Thread: Time to get on the TRUMP train

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post
    Also - love the "outrage" over the choice of words. And I get this is the President of the USA we are talking about here and he/she shouldn't say shit like that. But if we are being entirely honest here if you were on family fued 4 days ago and Steve Harvey asked the question "Choose one word that describes Hati" what's the #1 answer?

    I dare you to tell me Shithole isn't in your top 5.

    Just be honest.
    You're not wrong but the president shouldn't be saying things like that. It makes his job and America's job 100x harder.

    It also conveniently ignores the history of the US meddling in Haiti more than any other country over the last couple of centuries. Occupations, installing strongmen, toppling those same strongmen and installing new ones, on and on and on. I'm sure Trump doesn't know that history nor does the average American, which is part of the reason Trump can get away with so much.

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    trump is a complete buffoon and his wording is literally that of a retarded person, but in fairness i think a means-based immigration system where we primarily let in wealthy people doesn't sound like a horrible idea.

    obv i'm not an economist and don't really know the impact of letting in primarily poor people, but it's hard for me to believe that's a net positive on the poor/unemployed people in this country already
    Another issue where the truth is in the middle.

    100% not a net positive for US poor people. But even the poorest people who were brought up in the US aren't going to do the ass wipeing some of these Haitian Women do at these elder care centers. You want to come here and wipe some ass so that your kid has a better lot in life you should have a path to citizenship, and you get in line to do so. You want to come here from a shithole country and go to local yard sales to scrap up bullshit to resale at the swap meet on Sunday while living 15 in a house built for 4.... fuck that.

    If you are even near top of your class from a doctor/Tech/Engineer school you go front of the line.
    You just roughly summarized the immigration policy of reasonable, moderate, pragmatic yet compassionate countries like Canada, Australia and NZ. They also let in some refugees. Overall they have determined it benefits their countries. Trump isn't down for that; he wants to make a dumb system even worse.

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    This isn't an argument for Haiti being a non-shithole.

    You don’t say that when you are president... you don’t fucking disrespect an entire country of people. He’s a fucking bully. They are obviously not a well off country, why kick them? This is the kind of guy that treats people who serve him like shit and those people are the nut low...

    Everytime I see someone treat a cabbie or a waitress like shit it tells me a lot about the person... what trump said speaks volumes of who he is.... a shitty person, and in this country we are not the shitty people he is making us out to be


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post

    Another issue where the truth is in the middle.

    100% not a net positive for US poor people. But even the poorest people who were brought up in the US aren't going to do the ass wipeing some of these Haitian Women do at these elder care centers. You want to come here and wipe some ass so that your kid has a better lot in life you should have a path to citizenship, and you get in line to do so. You want to come here from a shithole country and go to local yard sales to scrap up bullshit to resale at the swap meet on Sunday while living 15 in a house built for 4.... fuck that.

    If you are even near top of your class from a doctor/Tech/Engineer school you go front of the line.
    You just roughly summarized the immigration policy of reasonable, moderate, pragmatic yet compassionate countries like Canada, Australia and NZ. They also let in some refugees. Overall they have determined it benefits their countries. Trump isn't down for that; he wants to make a dumb system even worse.
    What are you proposing for a reasonable immigration policy? Do you think we let in too many immigrants? Not enough? Do we allow in too many refugees? Not enough? Are our naturalization procedures too strong? Not strong enough?

    I find it real weird how on this topic, everyone is so critical of the President (for obvious reasons), but no-one can articulate a better policy. Like I have said 100 times before, I have no fucking clue what the Democratic parties policy line on immigration even is.

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    Why hasn't Rex Tillerson resigned? A person with some personal integrity doesn't leave their wagon hitched to that of a "fucking moron".
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    Quote Originally Posted by hongkonger View Post

    You just roughly summarized the immigration policy of reasonable, moderate, pragmatic yet compassionate countries like Canada, Australia and NZ. They also let in some refugees. Overall they have determined it benefits their countries. Trump isn't down for that; he wants to make a dumb system even worse.
    What are you proposing for a reasonable immigration policy? Do you think we let in too many immigrants? Not enough? Do we allow in too many refugees? Not enough? Are our naturalization procedures too strong? Not strong enough?

    I find it real weird how on this topic, everyone is so critical of the President (for obvious reasons), but no-one can articulate a better policy. Like I have said 100 times before, I have no fucking clue what the Democratic parties policy line on immigration even is.
    I believe the US should adopt an immigration policy roughly like that of Canada, but with numbers proportional to the US population. Talented people who will obviously add to the economy should be especially encouraged to apply. People already in the US on work visas and people with family already in the US should also be encouraged as these groups are statistically likely to be net contributors and not become an additional burden on public resources.

    Undocumented people already in the US without serious criminal records or who were brought as children should not be deported.

    I honestly don't care if a wall is built or not, but (1) it will not solve the problem and has to be part of a more comprehensive strategy, and (2) the people at the top who just got a massive tax cut they don't need and don't deserve should have to pony up for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by verminaard View Post

    What are you proposing for a reasonable immigration policy? Do you think we let in too many immigrants? Not enough? Do we allow in too many refugees? Not enough? Are our naturalization procedures too strong? Not strong enough?

    I find it real weird how on this topic, everyone is so critical of the President (for obvious reasons), but no-one can articulate a better policy. Like I have said 100 times before, I have no fucking clue what the Democratic parties policy line on immigration even is.
    I believe the US should adopt an immigration policy roughly like that of Canada, but with numbers proportional to the US population. Talented people who will obviously add to the economy should be especially encouraged to apply. People already in the US on work visas and people with family already in the US should also be encouraged as these groups are statistically likely to be net contributors and not become an additional burden on public resources.

    Undocumented people already in the US without serious criminal records or who were brought as children should not be deported.

    I honestly don't care if a wall is built or not, but (1) it will not solve the problem and has to be part of a more comprehensive strategy, and (2) the people at the top who just got a massive tax cut they don't need and don't deserve should have to pony up for it.
    Well, I just did the math based on some numbers I looked up via google. According to these numbers to have a similar migration rate as Canada would require us to allow around 2 million new immigrants/year. So this would be a reasonable policy to you. Set a cap at 2 million/year and then decide how to proportion it according to need/merit?

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    Some real weird shit is going down with the Republican party in rural Iowa.

    That whole blame-the-media-at-least-hes-not-Hillary tap dance is officially no longer landing.

     
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    I'd still vote for trump over Voldemort (most stable of all genius').

    Yeah. I said his name. Suck it libtards.

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    https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-l...nce-1515787678


    are we not going to talk about trump paying off a porn star 130k like 2 weeks after he married his mailorder cunt bride?





    like if obama had done this, the white house would be reduced to smoking ashes to the foundation right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by devidee View Post
    Bring us your ass wipers!!!
    Your daddy made y'all watch this over the holidays I'm sure
    Nothing is more obvious today than the single inability of capital and private enterprise to take care of themselves unaided by the state; they are all the while besieging legislatures for relief from their own incompetency, and "pleading the baby act" through a trained body of lawyers and lobbyists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    are we not going to talk about trump paying off a porn star 130k like 2 weeks after he married his mailorder cunt bride?

    like if obama had done this, the white house would be nothing but reduced to smoking ashes to the foundation right now.
    Did one of the porn stars' friends try to blackmail Trump and he wouldn't pay?

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    The US State Department pays employees 35% extra to work in "certain" countries.

    A shithole premium if you will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devidee View Post
    The US State Department pays employees 35% extra to work in "certain" countries.

    A shithole premium if you will.
    And what jobs would they be?
    Keeping a record of the raped and pillaged.

    You suck horse balls and you're pretty fucking stupid

    You just have to get these inbreds to talk and eventually they give up
    their ignorance
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    Nothing is more obvious today than the single inability of capital and private enterprise to take care of themselves unaided by the state; they are all the while besieging legislatures for relief from their own incompetency, and "pleading the baby act" through a trained body of lawyers and lobbyists.

    Lester Frank Ward

    "When people see some things as good, other things become bad"
    Lao Tzu

    Asked if he had every prayedAnthony Hitchens replied
    "once, for a hardon"


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    Quote Originally Posted by limitles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post
    Also - love the "outrage" over the choice of words. And I get this is the President of the USA we are talking about here and he/she shouldn't say shit like that. But if we are being entirely honest here if you were on family fued 4 days ago and Steve Harvey asked the question "Choose one word that describes Hati" what's the #1 answer?

    I dare you to tell me Shithole isn't in your top 5.

    Just be honest.
    .

    Not in my top 5. And while I'm being honest your racism/xenophobia jumps off the page.
    Same goes for devisee, tellafriend, and the usual suspects in this thread
    Oh the outrage.... it's so outrageous

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    Tine I think you are brilliant and I just don’t get this.

    If we had Norway’s per capita oil revenue we would have lots more free things as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by limitles View Post
    .

    Not in my top 5. And while I'm being honest your racism/xenophobia jumps off the page.
    Same goes for devisee, tellafriend, and the usual suspects in this thread
    Oh the outrage.... it's so outrageous
    No, wrong once more......it's sad and pitiful
    Nothing is more obvious today than the single inability of capital and private enterprise to take care of themselves unaided by the state; they are all the while besieging legislatures for relief from their own incompetency, and "pleading the baby act" through a trained body of lawyers and lobbyists.

    Lester Frank Ward

    "When people see some things as good, other things become bad"
    Lao Tzu

    Asked if he had every prayedAnthony Hitchens replied
    "once, for a hardon"


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    Tine I think you are brilliant and I just don’t get this.

    If we had Norway’s per capita oil revenue we would have lots more free things as well.
    You don't get much. Drop the fuck off

    while we're at it.....I think you are one of the biggest idiots/asses on this forum
    no one else had said so but I've realized it for some time now
    Nothing is more obvious today than the single inability of capital and private enterprise to take care of themselves unaided by the state; they are all the while besieging legislatures for relief from their own incompetency, and "pleading the baby act" through a trained body of lawyers and lobbyists.

    Lester Frank Ward

    "When people see some things as good, other things become bad"
    Lao Tzu

    Asked if he had every prayedAnthony Hitchens replied
    "once, for a hardon"


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