you asked a question, i answered it. something like that.
you asked a question, i answered it. something like that.
Last edited by sonatine; 08-03-2017 at 08:42 PM.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
We already dull our instincts. Things such as age of consent in the 1st world. We'd be extinct if that would have been the norm in human history.
How i view things has fairly little to do with altruism. It's just self preservation. 1st world sets the pace for violence. It won't be at our door steps unless we fuck it up internally and that's really how it's been a few hundred years.
Trump didn't campaign for the top spot. He campaigned for isolationism and protectionism. There are no one way barriers for trade. Most of his actual policy suggestions would have weakened the conditions for his base. Doesn't really matter anymore. The level of his incompetence really is staggering.
Maybe because Trump had gotten away with fucking people over for decades and just moving on to the next sucker he thought he could get away with burning every bridge he faced in Washington. That's not really how it works there. To get something done you need cooperation and if you have something to hide you need protection. It seems the majority of the GOP no longer thinks they can even compromise with him. Not even a useful idiot anymore.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
i really dont envy the GOP in this spot. they need to depose trump without inciting a populist uprising. there are going to be a lot of very pissed off, very disenfranchised poor white trash looking for heads to put on pikes and its going to be real hard to somehow put this on the democrats when they have been excluded completely from every element of federal legislation. when jethro turns on fox and friends looking to understand why his brand new trumpcare no longer covers his oxycontin, hes not going to want to hear about 'russia' or 'lock her up'.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
I get it, you don't like President Trump, that was pretty clear in the double digit pages of this thread, so reading your interpretation in what President Trumps policies were while he was campaigning for the presidency is laughable at best.
If we're going to hold every president to their campaign promises then the last 50 years or so of presidents are for sure lying scumbags.
The facts are, the struggle between national socialism and international socialism didn't stop after WW2, that coupled with a million other variables, including who will be the first to profit from space, has put this country in a polarized tail spin.
You have so many factions operating inside this 2 party system, its hard to tell who is who, who stands for what, who is faking being this or that, or all the above. Once you realize how many groups are gunning to control the ship, a massive government conspiracy starts to look like factional proxy wars held within our government agencies, along with flat out treason on both sides of the aisle.
So after saying all that, do i think President Trump knew what he was getting himself into....
Here's why, the man has billions of dollars, I'll even be REALLY conservative and say he only has 800 million, lol either way he has WAY more money then everyone combined one this forum, including Cmoney (i think). Have any of you ever suspended your hatred for the President and asked yourselves why an old white guy with yatchs, hotels, a shit load of money and a banging wife with nice fake tits would ever run for president, not once but twice?
If we use logic, one thing that is for sure is he really wanted the job. But why?.
President Trump went through the gauntlet of 90's era tabloid scandals, anyone under 30 has no fucking idea how bad those scandals could really fuck up someones life, worse then any doxxing could ever do imo, mainly because you don't need a computer to catch a glimpse of gossip about you while your in line checking out at the store.
Now sure alot of that drama he caused, or because of his super confident attitude, im sure it rubbed alot of people the wrong way. I never cared for him prior to 2016, just another narcissistic rich douche billionaire to me, but as i started to tune into the madness, alot of it didn't make sense, for starters why does this super rich white guy want to be president, i wasn't satisfied with "he just wants the attention" or other nonsensical explanations. For starters, he got more attention then any president that i can remember, and that was just in the primaries. "He's just doing it for free self promotion of his brand", sure he trotted out steaks and bottled water, didn't skip an opportunity to plug his hotels, but the "crazy" shit he was saying was diminishing any possible gains he could have attained, or so it seemed that way.
So everyone has an agenda, especially people seeking political office, i couldn't figure it out, as we all know, political campaign promises are seldomly achieved, i can't recall a president that got even a quater of the shit he promised done, so even though alot of the ideas Trump appealed to me, i knew alot would not be accomplished.
I liked his nationalist approach, and if you really payed attention he was actually promoting national socialism for the most part, if you really are being objective. He wanted to repeal obamacare but still wanted national healthcare for everyone, even after the election he admitted he liked parts of obamacare and wanted to keep them, one of them being preexisting conditions, but that was all lost in the noise.
But i still couldn't see his true motives, it just didn't make sense, unless you actually believe that this douchey rich white guy actually is a human being and cares for the country and he was so narcissistic that he thought he could turn the tide and bring stability to the cluster fuck that is the US government. It's outlandish i know.
"Druff would suck his own dick if it were long enough"- Brandon "drexel" Gerson
"ann coulter literally has more common sense than pfa."-Sonatine
"Real grinders supports poker fraud"- Ray Davis
"DRILLED HER GOOD"- HONGKONGER
Saying that someone can't interpret Trumps policy suggestions because they don't like him is kinda silly. I do hold people accountable for their words even if i know they are lying.
Campaign promises are a list of things politicians claim they are trying to achieve. Once they are in office we can see what they are actually trying to do. It's obv over promising and under delivering nearly always. In Trumps case there seems to be a difference with his private positions and public positions in a lot of issues.
Sure he said he was going to drain the swamp, but it's a strange tactic to first fill it with the finest swamp lords money can buy. Sure he wanted to keep preexisting conditions, but not that much that he wasn't ready to promote a bill that would have fucked over 20 million people.
I don't really care what the motives of conmen are. Just identifying them is enough for me. I also don't think presidency is a type of position you can easily learn on the job. Seems like huge waste of every ones time to even let anyone try especially if you first have to teach how to play with others.
ps. slight possibility that you think national socialism means something completely different than it does
Secret Service Vacates Trump Tower Post Over Dispute with............BUILDING MANAGEMENT
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.5cd547e1c5f1
you can't even make this up folks. Squeezing the fucking shit out of the tax payer.
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
George Steinbrenner
https://twitter.com/twt/status/893160463709741056
lol what family
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
https://twitter.com/twt/status/893078839609495552
http://ir.net/news/politics/126520/r...ganized-crime/
Netanyahu's Top Aide Turning State's Witness Leaves Little Doubt: The PM Will Be Indicted
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.805202
It's pretty interesting to watch the media bias, they're bending over backwards to overlook the elephant in the room, Kushner and Israel. All this talk about foreign influence on our elections without mentioning Israel, lol.
Who's the one who still has a security clearance and is still on the job and therefore is still a natsec threat? Kushner
Who tried to shake down Qatar for half a billion dollars? Kushner
Who lied under penalty of perjury about all kinds of shit on their security clearance form? Kushner
Who's the one who got busted trying to set up a secure line of communication to Russia? . Kushner.
I never said you couldn't interpret President Trumps 2016 campaign promises if you didn't like him, i just find your interpretation hilarious. He literally said he wanted to make deals with everyone, i don't see how that suggest isolationism.
You're picking him apart and holding him to a different standard as if lying by omission wouldn't make conmen/women out of anyone in politics today according to your own logic.
President Trump isn't your typical politician, he isn't a politician by todays standards, he isn't polished and articulate or charismatic, or all the things people like Karl Rove look for in a potential puppet. President Trump has a CEO mentality, he sees the greater picture with the help of his advisors and delegates task to subordinates, except he wasn't taking over a company, its more akin too a CEO taking over a ministry, you have a materialist trying to delegate orders to dogmatic individuals, and if they aren't on the same page a struggle brakes out, which is what is happening today, you have alot of the old dogmatic guard still around and they aren't going down with out a fight.
The only problem is, President Trump wouldn't come to a gun fight without a bazooka.
Like I've stated before, the man has an entire faction behind him, they don't call it a silent majority for nothing. Soooooo many military people that are rooting for him, not just the military contracters.
And yes i know what the international socialist pretend to be, but history shows their true colors. I guess one way to end poverty is killing millions of your own people........
"Druff would suck his own dick if it were long enough"- Brandon "drexel" Gerson
"ann coulter literally has more common sense than pfa."-Sonatine
"Real grinders supports poker fraud"- Ray Davis
"DRILLED HER GOOD"- HONGKONGER
God will someone please ship jim acosta on a banana boat back to cuba pronto!. Guy is a fucking disgrace.
"Druff would suck his own dick if it were long enough"- Brandon "drexel" Gerson
"ann coulter literally has more common sense than pfa."-Sonatine
"Real grinders supports poker fraud"- Ray Davis
"DRILLED HER GOOD"- HONGKONGER
This is kinda pointless as long as you keep drinking the kool-aid. In reality Trump doesn't have magical properties.
I'm not saying that willingness to make deals with anyone suggests isolationism. Policy suggestions and his actions towards isolationism on the other do. Doesn't really matter if he does it by accident out of sheer incompetence.
Lying by omission rarely comes up with Trump. He tells too many lies for anyone to care.
They call it the silent majority to disguise the fact that it's a very loud minority.
Are you somehow under the impression that several libtards are in favor of totalitarianism?
This would be infinitely easier if you just bothered to spend 30 mins to find out what social democracy, socialism and national socialism mean.
Kamala Harris, if she's given the opportunity I believe she could be worse than Hillary.
Remember the party in the Hamptons a week or two back, the one with Kushner, Soros, Schumer and some media bosses. Guess who else attended, Kamala Harris. Coincidentally it was the very next day that she was all over the MSM as the probable Dem candidate in 2020.
This is also a nice reminder of the misery Manuchin has unleashed via his "thousand instances of criminal foreclosure". He should be in jail if Kamala Harris did her job, instead he's our treasury sec and she's the supposed top dog for 2020.
Last edited by FPS_Russia; 08-04-2017 at 11:25 PM.
We've seen the media's blatant double standard in the handling of Kushner's treason but what about the courts.
I was wondering how Schneiderman was going to get away with letting his fellow tribesman off with a slap on the wrist while sticking it to everyone else in the Trump clan.
https://twitter.com/twt/status/893636814157819904
If you're Jewish (Soros/Oligarchs/Debeers Africa)you can plunder entire continents, send their entire population into perma poverty with no worries.
It looks like Martin Shkreli didn't get the memo. Hey Goy, don't drop the soap.
CAITLYN JENNER NOW HATES DONALD TRUMP CLEARLY THE END IS NIGH
http://www.thedailybeast.com/caitlyn...ga-hat-mistake
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
You accuse him of isolationism but provide zero specific cases.
You are still focusing on one person and not the system as a whole.
I gave you an objective view to trump compared to the usual libtard view.
And if you are seriously going to argue that libtards aren't begging for totalitarianism then this conversation is over. The countless calls for specific racial laws, or trans laws, or the rest of the calls for sjw type laws to be enacted that don't coincide with a "democracy".
A good democracy changes socially with ideas not laws, so if the country isn't to your liking then guess what, go out and protest and change the minds of the public, enacted these stupid laws only make the people you are trying to persuade resent the community that those laws are trying to help.
And how hypocritical are you that you pick and choose what to be condescending about, typical libtard mentality. Meanwhile obama bombs innocent of civilian women and children with drones and you probably shed a tear when he left office like the rest of the libtards.
"Druff would suck his own dick if it were long enough"- Brandon "drexel" Gerson
"ann coulter literally has more common sense than pfa."-Sonatine
"Real grinders supports poker fraud"- Ray Davis
"DRILLED HER GOOD"- HONGKONGER
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