this President and his communications to the American people.

    While Trump's usage of Twitter is no secret, there are plenty of less-tech-savvy Americans out there who don't realize that by creating a Twitter account and subscribing to him, they can see all of his commentary instantly, before news outlets report it.

    Instead, Twitter will continue with the status quo, and continue to lose money.

    Their decisions really leave me scratching my head sometimes.

    Reminds me of their cyberbullying/trolling issue. Twitter is pretty much a free-for-all and they censor almost nothing. This has actually hindered them from success, by their own admission. However, instead of changing how they handle abuse of their terms of service, they do absolutely nothing, aside from occasionally banning a celebrity like Milo in some weird phony display that they're handling the problem.
    Trump’s net worth has grown about 300% to an estimated $4 billion since 1987, according to a report by the Associated Press. But the real estate mogul would have made even more money if he had just invested in index funds. The AP says that, if Trump had invested in an index fund in 1988, his net worth would be as much as $13 billion.

    The S&P 500 has grown 1,336% since 1988.

    Other billionaires’ net worths have beaten the stock market’s growth in that time. Bill Gates, for example, saw his grow increase 7,173% since 1988 to $80 billion. Warren Buffet’s wealth grew 2,612% in the same time period, to $67.8 billion.


    http://fortune.com/2015/08/20/donald-trump-index-funds/

    until someone can point to anyone keeping there money in index funds for decades untouched, i have to laugh at this comparison. comparing him to bill gates is laughable as well, aside from mentioning that ppl used to want to be trump rich until gates blew up. warren is a hero to me tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vegas1369 View Post
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    YOU GOT A LIAR ISSUE.
    Nah, just a guy too lazy to use Google.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...-give-his-son/
    Not sure if this is directed at me but if it is, fuck off.

     
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    trump's wife fighting with his ex-wife on twitter is the type of dignity and leadership the highest office in the land has yearned for.
    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    I particularly enjoyed the golf tweet. I bet his "unhinged" mate got 2 scoops of ice cream in the clubhouse afterwards.



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    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Quick reminder Puerto Rico's power has been restored to less than 15% of the island and Trump is challenging people to IQ tests on twitter.
    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Quick reminder Puerto Rico's power has been restored to less than 15% of the island and Trump is challenging people to IQ tests on twitter.
    ...and then backing down from that challenge after MENSA offered to make it happen. So alpha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyB View Post
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    Quick reminder Puerto Rico's power has been restored to less than 15% of the island and Trump is challenging people to IQ tests on twitter.
    ...and then backing down from that challenge after MENSA offered to make it happen. So alpha.
    If Trump loses, the test is rigged. Totally unfair! Fake standardized test.
    HILLARY WON

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    Quote Originally Posted by vegas1369 View Post
    Ya, I am sure this was a freestyle too

    Trump still owning all the libtards

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinamaniac View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by vegas1369 View Post
    Ya, I am sure this was a freestyle too

    Trump still owning all the libtards
    it was so terrible it better be a freestyle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RealTalk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by chinamaniac View Post
    Ya, I am sure this was a freestyle too

    Trump still owning all the libtards
    it was so terrible it better be a freestyle.
    I couldn't watch more than 30 seconds of it. TRUMP = GOD.

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    more cringeworthy - that freestyle or this interview?


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