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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    quick reminder that trump is actually intellectually handicapped:
    At this point every lie is a freeroll for him.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    quick reminder that trump is actually intellectually handicapped:

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    I'm sure that Nancy Pelosi and other Democrats will welcome this caravan of more than 7,000 illegals coming soon to the American border.

    No big deal. At least 1 in 10 people in California are there illegally anyway.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TheXFactor View Post
    I'm sure that Nancy Pelosi and other Democrats will welcome this caravan of more than 7,000 illegals coming soon to the American border.

    No big deal. At least 1 in 10 people in California are there illegally anyway.



    These people are going to be very disappointed when they finally arrive. I'm sure some will be stupid enough to rush the border fence and get mowed down by an M-16 . Mexico should have stopped them at there border but they want to fuck us . Trump will not allow them in and Mexico will then have to feed them and house them. This has big case of hard ball written all over it.

    Trump will not falter in this spot. I don't see this ending well for either political party . Of course the Dems will play some games and try to give these people asylum .

    This is exactly like the Haitian Exodus when I was active duty coast guard. Difference being is we plucked them all out of the ocean before they got here . Took them to Guantanamo bay. They sat there for a week and then 99.9% of them where given a free ride back to Haiti.


    Economic refugees do not get asylum here.

    Start walking back people .

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    Quote Originally Posted by duped_samaritan View Post
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    quick reminder that trump is actually intellectually handicapped:
    At this point every lie is a freeroll for him.
    I'm surprised that Trump didn't use the opportunity when asked about when Congress would vote for those middle class tax cuts to blame the Democrats for taking the Congressional recess while the GOP was willing to stay to do so. It's the perfect kind of lie his numbskull supporters would believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gookieheimowitz View Post
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    I'm sure that Nancy Pelosi and other Democrats will welcome this caravan of more than 7,000 illegals coming soon to the American border.

    No big deal. At least 1 in 10 people in California are there illegally anyway.



    These people are going to be very disappointed when they finally arrive. I'm sure some will be stupid enough to rush the border fence and get mowed down by an M-16 . Mexico should have stopped them at there border but they want to fuck us . Trump will not allow them in and Mexico will then have to feed them and house them. This has big case of hard ball written all over it.

    Trump will not falter in this spot. I don't see this ending well for either political party . Of course the Dems will play some games and try to give these people asylum .

    This is exactly like the Haitian Exodus when I was active duty coast guard. Difference being is we plucked them all out of the ocean before they got here . Took them to Guantanamo bay. They sat there for a week and then 99.9% of them where given a free ride back to Haiti.


    Economic refugees do not get asylum here.

    Start walking back people .
    You live in AZ right? Why dont you step outside and look around. Wherever you live, there are probably thousands if not millions of illegal aliens all around you going about their lives as best they can. Same thing for most of the Southwest and So Cal. I am sure you are right most are going to be ultimately disappointed in the end, but if you are persistent enough it isn't hard to eventually sneak across the border and become an illegal immigrant here. I am sure this is what will ultimately happen to a large % of this caravan.

    All the stats about illegal immigration, and immigration in general, are just complete lies. Take whatever number you have and multiple it by 2 or 3. As long as you dont commit a felony it really isn't very hard at all to come here and stay illegally. Most of the talk to the contrary, coming from both the left and right, is just political posturing, and nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by verminaard View Post
    All the stats about illegal immigration, and immigration in general, are just complete lies.
    How do you know this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by duped_samaritan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by verminaard View Post
    All the stats about illegal immigration, and immigration in general, are just complete lies.
    How do you know this?
    I live in the world with my eyes open and am not blinded by ideology.

    I am not even saying it is good or bad. Maybe that is just the destiny of the United States to turn into a 3rd world Latin American/African country with a massive underclass and a small number of elites living on hills in gated communities. This is basically what Los Angeles is already turning into.

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    Quote Originally Posted by verminaard View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by duped_samaritan View Post

    How do you know this?
    I live in the world with my eyes open and am not blinded by ideology.

    I am not even saying it is good or bad. Maybe that is just the destiny of the United States to turn into a 3rd world Latin American/African country with a massive underclass and a small number of elites living on hills in gated communities. This is basically what Los Angeles is already turning into.
    I'm not saying you're wrong. Maybe you're right. Just seems like "I live in the world with my eyes open" isn't a very good reason to conclude "All the stats about illegal immigration, and immigration in general, are just complete lies." Might as well just say "I just know"

    Mulva and thesparten use similar argument when asked how they know online poker is rigged.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by verminaard View Post
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    These people are going to be very disappointed when they finally arrive. I'm sure some will be stupid enough to rush the border fence and get mowed down by an M-16 . Mexico should have stopped them at there border but they want to fuck us . Trump will not allow them in and Mexico will then have to feed them and house them. This has big case of hard ball written all over it.

    Trump will not falter in this spot. I don't see this ending well for either political party . Of course the Dems will play some games and try to give these people asylum .

    This is exactly like the Haitian Exodus when I was active duty coast guard. Difference being is we plucked them all out of the ocean before they got here . Took them to Guantanamo bay. They sat there for a week and then 99.9% of them where given a free ride back to Haiti.


    Economic refugees do not get asylum here.

    Start walking back people .
    You live in AZ right? Why dont you step outside and look around. Wherever you live, there are probably thousands if not millions of illegal aliens all around you going about their lives as best they can. Same thing for most of the Southwest and So Cal. I am sure you are right most are going to be ultimately disappointed in the end, but if you are persistent enough it isn't hard to eventually sneak across the border and become an illegal immigrant here. I am sure this is what will ultimately happen to a large % of this caravan.

    All the stats about illegal immigration, and immigration in general, are just complete lies. Take whatever number you have and multiple it by 2 or 3. As long as you dont commit a felony it really isn't very hard at all to come here and stay illegally. Most of the talk to the contrary, coming from both the left and right, is just political posturing, and nonsense.

    I agree with you that plenty of law abiding illegals are living here undetected. This type of mass attempt to breach our border is a show of force per say and it will fail miserably. Yes I also agree some will get into the country over time . I'm not sure what these people are ultimately thinking trying to challenge Trump in a way that he will get forced to use our military to stop.

    This smells of liberal funded non sense and the closer it gets to election day and these people arrive the worse it's going to get . Nothing would surprise me at this point.

    One thing is 100% certain . None of these people will get in as presented in some sort of rush the border plan. Trump will use force against them. Maybe not deadly but I don't think these people want to play a game of chicken with our president

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    are we going to just continue to ignore that these people are fleeing political violence and instability our country is the principle cause of?

    yes?

    ok, cool, just making sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    are we going to just continue to ignore that these people are fleeing political violence and instability our country is the principle cause of?

    yes?

    ok, cool, just making sure.

    These people are fleeing economic poverty . That does not qualify them for citizenship. The only way they qualify is if they can prove they will likely be killed by there government if they return.

    There is a huge difference in that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gookieheimowitz View Post
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    are we going to just continue to ignore that these people are fleeing political violence and instability our country is the principle cause of?

    yes?

    ok, cool, just making sure.

    These people are fleeing economic poverty . That does not qualify them for citizenship. The only way they qualify is if they can prove they will likely be killed by there government if they return.

    There is a huge difference in that.
    this should help


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gookieheimowitz View Post
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    are we going to just continue to ignore that these people are fleeing political violence and instability our country is the principle cause of?

    yes?

    ok, cool, just making sure.

    These people are fleeing economic poverty . That does not qualify them for citizenship. The only way they qualify is if they can prove they will likely be killed by there government if they return.

    There is a huge difference in that.
    It is a problem that there is a finite amount of resources in the world, and the top 1% control a lot of it and they aren't giving it up anytime soon.

    So the rest of us are forced to decide how to split the rest. So the two basic strategies are just to have open borders everywhere and its game on and we will all end up equally poor; or the current system of the "haves and have nots" where the non-elites in some places have more than others. As someone who was born into a "have" situation I pragmatically would like to keep it that way, but I understand where the other side is coming from too.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by duped_samaritan View Post
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    These people are fleeing economic poverty . That does not qualify them for citizenship. The only way they qualify is if they can prove they will likely be killed by there government if they return.

    There is a huge difference in that.
    this should help



    I have zero problem with this approach. We will not be bullied into taking economic refugees. As far as cutting off aid. I'll just say there are many poor and homeless people living here that could benefit from the added funds to our food banks

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    Quote Originally Posted by verminaard View Post
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    These people are fleeing economic poverty . That does not qualify them for citizenship. The only way they qualify is if they can prove they will likely be killed by there government if they return.

    There is a huge difference in that.
    It is a problem that there is a finite amount of resources in the world, and the top 1% control a lot of it and they aren't giving it up anytime soon.

    So the rest of us are forced to decide how to split the rest. So the two basic strategies are just to have open borders everywhere and its game on and we will all end up equally poor; or the current system of the "haves and have nots" where the non-elites in some places have more than others. As someone who was born into a "have" situation I pragmatically would like to keep it that way, but I understand where the other side is coming from too.

    The other side just can't force it's problems on the haves .

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    are we going to just continue to ignore that these people are fleeing political violence and instability our country is the principle cause of?

    yes?

    ok, cool, just making sure.
    85% of this herd are men between 18 -35 years old.

    Also, they are burning the American flag while holding up the Honduran one. They are also calling Trump the devil.

    They're travelling through many countries fleeing this supposed political violence to arrive at one they hate.


    Yeaahhh bro, completely organic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gookieheimowitz View Post
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    It is a problem that there is a finite amount of resources in the world, and the top 1% control a lot of it and they aren't giving it up anytime soon.

    So the rest of us are forced to decide how to split the rest. So the two basic strategies are just to have open borders everywhere and its game on and we will all end up equally poor; or the current system of the "haves and have nots" where the non-elites in some places have more than others. As someone who was born into a "have" situation I pragmatically would like to keep it that way, but I understand where the other side is coming from too.

    The other side just can't force it's problems on the haves .
    Well, when the elite are on their side they can. Our immigration isn't accidental. The elites are just fine with the current situation where the rest of us fight over the scraps with each other, instead of focusing on who is really pulling the strings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by verminaard View Post
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    The other side just can't force it's problems on the haves .
    Well, when the elite are on their side they can. Our immigration isn't accidental. The elites are just fine with the current situation where the rest of us fight over the scraps with each other, instead of focusing on who is really pulling the strings.

    Nobody cares. I'm not fighting over scraps. Acceptance is a good thing for the mind. Accept you have opportunities that you can make today. Accept you can't change other countries economic problems .

    Infact: Just recite the serenity prayer and deal with it.

    God. Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change . The courage to change the things I can and the WISDOM to know the difference.


    We all made our beds . I'm not willing to share . I worked for what I have and I'm not willing to give up any more percentage to Paco and Just. And Javier and Maria and Juanita . If they want to come here . Apply for citizenship like the law says . Wait there turn and if granted enjoy the American dream.

    On the flip side if they want to rush the border and roll the dice . Challenge accepted. I'm just waiting for the first news report of some militia man who takes out a line of poor woman and children .

    Don't think fo a second that it's not going to happen

     
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