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    We are only a few generations from our animal roots which are on display nightly.

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    We are only a few generations from our animal roots as displayed nightly now.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by OSA View Post

    I'm trying to myself. From what I understand the "air" is the basic right for black people to breathe and enjoy life unencumbered. Because of the I cant breathe movement, where a few black people have been treated heinously by police causing death, and the media has propagated this a systemic problem. We've had shortages of food, toilet paper, etc. Many people havent been sleeping well because of everything since their routine is disrupted. If you go a rung up, employment and health has also been affected by covid.

    These items and factors are what has led, according to them(with the failure to establish respect, sense of connection,self esteem), to vandalism, theft, looting, and robbery and have even been partially justified.

    Does that clear it up?
    I'm sorry, it does not clear it up for me. Can you direct me to an example in which someone has argued that Maslow's theory explains the behaviour you're talking about? If I could see an example of this argument it could help clear things up.

    Also, you mentioned earlier "12 black people or so that were killed by the police in the past 15 years" - I don't want to make assumptions here. What did you mean by that?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Shrink View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by OSA View Post

    I'm trying to myself. From what I understand the "air" is the basic right for black people to breathe and enjoy life unencumbered. Because of the I cant breathe movement, where a few black people have been treated heinously by police causing death, and the media has propagated this a systemic problem. We've had shortages of food, toilet paper, etc. Many people havent been sleeping well because of everything since their routine is disrupted. If you go a rung up, employment and health has also been affected by covid.

    These items and factors are what has led, according to them(with the failure to establish respect, sense of connection,self esteem), to vandalism, theft, looting, and robbery and have even been partially justified.

    Does that clear it up?
    I'm sorry, it does not clear it up for me. Can you direct me to an example in which someone has argued that Maslow's theory explains the behaviour you're talking about? If I could see an example of this argument it could help clear things up.

    Also, you mentioned earlier "12 black people or so that were killed by the police in the past 15 years" - I don't want to make assumptions here. What did you mean by that?

    I just have a short IG post to go on, which I cant find but thats the jist. If you cant connect the dots then Ill assume its BS.

    The 12 black people that protesters bring up as to the basis for their anger. Partial list is Sean Bell, Freddie Grey, Ahmed, Garner, Floyd etc.

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    Just wait until Trump imposes martial law and the shooting really starts.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
    We are only a few generations from our animal roots which are on display nightly.

    Love me some animal roots in the sack.
    Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OSA View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The Shrink View Post

    I'm sorry, it does not clear it up for me. Can you direct me to an example in which someone has argued that Maslow's theory explains the behaviour you're talking about? If I could see an example of this argument it could help clear things up.

    Also, you mentioned earlier "12 black people or so that were killed by the police in the past 15 years" - I don't want to make assumptions here. What did you mean by that?

    I just have a short IG post to go on, which I cant find but thats the jist. If you cant connect the dots then Ill assume its BS.

    The 12 black people that protesters bring up as to the basis for their anger. Partial list is Sean Bell, Freddie Grey, Ahmed, Garner, Floyd etc.
    Aaaah, I see. You mean approximately 12 prominent cases in which black people have been killed by police that have led to mass protests.

    As for the Maslow thing, as BetCheckBet noted, it's not a perfect theory. It's a very general theory of motivation. For example, it helps explain why a homeless person doesn't spend their days seeking meaningful relationships because they're busy trying to fulfill their lower-order basic needs of shelter and hunger. A well-off person who doesn't have many friends spends more time seeking companionship than working towards a promotion at work. That type of thing. Of course, there are many instances in which this theory doesn't hold up like the homeless person who develops relationships and work addicts who put their job ahead of relationships. Anyways, I would argue that the "I can't breathe" thing is more about safety needs than physiological needs. It's not a literal lack of air, it's a constant fear of physical danger. Maslow might argue that constantly feeling vulnerable does not allow people to fulfill the higher order needs of social connection, esteem, and ultimately, self-actualization. Perhaps the destructive behaviours would be construed as a side-effect of a lack of safety needs.

    Fun fact: Maslow married his cousin. He was also self-conscious about being very ugly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Shrink View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by OSA View Post


    I just have a short IG post to go on, which I cant find but thats the jist. If you cant connect the dots then Ill assume its BS.

    The 12 black people that protesters bring up as to the basis for their anger. Partial list is Sean Bell, Freddie Grey, Ahmed, Garner, Floyd etc.
    Aaaah, I see. You mean approximately 12 prominent cases in which black people have been killed by police that have led to mass protests.

    As for the Maslow thing, as BetCheckBet noted, it's not a perfect theory. It's a very general theory of motivation. For example, it helps explain why a homeless person doesn't spend their days seeking meaningful relationships because they're busy trying to fulfill their lower-order basic needs of shelter and hunger. A well-off person who doesn't have many friends spends more time seeking companionship than working towards a promotion at work. That type of thing. Of course, there are many instances in which this theory doesn't hold up like the homeless person who develops relationships and work addicts who put their job ahead of relationships. Anyways, I would argue that the "I can't breathe" thing is more about safety needs than physiological needs. It's not a literal lack of air, it's a constant fear of physical danger. Maslow might argue that constantly feeling vulnerable does not allow people to fulfill the higher order needs of social connection, esteem, and ultimately, self-actualization. Perhaps the destructive behaviours would be construed as a side-effect of a lack of safety needs.

    Fun fact: Maslow married his cousin. He was also self-conscious about being very ugly.

    Yea it seems that this is what they were eluding towards. Interesting topic.

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    look at this phony asshole and his cunt gold digging wife


    so funny


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Shrink View Post
    https://twitter.com/Annakhait/status/1267629956584087554

    LOL if you believe Trump has ever cracked the spine of a Bible.
    Can anyone explain the purpose of that picture?

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    Quote Originally Posted by splitthis View Post
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    We are only a few generations from our animal roots which are on display nightly.

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    How animal do you like them?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
    We are only a few generations from our animal roots which are on display nightly.
    RACIST ASSHOLE

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    Quote Originally Posted by big dick View Post
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    We are only a few generations from our animal roots which are on display nightly.
    RACIST ASSHOLE
    You aren’t even bright enough to come back with an original insult. You just deflect. How embarrassing for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The Shrink View Post
    https://twitter.com/Annakhait/status/1267629956584087554

    LOL if you believe Trump has ever cracked the spine of a Bible.
    Can anyone explain the purpose of that picture?
    The reports were he was incredibly pissed off that word he had retreated to bunker leaked out, and he wanted to make a statement about being unafraid. That’s idiotic on both points as the secret service tells the president when to go to the bunker and any photo of the president in public is surrounded by agents who have made it incredibly safe, so I don’t get it, but it’s Trump.

    I would never think a president weak for listening to the guys who are experts at protecting you or think a picture in public is some act of bravery when you have an army of secret service to protect you. I don’t think most would even think much about it.

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    Also punch line per NYT is was literally all Ivanka's idea, and Esper had no fucking idea it was going to happen until it happened.


    Esper literally went on the record to say it. He thought they were going to view a vandalized bathroom and speak to the troops and suddenly Trump was gassing people at a church.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post

    Can anyone explain the purpose of that picture?
    The reports were he was incredibly pissed off that word he had retreated to bunker leaked out, and he wanted to make a statement about being unafraid. That’s idiotic on both points as the secret service tells the president when to go to the bunker and any photo of the president in public is surrounded by agents who have made it incredibly safe, so I don’t get it, but it’s Trump.

    I would never think a president weak for listening to the guys who are experts at protecting you or think a picture in public is some act of bravery when you have an army of secret service to protect you. I don’t think most would even think much about it.

    It was 100% in relation to the whole “Trump in a Bunker” trending. No other reason for it.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
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    RACIST ASSHOLE
    You aren’t even bright enough to come back with an original insult. You just deflect. How embarrassing for you.
    Bright enough to get you to take 2-1 on a bet that went off at 8-1.

    Then you double down and talk shit after getting insanely lucky. How embarrassing for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by big dick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post

    You aren’t even bright enough to come back with an original insult. You just deflect. How embarrassing for you.
    Bright enough to get you to take 2-1 on a bet that went off at 8-1.

    Then you double down and talk shit after getting insanely lucky. How embarrassing for you

    lol bragging about ways u lost a bet, not good material bud

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    stop proving how stupid you are dish.


    If you make a bet and get 2-1 and it goes off at 8-1 you got crushed regardless of results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big dick View Post
    stop proving how stupid you are dish.


    If you make a bet and get 2-1 and it goes off at 8-1 you got crushed regardless of results.


    u lost the bet, theres no way u can get to 51% winner of the argument BAD MATERIAL BUD

     
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