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    for better or worse, people just don't view health care the same way they view other services that are subject to market forces. more and more people just expect it as a right.

    what are health care costs like in canada? i honestly don't know and i'm too lazy to google. just wondering what will happen when we eventually go single payer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    A group of egomaniacal dicks who thought they could shovel an unlikeble cunt down the countries throat?

    Ohhhh so you think politics is a popularity contest, not an opportunity to embrace actual policy and steer the planet towards the future.

    You sir, are an absolute caution.
    I think it's hillarious that people who hang out on your side Of the isle on most issues are quick to point out the electoral college impact to the general election but won't actively discuss/acknowledge the impact of DNC superdelegates giving us the president we have today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Druff your party is literally taking away medical coverage from disabled children so they can push through a tax break for the rich and you're like "LOL HER EMAILS".

    I know you had a rough WSOP but pull it together.
    WSOP is only half over for me.

    Your description of Republicans' attempts at healthcare reform is highly loaded and inaccurate. And I say this as someone who does NOT agree with the way Republicans have handled healthcare reform (see my message about an hour ago).

    This isn't about "taking away medical coverage from disabled children" (or any other sympathetic group), nor is it a "tax break for the rich".

    Republicans are saying, "The subsidy train is out of control, we need to rein it in, and some people have to start paying their fair share."

    Democrats are saying, "OMG OMG OMG, you're taking away healthcare from kids! No, the government needs to subsidize even MORE, and in fact, how about dat single payer idea we keep tossing out there?"

    I am saying, "Instead of fighting about who pays into our horrendously inefficient, confusing, and corrupt healthcare system, how about we work hard to bring costs down, and THEN figure out who pays?"

    I'm way out of my depth talking about in the inner workings of US healthcare. But if they're making amendments which is literally going to kill thousands of Americans, because of money.

    Then isn't that like totally fucking immoral?

    They find money to bail out banks and spend hundreds of billions on pointless wars. But they can't keep sick people/kids alive until they find a real solution to this mess?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post


    Ohhhh so you think politics is a popularity contest, not an opportunity to embrace actual policy and steer the planet towards the future.

    You sir, are an absolute caution.
    I think it's hillarious that people who hang out on your side Of the isle on most issues are quick to point out the electoral college impact to the general election but won't actively discuss/acknowledge the impact of DNC superdelegates giving us the president we have today.

    Umm, what? What exactly are you saying about super delegates here? Are you saying Bernie would have won if not for super delegates?

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    The Republican "health care bill" is not a health care bill, it is a tax cut. They essentially leave ACA in place, including insurance subsidies but simply pull money out to cut taxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post
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    And manages to spend a far greater of its GDP on healthcare than countries with "socialised healthcare" for worse outcomes.
    Well, yes. That and the fact that the US health care system is the best in the world by a factor of 10.
    I think you need to re-examine such rhetoric. It's clearly below par and it looks like it might get worse.
    The rich enjoy the best money can afford but that's the only area it can be seen as better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Hordell View Post
    Word on the street Justice Kennedy is retiring, meaning Donald Trump is going to name a SECOND Supreme Court Justice in his first year alone!

    We are getting back to the Constitution people!

    Fuck, I am proud to be an American. Damn proud.
    Getting back to the constitution lol. You don't know the first damn thing about the constitution.

    What's your source for Kennedy retiring? The same guy who told you Manziel will be MVP?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post


    Ohhhh so you think politics is a popularity contest, not an opportunity to embrace actual policy and steer the planet towards the future.

    You sir, are an absolute caution.
    I think it's hillarious that people who hang out on your side Of the isle on most issues are quick to point out the electoral college impact to the general election but won't actively discuss/acknowledge the impact of DNC superdelegates giving us the president we have today.
    It's appalling. But the DNC is a private organization and can choose their nominee however they want. Parties used to choose at their conventions, up through the 60s. Not that this was better but just to make the point.

    The EC is not private; it's part of the constitution and it happens to be a ridiculous relic of slavery. It's embarrassing that it still exists.

     
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    WOW LOOK AT THE PFA LIBTARD MAFIA SPIN COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTROL



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    Tyde: DO YOU EVEN HAVE A JOB ?
    I do, but it's Saturday.

    You on the other hand, do not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hongkonger View Post
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    Tyde: DO YOU EVEN HAVE A JOB ?
    I do, but it's Saturday.

    You on the other hand, do not.
    He cooks for other grown men for a living and brags about it like it's cool or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big dick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hongkonger View Post

    I do, but it's Saturday.

    You on the other hand, do not.
    He cooks for other grown men for a living and brags about it like it's cool or something.


    lol must be so tilted

    actually no retard, I'm not a 'cook' I run the entire department

    I don't think you fully understand what my job description entails

    sweet jab though

    Ill go back to being on vacation not giving a fuck now

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Hordell View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by vegas1369 View Post

    Marty, again I don't know how many times I have to say it but I am not a liberal. I have voted Republican many times in the past. I was raised in a republican household and consider myself Republican most of my life.

    Trust me when I tell you you do not want to go down this road with me. I know you. I know how you think. I know how much you want to see a scorched-earth and Trump is your answer to that. You don't give a shit about anything other than yourself. You don't give a shit about all the harm this mother fucker is causing because you find it entertaining. You get off on people being upset by all of this. It's pathetic. We are all on the same team. We all want to see America be great. People like you on the other hand want to see people suffer, you want to see lives ruined through political corruption while ignoramus' stand beside and cheer it all on. I'm sure you'd like nothing more than to be sitting by your killer spot in Mexico while a nuke is dropping on California. You'd probably be sipping a margarita toasting it.
    No, we are not on the same team. Most hate elitist libtards who on the first day Trump was in office began attacking him. What you people don't like is Trump fights back.
    Fights back?...lol. I disapprove of him because he constantly lies but has about 35% of the population hypnotized into thinking he is their Cheeto Savior, has undermined our national security on a criminal level (just wait my friend, Mueller is coming), has appointed members to his cabinet not based on their merits and accomplishments but instead based on their wealth and agenda, has gone back on a lot of promises including medical marijuana, has incredibly stupid ideas and constantly acts like a child, constantly feels the need to be reassured he is liked and respected, brags about shit that doesnt matter to anyone but him... I could go on and on... The one thing that will never be on that list is "he fights back". Just fucking LOL at that garbage.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by hongkonger View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post

    I think it's hillarious that people who hang out on your side Of the isle on most issues are quick to point out the electoral college impact to the general election but won't actively discuss/acknowledge the impact of DNC superdelegates giving us the president we have today.
    It's appalling. But the DNC is a private organization and can choose their nominee however they want. Parties used to choose at their conventions, up through the 60s. Not that this was better but just to make the point.

    The EC is not private; it's part of the constitution and it happens to be a ridiculous relic of slavery. It's embarrassing that it still exists.
    I keep hearing this line that the two parties are private organizations and can do what they want.

    Technically, this is true, but the vast majority of Americans don't see it that way, and the average voter would be appalled if he knew that his vote in the primaries wasn't binding in any way.

    The GOP has this issue to a lesser degree. For example, there is no voting in the Republican primary in Colorado.

    However, the Democratic Party is far, far worse. The whole concept of superdelegates is a complete affront to the concept of democracy, essentially giving certain elite individuals the equivalent of hundreds of thousands of votes each (!!!)

    For a party which prides itself upon being the one "for the people" and "for the little guy", their Presidential primary with superdelegates demonstrates the exact opposite.

    Even without the superdelegates and without the DNC-assisted cheating on behalf of Hillary, Bernie wouldn't have won. There is a false narrative that Hillary "stole" the election from Bernie. As much as I hate Hillary, and as much as I'd like that to be true, it's simply not. Bernie failed to connect with minorities, and basically struggled big time outside of the young and/or rural demographic. That's why it was absolutely foolish to cheat Bernie, from a strategy perspective. It only had a downside (getting caught) with no upside (Hillary was going to beat him anyway.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hongkonger View Post

    It's appalling. But the DNC is a private organization and can choose their nominee however they want. Parties used to choose at their conventions, up through the 60s. Not that this was better but just to make the point.

    The EC is not private; it's part of the constitution and it happens to be a ridiculous relic of slavery. It's embarrassing that it still exists.
    I keep hearing this line that the two parties are private organizations and can do what they want.

    Technically, this is true, but the vast majority of Americans don't see it that way, and the average voter would be appalled if he knew that his vote in the primaries wasn't binding in any way.

    The GOP has this issue to a lesser degree. For example, there is no voting in the Republican primary in Colorado.

    However, the Democratic Party is far, far worse. The whole concept of superdelegates is a complete affront to the concept of democracy, essentially giving certain elite individuals the equivalent of hundreds of thousands of votes each (!!!)

    For a party which prides itself upon being the one "for the people" and "for the little guy", their Presidential primary with superdelegates demonstrates the exact opposite.

    Even without the superdelegates and without the DNC-assisted cheating on behalf of Hillary, Bernie wouldn't have won. There is a false narrative that Hillary "stole" the election from Bernie. As much as I hate Hillary, and as much as I'd like that to be true, it's simply not. Bernie failed to connect with minorities, and basically struggled big time outside of the young and/or rural demographic. That's why it was absolutely foolish to cheat Bernie, from a strategy perspective. It only had a downside (getting caught) with no upside (Hillary was going to beat him anyway.)


    you sound like every politician that America HATES

    blah blah blah just droning on with the same canned, regurgitated empty rhetoric

    Todd do yourself a favor and NEVER run for office

    you're not exactly a charismatic potential candidate even on a local level.

    let alone remotely coherent when it comes to being able to connect with homo sapiens

    nice blog though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyde View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    I keep hearing this line that the two parties are private organizations and can do what they want.

    Technically, this is true, but the vast majority of Americans don't see it that way, and the average voter would be appalled if he knew that his vote in the primaries wasn't binding in any way.

    The GOP has this issue to a lesser degree. For example, there is no voting in the Republican primary in Colorado.

    However, the Democratic Party is far, far worse. The whole concept of superdelegates is a complete affront to the concept of democracy, essentially giving certain elite individuals the equivalent of hundreds of thousands of votes each (!!!)

    For a party which prides itself upon being the one "for the people" and "for the little guy", their Presidential primary with superdelegates demonstrates the exact opposite.

    Even without the superdelegates and without the DNC-assisted cheating on behalf of Hillary, Bernie wouldn't have won. There is a false narrative that Hillary "stole" the election from Bernie. As much as I hate Hillary, and as much as I'd like that to be true, it's simply not. Bernie failed to connect with minorities, and basically struggled big time outside of the young and/or rural demographic. That's why it was absolutely foolish to cheat Bernie, from a strategy perspective. It only had a downside (getting caught) with no upside (Hillary was going to beat him anyway.)


    you sound like every politician that America HATES

    blah blah blah just droning on with the same canned, regurgitated empty rhetoric

    Todd do yourself a favor and NEVER run for office

    you're not exactly a charismatic potential candidate even on a local level.

    let alone remotely coherent when it comes to being able to connect with homo sapiens

    nice blog though
    You seem to have an allergy to people who calmly state their opinions and the rationale behind them. Your constant childish insults and meme posting is indistinguishable from white noise. How can you even function as a human being?
    HILLARY WON

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyde View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    I keep hearing this line that the two parties are private organizations and can do what they want.

    Technically, this is true, but the vast majority of Americans don't see it that way, and the average voter would be appalled if he knew that his vote in the primaries wasn't binding in any way.

    The GOP has this issue to a lesser degree. For example, there is no voting in the Republican primary in Colorado.

    However, the Democratic Party is far, far worse. The whole concept of superdelegates is a complete affront to the concept of democracy, essentially giving certain elite individuals the equivalent of hundreds of thousands of votes each (!!!)

    For a party which prides itself upon being the one "for the people" and "for the little guy", their Presidential primary with superdelegates demonstrates the exact opposite.

    Even without the superdelegates and without the DNC-assisted cheating on behalf of Hillary, Bernie wouldn't have won. There is a false narrative that Hillary "stole" the election from Bernie. As much as I hate Hillary, and as much as I'd like that to be true, it's simply not. Bernie failed to connect with minorities, and basically struggled big time outside of the young and/or rural demographic. That's why it was absolutely foolish to cheat Bernie, from a strategy perspective. It only had a downside (getting caught) with no upside (Hillary was going to beat him anyway.)


    you sound like every politician that America HATES

    blah blah blah just droning on with the same canned, regurgitated empty rhetoric

    Todd do yourself a favor and NEVER run for office

    you're not exactly a charismatic potential candidate even on a local level.

    let alone remotely coherent when it comes to being able to connect with homo sapiens

    nice blog though
    You are too dumb to realize that I was bashing the Democratic Party for being corrupt and hypocritical -- something you've been unsuccessfully attempting to do for the past 1006 pages.

    You should be kissing my feet for making such a well-reasoned, coherent post which is essentially on the same "side" as you are.

    This thread needs more posts from rational conservatives and fewer from spastic, drunk retards.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    you sound like every politician that America HATES

    blah blah blah just droning on with the same canned, regurgitated empty rhetoric

    Todd do yourself a favor and NEVER run for office

    you're not exactly a charismatic potential candidate even on a local level.

    let alone remotely coherent when it comes to being able to connect with homo sapiens

    nice blog though
    You are too dumb to realize that I was bashing the Democratic Party for being corrupt and hypocritical -- something you've been unsuccessfully attempting to do for the past 1006 pages.

    You should be kissing my feet for making such a well-reasoned, coherent post which is essentially on the same "side" as you are.

    This thread needs more posts from rational conservatives and fewer from spastic, drunk retards.

    FALSE. u would let urself get run over by libtards like the current gop establishment congressmen

     
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    meanwhile in the world of reality and science

    "I think most mayors in America don't think we have to wait for president," whose beliefs on climate change are disconnected from science, Landrieu said.

    "There's near unanimity in this conference that climate change is real and that humans contribute to it.

    http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/b...158021319.html

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    300 mayors at conference in miami 6/23/17 to 6/25/17 agree to work together to achieve goals of Paris Climate Agreement.


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    macron and schwarzenegger make fun of cheeto jesus




    right in your angry, vindictive, possibly religiously poisoned , totalitarian seeking throwback face / make the planet great again

     
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    most dangerous man in US fat shames women / whats good for the goose / with an ass like that don't expect any black fags allowed in WH.

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    expect to see more of this


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